I-Love-Liberty Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Tom Leykis is a radio host that has a segment called Leykis 101 that supposedly teaches men how to get women for the minimum amount of effort, time and money. 1) Never date single mothers. Dating equals porking. 2) Never spend more than $40 on a date. 3) If she doesn't bang you by the third date, DTB 4) No spooning, cuddling, hugging, or staying over. 5) Never get involved with a co-worker. 6) Women like men who are *******s. 7) Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25 or really ready to settle down. 8) Never approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. 9) Don't let a woman know where you live or how much money you make until you are serious with her. 10) Don't ask a woman what she wants to do for a date. (ex: oh I don't know, what do you want to do?) I'm just wondering what do women actually think of a philosophy like this? Misogyny? Or some good, some bad?
ConstantVoyager Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 I think it's fantastic. It makes it really easy for me to avoid the idiots who listen to Leykis. 4
Shepp Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 1) Never date single mothers. Dating equals porking. Well I guess some dudes really shouldn't be role models o kids 3) If she doesn't bang you by the third date, DTB quitter 6) Women like men who are *******s. Pathetic 7) Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25 or really ready to settle down. Why the **** do u have to be 25? You can be totally ready to sette down at 17 and light years away from it at 35 8) Never approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. Wimp I'm just wondering what do women actually think of a philosophy like this? Dunno, but I'm a bloke and I think that these rules only work if you want quantity > quality!
theothersully Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Too complicated. Every woman is a different person. This can't work. Who is this clown who made these supposed laws of dating up?
jonnyxxx Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Tom Leykis is a radio host that has a segment called Leykis 101 that supposedly teaches men how to get women for the minimum amount of effort, time and money. 1) Never date single mothers. Dating equals porking. 2) Never spend more than $40 on a date. 3) If she doesn't bang you by the third date, DTB 4) No spooning, cuddling, hugging, or staying over. 5) Never get involved with a co-worker. 6) Women like men who are *******s. 7) Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25 or really ready to settle down. 8) Never approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. 9) Don't let a woman know where you live or how much money you make until you are serious with her. 10) Don't ask a woman what she wants to do for a date. (ex: oh I don't know, what do you want to do?) I'm just wondering what do women actually think of a philosophy like this? Misogyny? Or some good, some bad? Sounds good to me. I'm pretty inexperienced and not rich anyway, so more like common sense.
Assasda Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Only one I gree with is. 9. & 10. 9. Because you dont know the woman yet, and you dont want to brag or be rude. 10. Because you need to be assertive as a guy, and do what you want to do as a man
MissBee Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Tom Leykis is a radio host that has a segment called Leykis 101 that supposedly teaches men how to get women for the minimum amount of effort, time and money. 1) Never date single mothers. Dating equals porking. 2) Never spend more than $40 on a date. 3) If she doesn't bang you by the third date, DTB 4) No spooning, cuddling, hugging, or staying over. 5) Never get involved with a co-worker. 6) Women like men who are *******s. 7) Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25 or really ready to settle down. 8) Never approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. 9) Don't let a woman know where you live or how much money you make until you are serious with her. 10) Don't ask a woman what she wants to do for a date. (ex: oh I don't know, what do you want to do?) I'm just wondering what do women actually think of a philosophy like this? Misogyny? Or some good, some bad? I mean really though, what do you think women are going to think about this? Most of these are misogynistic indeed and just plain ridiculous. However I agree with #10. I hate when a man has no plan for a date. Ask me out to do something! If I absolutely abhor the idea I will suggest something else or let you know I'd prefer something else...but it's a turn off if a man asks me out but with NOWHERE in mind...I'm like wtf are you kidding me??!! I like decisive men who are direct and take initiative. I would also agree that probably most people shouldn't marry in terms of commitment until 25 and over, esp since that's supposedly when your brain finishes developing. And I would also generally agree that dating at work is probably not the greatest plan, although it doesn't necessarily have to be horrible either. But the rest of these rules are just wow...not even sure what to say about them. 2
