sickpuppy Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 It seems most women these days are looking for "real men" equaling a guy who is 6ft or taller, has a few tattoos, is juicing, and rides a bike even if he isn't the best looking. How does the above equal a "real man"? 6ft or taller = Looking up to "daddy". Juicing = strong "protector" type. Tattoo's = "badazz who get's a lot of women and possibly hasn't a care in the world about them". Bike = "dangerous". Strong standards are strong? No hate. Just real life observations. Yet these same women who trip over themselves to get these "real men" can't seem to stop "complaining" about them. Anyone else notice that? lol
c57dood Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 No. This is stupid. You need to get out more and meet more women. 4
MrCastle Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I'm none of those things and I do pretty well 6
Mascara Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 God yeah, sounds delicious. Without the steroids though. The rest is an ex of mine from long ago. Looked like the ultimate tough guy, but he was sooo sweet. Biggest softie you ever met. But then he moved away. Sigh.
MrCastle Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I'd like to think this isn't the ONLY type of man who's considered attractive anymore. Sure seems like it sometimes. Those men seem to always end up with the same kind of women. A very specific man fits the mold in the OP and a very specific group of women are into them. 2
Copelandsanity Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Most of the women around me would automatically label such a guy as low-class and a criminal. 1
almond Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 It seems most women these days are looking for "real men" equaling a guy who is 6ft or taller, has a few tattoos, is juicing, and rides a bike even if he isn't the best looking. lol. dafuq did i just read? If "most women" to you are the ones that chase guys like this, then you really need to get out more, and meet some different people. 1
Phoe Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Any man who is "juicing" is an automatic NO for me. I am not okay with that. And as far as 6 ft, tattoos, and bikes is concerned - Every boyfriend I've ever had was under 5'8, had no tattoos, and did not ride a bike. 1
madjac74 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 And as far as 6 ft, tattoos, and bikes is concerned - Every boyfriend I've ever had was under 5'8, had no tattoos, and did not ride a bike.[/QUOTe] And they are all ex boyfriends? hmmmmm
Phoe Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 And they are all ex boyfriends? hmmmmm yeah, they dumped me. *shrug*
Outsider77 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Where do people get these ideas? What kind of women do you think go for men like that? I sure don't. I like SMART men. Tattoos are ok. Bikes are okay, I guess. I certainly don't go for guys like that. 2
MrCastle Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 yeah, they dumped me. *shrug* They probably wanted to date a 6 ft tall muscular biker dude to see what the fuss was about. Don't feel bad about it. 2
Anela Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 What is juicing? I think "juicing," I think fruits and vegetables. If you're talking steroids, then I can honestly say that I would pass.
Shepp Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 How does the above equal a "real man"? It doesnt 6ft or taller = I'm 5"11 Juicing = strong "protector" type. = an idiot who isn't prepared to put time in to get results and is preared to cheat for a result. The only things I juice is oranges and apples cause I care about my body Tattoo's = "badazz who get's a lot of women and possibly hasn't a care in the world about them". I have 2, certainly doesn't mean I don't care about people. Bike = "dangerous". Pfftt, I ride a mountain bike! This is a friends quote so I can't take credit but they may have a bigger ride and a big engine but I have bigger balls! Anyway none of that makes a real man, I real man is someone who'll make tough decisions, protect his family, is And yeah I think being an alpha male is about being confident (which he displayed) but also about being strong, a leader, courageous, physically fit, determined, but also humble, good humoured, positive, fair, generous, chooses his words - not the loudest in the room, a hard worker, honest, holds good value and sticks to them. Not has a bit of ink and buys himself a bike. 4
MrCastle Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 It doesnt I'm 5"11 . = an idiot who isn't prepared to put time in to get results and is preared to cheat for a result. The only things I juice is oranges and apples cause I care about my body . I have 2, certainly doesn't mean I don't care about people. ". Pfftt, I ride a mountain bike! This is a friends quote so I can't take credit but they may have a bigger ride and a big engine but I have bigger balls! Anyway none of that makes a real man, I real man is someone who'll make tough decisions, protect his family, is And yeah I think being an alpha male is about being confident (which he displayed) but also about being strong, a leader, courageous, physically fit, determined, but also humble, good humoured, positive, fair, generous, chooses his words - not the loudest in the room, a hard worker, honest, holds good value and sticks to them. Not has a bit of ink and buys himself a bike. Perfectly written. It had to come from someone like you who nearly fits the mold being talked about because everyone else would just get slapped with a "bitter" or "jealous" label. Those new Guinness commercials that get me choked up always end with this phrase: "The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character." Masculinity is a character trait. Being masculine, being feminine, are traits that you either possess or you don't. You're either a born leader, confident, fearless, etc, or you're not. Simple as. Masculinity is not based on physical attributes. All women want a man. 4
Radu Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 OP, most of the females who would like that guy are girls, and not women. If they are women, stay very very far away ... the 'talking' you will have with them will involve drugs, alcohol and how long to heal that black eye she has. 2
Shepp Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 "The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character." Masculinity is a character trait. Being masculine, being feminine, are traits that you either possess or you don't. You're either a born leader, confident, fearless, etc, or you're not. Simple as. Masculinity is not based on physical attributes. I totally agree! I was trying to say this the other day but I don't think I was that successful. I like that quote, I think your character, your values have to be judged by your actions. I couldn't turn round and say that i'm a patient guy, just because I feel its a nice trait to posses, because my actions since I was about 5 years old have show that im impatient and little hot headed. It woud be like turning round and saying im 6"5, with dark hair and size 13 feet - when everyone can see that im not. I feel like when it comes to your character people band round traits they like as though because they like them they are them, but I do believe your born with your character, that the potentials already there and you can take it one way or the other but