Kofybean Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 What is something outside of looking pretty and having sex with her man can be described as a woman's job? For instance, if the trash is full, taking it out is a man's job. Sure a woman could do it, but if it is not done, if the grass isn't cut, car not washed, bills not paid, then it's really a fault of the man. She could say, "that's his job" and no one blink and eye. Woman work, make their money, but if she doesn't want to pay for groceries, or for dinner it is very much expected a man do it... no questions. Women don't think it is derogatory or sexist for a man to take out the trash or pay for dinner or have a job. Actually if she doesn't want to work, it is still up to men to have a job and not live with his parents. Cooking, cleaning, washing are all shared responsibilities. I know I do almost all of that myself outside of cooking and laundry and that's shared. But even then I pay for it all. And why not? It's a man's job to fund. So what task can be said to be a "woman's job" and no one think it's sexist or derogatory? Link to post Share on other sites
imfine Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Stand barefoot & pregnant in the kitchen while slaving over a hot stove, preparing the king of the castles favorite meal of course. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Stand barefoot & pregnant in the kitchen while slaving over a hot stove, preparing the king of the castles favorite meal of course. You are mentioning cooking and child bearing. I already mentioned that is sexist to claim it is a woman's job to cook and it really is a shared responsibility, but I didn't specifically say child bearing though it should be included under sex, which I did mention. The barefoot part is clearly sarcasm but the joke escapes me since it isn't a valid task. Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I smile sweetly and adoringly at my husband, in complete recognition of his manly superiority. He is so intelligent and powerful it makes me feel all girly inside. I feel so completely honoured that he deigns to spend his time with me. Of course I recognise that he is only with me until he finds a younger, prettier wife which I totally understand and accept. :love::love: 11 Link to post Share on other sites
imfine Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 The "looking pretty" comment warranted a little sarcasm. I carry out the trash, cut the grass, clean the gutters, home maintenance, clean, cook, all while looking pretty. A relationship is a partnership. Roles shouldn't be defined by gender. When you choose a high maintenance, fragile woman as a partner, that's what you get. You really shouldn't expect much more. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
InnocentMan Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Hoovering, and getting big spiders out the bath. Anything more taxing than this hurts their little brains. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 I smile sweetly and adoringly at my husband, in complete recognition of his manly superiority. He is so intelligent and powerful it makes me feel all girly inside. I feel so completely honoured that he deigns to spend his time with me. Of course I recognise that he is only with me until he finds a younger, prettier wife which I totally understand and accept. :love::love: Smiling is not a feminine task. Though I gotta say it's a close one. Maybe being happy or faking happy? Idk I don't recall any guy not smiling because it was his gf/wife's job to do it but it could happen. So put that as a maybe. Link to post Share on other sites
lollipopspot Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What is something outside of looking pretty and having sex with her man can be described as a woman's job? Can an unattractive woman have a relationship? 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpybutfun Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 imfine: You don't sound fine. What is going on with you...would you like to share the reason for your post? Grumps 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Can an unattractive woman have a relationship? Well of course, what I meant was the process of getting pretty or dolled up. Not the state of being pretty since that is subjective. Makeup, female specific products, I imagine if you venture to any hetero house and ask whose Mary Kay products that is, it should likely be the woman's. He could, if he wished, try on a bra or two but would you not agree that's a woman's job to wear a bra? Link to post Share on other sites
lollipopspot Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Well of course, what I meant was the process of getting pretty or dolled up. Not the state of being pretty since that is subjective. Makeup, female specific products, I imagine if you venture to any hetero house and ask whose Mary Kay products that is, it should likely be the woman's. He could, if he wished, try on a bra or two but would you not agree that's a woman's job to wear a bra? Not trying to give you a hard time, but I don't even agree that it's a woman's job to go through "the process of getting pretty or dolled up" with "make-up" and "female specific products." Lots of women don't wear make-up, heels, etc. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I make a point of just wearing a bra, panties and stockings whilst I iron my husband's shirts. Is that acceptable? 