joystickd Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Most of these are misogynistic indeed and just plain ridiculous. Do any of you women on LS actually know what misogyny means and can actually use it in the right context? It's seems anything relating to dating that is not woman centric is misogynistic. Both sides want what they want with minimal effort. Women want a emotional connection with minimal effort. Which is why they make men wait for sex. Men want physical connection with minimal effort. The thing both genders fail to realize is that these connection are ways to get the other connection. Men getting the physical connection makes them more open to the emotional side of things. Women the emotional connection makes them more open to the physical side of things. I know women you will say men want sex. Women you all want the emotional and sometimes will make men wait and then come out and want to be friends. You got him doing the emotional thing and feeling vulnerable and poof its over. It's just like getting a pump and dump. 2
lollipopspot Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 I wouldn't listen to anything Leykis has to say about relationships with women. Among other things, he's been married and divorced 4 times and has an assault charge for assaulting one wife. I have heard him before. He seems bitter and jaded and mean. Only certain types of women would be attracted to that guy...and I think people often find the kind of person to have a relationship with who confirms their view of the world. I don't think you want to take on Leykis' view of the world. 1
Author I-Love-Liberty Posted October 27, 2013 Author Posted October 27, 2013 I wouldn't listen to anything Leykis has to say about relationships with women. Among other things, he's been married and divorced 4 times and has an assault charge for assaulting one wife. I have heard him before. He seems bitter and jaded and mean. Only certain types of women would be attracted to that guy...and I think people often find the kind of person to have a relationship with who confirms their view of the world. I don't think you want to take on Leykis' view of the world. He does have people tell him the only women he gets is women that want him for his money, his response is that he's fine with it because he only wants them for sex. LOL. He seems like a smart guy and obviously successful, but I think he doesn't have any respect at all for women. His segment should be called how to be a player and only get shallow trashy women.
thefooloftheyear Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 He's an idiot(Ive heard the show when it was syndicated here) ...He's not entertaining in the least. His audience is likely a bunch of broke ass, bitter, fat and ugly losers that couldnt get laid in a whorehouse on dollar night...So they feed off this garbage... TFY
MissBee Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 Do any of you women on LS actually know what misogyny means and can actually use it in the right context? It's seems anything relating to dating that is not woman centric is misogynistic. Both sides want what they want with minimal effort. Women want a emotional connection with minimal effort. Which is why they make men wait for sex. Men want physical connection with minimal effort. The thing both genders fail to realize is that these connection are ways to get the other connection. Men getting the physical connection makes them more open to the emotional side of things. Women the emotional connection makes them more open to the physical side of things. I know women you will say men want sex. Women you all want the emotional and sometimes will make men wait and then come out and want to be friends. You got him doing the emotional thing and feeling vulnerable and poof its over. It's just like getting a pump and dump. As a matter of fact I do. I'm not sure about you though. In any case I'm not sure what this response has to do with those set of "rules" and the question of what women think of them.
MissBee Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 I wouldn't listen to anything Leykis has to say about relationships with women. Among other things, he's been married and divorced 4 times and has an assault charge for assaulting one wife. I have heard him before. He seems bitter and jaded and mean. Only certain types of women would be attracted to that guy...and I think people often find the kind of person to have a relationship with who confirms their view of the world. I don't think you want to take on Leykis' view of the world. I think the bold is very true. 1
CarrieT Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 2) Never spend more than $40 on a date. This is the hilarious one for me. In San Francisco that might be one cocktail and a taco. I am serious. 2
theothersully Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 This is the hilarious one for me. In San Francisco that might be one cocktail and a taco. I am serious. What?? Something wrong with 2 plates to share the taco and two straws for the drink? Might be romantic to almost kiss like those dogs who suck on the same piece of spaghetti in that Disney cartoon! lmfao Same in Manhattan.
