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Gossip is surely something that happens between girlfriends, neighbours and co-workers, not those utilising a website such as this one for the purpose of furthering their understanding of the horrendous position they are/have been in?

 

Why can't you gossip about what is discussed on a forum? Do you think that people do not "link up" based on discussion forums? Do you think that people don't go to PMs or establish other forums to talk about other posters? Do you think that people don't start tracking other posters, talking about their situation, tracking them on different sites, and bad mouthing them? Taking it as far as trying to find out who they are in real life and going after them there?

 

Really? That sounds like gossiping and meddling to me. And things that ACTUALLY have/do happen.

 

Let's not be naive, what happens in real life easily translates and happens on forums.

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You can't gossip and meddle on an internet discussion board....:laugh:

 

Well I suppose you can gossip about people not here, which in some ways we all do, but generally everyone knows they come here to talk about stuff and everyone willingly puts their business and other people's business on here anonymously so it doesn't count as gossiping and "meddling"

 

But who likes to gossip about 3rd parties who don't even know them more than APs telling us all and everything the BS they never met supposedly did and didn't do?? And some would also, for logical reasons, consider being in an A meddling. So potato, potahto indeed. :laugh:

 

Really? You don't see how this happens? You don't see where people will start focusing on posters and start trying to dig more into who they are and into real life? Really? You are completely unaware of this? :rolleyes:

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Why can't you gossip about what is discussed on a forum? Do you think that people do not "link up" based on discussion forums? Do you think that people don't go to PMs or establish other forums to talk about other posters? Do you think that people don't start tracking other posters, talking about their situation, tracking them on different sites, and bad mouthing them? Taking it as far as trying to find out who they are in real life and going after them there?

 

Really? That sounds like gossiping and meddling to me. And things that ACTUALLY have/do happen.

 

Let's not be naive, what happens in real life easily translates and happens on forums.

 

Frankly I can't believe people who are clearly members of said forums can even deny that gossip doesn't occur. Talk about hypocrites.

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Technically, you are not in an affair because you are not married. :)

 

But I get your sarcasm.

 

You will get grief for enabling someone else to break her vows while at the same time you pretend to be the friend of her husband.

 

Now THAT is cold in many people's eyes.

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This discussion is regarding indications of being a sociopath, not 'gossip about forum members'. I mean, really, how many members have to be suspended and banned to get the message across that this kind of non-conforming behavior is not welcomed here? Apparently, not enough.

 

Since this discussion isn't about a particular person and real life infidelity, it is moved to GRD.

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From the DSM-IV, regarding ASPD, commonly referred to as sociopathy:

 

A) There is a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:

 

Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest

 

Deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure

 

Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead

 

Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults

 

Reckless disregard for safety of self or others

 

Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations

 

Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

 

B) The individual is at least age 18 years.

C) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.

D) The occurrence of antisocial behavior is not exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or a manic episode.

 

Generally, a team of psychological professionals is essential to such diagnosis. Laypeople over the internet, not so much.

 

None of the above applies to any of the real life people I know who have participated in As.

 

I do know one person clinically diagnosed as a sociopath (while in prison) and AFAIK he has never had an A. Several Ds, many short term Rs, but no As that I know of.

 

So my personal,experience of those APs who are sociopaths is the empty set.

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That makes it sound like they have a mental health disorder and cant be held accountable for the actions which they absolutely should be!

 

Your values should be judged on your actions, hence actions that include choosing to and not feeling too bad about twisting a knife someones back clearly lack

  • integrity
  • loyalty
  • self control
  • honesty
  • courage
  • nobility
  • heart
  • guts
  • responsibility
  • selflessness
  • reliability
  • fairness
  • comradeship

To say that they had a personality disorder would be to ignore the character traits they lack.

 

There cowards, not sociopaths.

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Sociopathic tendencies include certain key traits like selfishness, superficial charm and a feeling of immense pride in themselves, to name a few.

 

Word of Caution: You may be tempted to relate these sociopath characteristics to your unreasonable friends, family and other acquaintances; however, only an expert can diagnose someone as a sociopath.

Characteristics of a Sociopath

 

Manipulating

Sociopaths believe that much can be achieved by conning and manipulating others. In that direction, they waste no time in convincing others about their malicious ideas. They do so by putting on their charm and using clever wordplay.

 

Incapacity for Feelings or Emotions

Sociopaths do not possess normal emotions or feelings. They only make a superficial exhibition of their emotions. Even though they laugh, cry, get angry and depressed momentarily, the underlying reason for this superficiality is that they live in their own world and have their own set of morals. They are often ruled by a belief that their actions bear no consequence whatsoever, and they are not accountable to anyone.

 

Compulsive Liars

Sociopaths have a boundless capacity to lie. It all begins when they lie to hide something and then continue lying to cover their web of lies. Since they are incapacitated to feelings and emotions, they do not understand the impact of compulsive lying. If they are caught lying, sociopaths are clever at changing the subject by blaming someone else and escaping the situation. In fact, most sociopaths are so clever at lying that they pass lie detector tests too. Which is why, criminals who are sociopaths rarely end up in prisons.

 

Shallow Emotions

A sociopath has shallow emotions. Shallow emotions refers to faking warmth, joy, appreciation and motivation towards others to satisfy one's ulterior motives.

 

Impulsive Nature

The logic of thinking twice before doing or saying something is missing in a sociopath. They get so overwhelmed by a certain idea that they react impulsively to it. These actions are always driven by a devious acumen such as cheating, stealing and lying. In fact, the excitement of carrying through the act is so great that they never think of the consequences or whether the act is wrong.

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They are the bet darned actors you ill ever meet.

 

Parasitic Living

A sociopath's parasitic nature is highly evident in everything that they do. They act like leeches who cling on to others for their own benefit. They find people who are closest to them and make them an accomplice in their actions.

 

Radiating Charm

Sociopaths have a highly charming personality and they know how to use it perfectly to cover up all their manipulative ways. They can be very amusing, carefree and lively when they want to be, and it is these traits that draws people to them.

 

Egocentric

Sociopaths indulge in bragging about themselves like there's no tomorrow. They firmly believe that what they are doing is absolutely right and there's no way they can do anything wrong. They are highly self-assured and this leads them to making highly preposterous and unrealistic plans about life, marriage, earning money and general living.

 

No Guilt or Remorse

Sociopaths feel no guilt whatsoever. They live in an amoral world of their own where they can never empathize with others and neither do they feel guilt for blaming others. They are known to be compulsive liars and they lie to an extent where room for guilt gets occupied by self-made reality. They often believe that the pain inflicted on the other person is deserved by them.

 

Dealing with a sociopath can be very difficult on several levels. First, it takes a considerable amount of time to recognize sociopathic tendencies in a person, by which time one has already had t

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