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Silly_Girl Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I make a point of just wearing a bra, panties and stockings whilst I iron my husband's shirts. Is that acceptable? Funny! That's what my husband wears when he cooks my dinners. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Funny! That's what my husband wears when he cooks my dinners. I hope you appreciate the effort he makes for you SG. I'm so jealous 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 The "looking pretty" comment warranted a little sarcasm. I carry out the trash, cut the grass, clean the gutters, home maintenance, clean, cook, all while looking pretty. A relationship is a partnership. Roles shouldn't be defined by gender. When you choose a high maintenance, fragile woman as a partner, that's what you get. You really shouldn't expect much more. The looking pretty was written incorrectly which I explained above. I don't see how barefoot is a proper play on words, if you said standing dolled up over a hot stove maybe. Anyway, I don't know what to say to you since you are arguing a different point. No where did I claim no woman does these things. If you do them, great, I can't argue a point I didn't make. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I forgot to include waxing her husband's back and putting bandaids on his knuckles after his hard day of dragging them on the ground. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Not trying to give you a hard time, but I don't even agree that it's a woman's job to go through "the process of getting pretty or dolled up" with "make-up" and "female specific products." Lots of women don't wear make-up, heels, etc. Lol so? I never say all women do that. I'm not going to argue with you if a billion dollar make up and lingerie industry is targeted to women, cuz it is. Tell a man to put on makeup and high heels before going out on a date and see what he says. Even still, if no woman wore makeup or heels, it still doesn't answer the question. What's a woman's job in a relationship? Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I forgot to include waxing her husband's back and putting bandaids on his knuckles after his hard day of dragging them on the ground. Oh no Hokey. I like my man all rough and hairy. It makes me feel so weak and submissive. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
imfine Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You missed my point. Relationships are partnerships. Roles shouldn't be defined by gender. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 You missed my point. Relationships are partnerships. Roles shouldn't be defined by gender. What do you mean by "should". Dating and relationships are heavily weighted with gender roles for men. "Should" is irrelevant to reality. I'm only asking what roles to women play. So far I'm seeing a lot of uncomfortable women posting in jest without a valid response. Link to post Share on other sites
lollipopspot Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Lol so? I never say all women do that. I'm not going to argue with you if a billion dollar make up and lingerie industry is targeted to women, cuz it is. Tell a man to put on makeup and high heels before going out on a date and see what he says. Even still, if no woman wore makeup or heels, it still doesn't answer the question. What's a woman's job in a relationship? I don't think "a woman" has a specific job in relationships, just due to gender. Else what's the "job" of either/both partners in a gay relationship? I would sooner say, "What qualities might one have and what things might one do (of either gender) to have a successful relationship?" 5 Link to post Share on other sites
anne1707 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What do you mean by "should". Dating and relationships are heavily weighted with gender roles for men. "Should" is irrelevant to reality. I'm only asking what roles to women play. So far I'm seeing a lot of uncomfortable women posting in jest without a valid response. I'm so sorry Kofy. You have picked up on my insecurities - how wise you are. Tell us little girlies what we should do for our men. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Kofybean Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 ... I would sooner say, "What qualities might one have and what things might one do (of either gender) to have a successful relationship?" That's a good question. Hate me for anything you want but not for trying to stay on topic. I'm getting a lot of generic "everyone should be equal" fluff. Makes me wonder just how out of touch the internet conversations are. Are we all really willing to say in no bar in no town has a guy had to approach a woman he liked because it was the man's job? These things don't happen? Implying gender roles don't exist is madness. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 You don't want to hear anyone else's opinions or facts because you have convinced yourself that your assumptions from your first post are facts that everyone must accept. Its like debating with a six year old. Do you really think people are going to take you seriously? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
imfine Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 "You don't sound fine. What is going on with you...would you like to share the reason for your post?" Grumpy, Just pointing out that it's silly to assign gender based roles. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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