crude Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 The stuff he says is kind of mild compared to the dating/relationship rules women have. Let him do ALL the work, from the asking and planning, to the paying, while you play it aloof because you're the prize. 1
joystickd Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 As a matter of fact I do. I'm not sure about you though. In any case I'm not sure what this response has to do with those set of "rules" and the question of what women think of them. You really don't this guy doesn't hate women. This guy more than likely has been burned so much he created the rules to protect himself. It's no different than what you women do to protect yourself from being hurt by men. It's just not women centric so in your eyes it's misogynistic. Most dictionaries define it as hatred of women. What man would want to be close to something they hate. 2
Taramere Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Tom Leykis is a radio host that has a segment called Leykis 101 that supposedly teaches men how to get women for the minimum amount of effort, time and money. 1) Never date single mothers. Dating equals porking. 2) Never spend more than $40 on a date. 3) If she doesn't bang you by the third date, DTB 4) No spooning, cuddling, hugging, or staying over. 5) Never get involved with a co-worker. 6) Women like men who are *******s. 7) Never be in a committed relationship UNTIL you are 25 or really ready to settle down. 8) Never approach a woman in a club who has her girlfriends with her. 9) Don't let a woman know where you live or how much money you make until you are serious with her. 10) Don't ask a woman what she wants to do for a date. (ex: oh I don't know, what do you want to do?) I'm just wondering what do women actually think of a philosophy like this? Misogyny? Or some good, some bad? To be unable or to wilfully refuse to demonstrate affection after the most intimate act between two people is an unfortunate flaw rather than a character strength - and I think most reasonably adjusted people would see it in those terms. It's a bit like somebody priding themselves on hating music or art. You know...."hey congratulations. Your life is a bit colourless and soulless. Well done!" I know physical affection is very difficult for some people, and I don't want to be too critical of that....but to actually aspire to being a less affectionate person seems a useless goal. You could call his views misogynistic, but really I just think he sounds like a broken person who probably has a variety of fairly antisocial, dysfunctional perspectives that would be to the detriment of his relationships with both men and women. No doubt he's making good money/some sort of a business out of being broken. A bit like an act in a freak show. If there are men who want to use him as their personal guru to help them down a path of increasingly dysfunctional interactions with the opposite sex, then that's up to them - but I think they'd have to be either extremely immature or already sorely dysfunctional and with no particular aim in life other than to become more so. As for the rest - well. Not getting involved with a co-worker is generally sound advice, but for people who spend a lot of time at work/meet most of their social circle through work-related stuff (or live in a small town) it might not be very realistic. Not spending more than $40 on a date...well, that might be sensible advice for the men who are taking this guy's advice seriously and following it. Generally I think a lot of it is about validating insecurity and fear. It would be scary for a man to approach a woman who is in a group of women - so telling men that it's wise to not do that is basically telling them exactly what they want to hear. It's always comforting to be told that the thing you're afraid of doing would be a foolish thing to do that would not pay off. Edited October 27, 2013 by Taramere 2
joystickd Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) You could call his views misogynistic, but really I just think he sounds like a broken person who probably has a variety of fairly antisocial, dysfunctional perspectives that would be to the detriment of his relationships with both men and women. I will refer one to a link about it Many women still have no idea what a true misogynist is - Los Angeles Men's Dating Advice | Examiner.com The word is used to loosely. Women have basically devalued the word in an attempt to negate anything that is male centric especially in the realm of dating. When one really looks at it any male that offers dating/relationship advice that is male centric to a lot of women is misogynistic. The thing is the advice is not for you it's for the man. Edited October 27, 2013 by joystickd
serial muse Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 I think the debate over the definition of misogynistic here is a red herring. Let's stop, because boring. What I'd say about Leykis' list is that it sounds opportunistic. This list has just been cobbled together from the statements of multiple PUA-type gurus; it's actually kind of ballsy to present it as some sort of revelatory "this is how you get women, fellas!". He knows perfectly well, I'm sure, that there's absolutely nothing original here. Just a big fat yawn, heard it before.
joystickd Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 I think the debate over the definition of misogynistic here is a red herring. Let's stop, because boring. What I'd say about Leykis' list is that it sounds opportunistic. This list has just been cobbled together from the statements of multiple PUA-type gurus; it's actually kind of ballsy to present it as some sort of revelatory "this is how you get women, fellas!". He knows perfectly well, I'm sure, that there's absolutely nothing original here. Just a big fat yawn, heard it before. Well women need to stop using it so loosely because something is not women centric.
TheGuard13 Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 If you're after sex, and minimal drama, this is a fanastic list. Since he says "dating equals porking" early on, I think that's pretty clearly the goal. It's going to appeal to a certain type of guy who wants a certain type of woman. 1
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