you can only work with what you've got. The other day I was talking to a elderly women, she called out the fire dept cause she saw smoke, turned out to be a false alarm but anyway I was there and she said to me "your so brave to do what you do" she said her late husband was a firefighter and she'd though her son might follow in that path. So I asked her what her son did...he worked in medical research. It wasnt that she didn't love her son very much, she clearly did but I stayed thinking about that because...I don't do my job to be brave, and I don't see that it makes me brave. I do it because its the one of the best things I can do with the character I was born with - I think im good under pressure, determined, trustworthy, thick skinned and I think that makes me a good firefighter - could I do what her son does, could I try and find a cure for cancer? Hell to the no! I couldn't do it, I could give a 100% I could try so hard and I still couldn't do it. Id still be me, I d still be trustworthy & good under pressure but id also be a hopeless wannabe, trying to be someone who he's not. I think being a "real man" is both pushing yourself to be the best that you can be whilst also being man enough to understand your own character, to understand what elements of it are strong, above-average if you like, and channelling that, using it to do the best thing that you can - in your work and for your family and just in your life. They say one of the best leadership qualities is good delegation and I think this is similar to that, you have to play to your strengths or your just fighting a losing battle. Bravery on the other hand I think, isn't about what job you do, or whether you ride a MX or a MTB, to me its defined by knowing a situation will scare the hell out of you and putting yourself in in anyway. Im claustrophobic, when I make decisions I ignore it and then when im in the situation I just push it to one side. I feel it, back when I was in firefighter training we had to go through this really small tunnel, you couldn't even turn it was that tight, of course that scares me, its hard to explain if your not claustrophobic but its like a tightness that grips you from like inside to out. But I had people relying on me - obviously it was a practice drill so not 10 orphan children in a fire in small tunnel, lol, but the two guys who were in there with me, who wanted good marks for the exercise - and I don't like letting people down so I dealt with it. But that's no more or less brave to me, than my sister who has struggles with math her whole life and now teaches maths to secondary school kids, putting her self in a position day in day out where she has to come to blows with the thing she struggles with most in front of a class of 15 year olds just so she can help other kids, who struggle with math, like she used to - that's brave. And I think theres also type of bravery in knowing when to hold your hands up, step down a let a better equipped man take over....something that I don't do very well, im competitive and a little bit stubborn and that is a type of bravery that I definitely struggle with. Ahh im rambling its just stuff that I think but don't really ever say. Basically I agree and theres SOOOO much more to your character and your integrity and the guy you are than tattoos and bike leathers. And even the other way round like where you say it has to come from a guy cause you almost fit the mold - You get judged either way, I think a lot of times people maybe make a first impression of me as a bit of a, I guess what they call in the states a jock. That was my own gf's first impression of me. I think either way people too quickly judge character on physical traits or on the superficial. you know? I might be captain of the football team but that doesn't automatically make you a "player" any more than it automatically makes you a "real man" .....I would never cheat on a girl in my life. Anyway. enough. or i'll write forever! 4
Grumpybutfun Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I totally agree! I was trying to say this the other day but I don't think I was that successful. I like that quote, I think your character, your values have to be judged by your actions. I couldn't turn round and say that i'm a patient guy, just because I feel its a nice trait to posses, because my actions since I was about 5 years old have show that im impatient and little hot headed. It woud be like turning round and saying im 6"5, with dark hair and size 13 feet - when everyone can see that im not. I feel like when it comes to your character people band round traits they like as though because they like them they are them, but I do believe your born with your character, that the potentials already there and you can take it one way or the other but you can only work with what you've got. The other day I was talking to a elderly women, she called out the fire dept cause she saw smoke, turned out to be a false alarm but anyway I was there and she said to me "your so brave to do what you do" she said her late husband was a firefighter and she'd though her son might follow in that path. So I asked her what her son did...he worked in medical research. It wasnt that she didn't love her son very much, she clearly did but I stayed thinking about that because...I don't do my job to be brave, and I don't see that it makes me brave. I do it because its the one of the best things I can do with the character I was born with - I think im good under pressure, determined, trustworthy, thick skinned and I think that makes me a good firefighter - could I do what her son does, could I try and find a cure for cancer? Hell to the no! I couldn't do it, I could give a 100% I could try so hard and I still couldn't do it. Id still be me, I d still be trustworthy & good under pressure but id also be a hopeless wannabe, trying to be someone who he's not. I think being a "real man" is both pushing yourself to be the best that you can be whilst also being man enough to understand your own character, to understand what elements of it are strong, above-average if you like, and channelling that, using it to do the best thing that you can - in your work and for your family and just in your life. They say one of the best leadership qualities is good delegation and I think this is similar to that, you have to play to your strengths or your just fighting a losing battle. Bravery on the other hand I think, isn't about what job you do, or whether you ride a MX or a MTB, to me its defined by knowing a situation will scare the hell out of you and putting yourself in in anyway. Im claustrophobic, when I make decisions I ignore it and then when im in the situation I just push it to one side. I feel it, back when I was in firefighter training we had to go through this really small tunnel, you couldn't even turn it was that tight, of course that scares me, its hard to explain if your not claustrophobic but its like a tightness that grips you from like inside to out. But I had people relying on me - obviously it was a practice drill so not 10 orphan children in a fire in small tunnel, lol, but the two guys who were in there with me, who wanted good marks for the exercise - and I don't like letting people down so I dealt with it. But that's no more or less brave to me, than my sister who has struggles with math her whole life and now teaches maths to secondary school kids, putting her self in a position day in day out where she has to come to blows with the thing she struggles with most in front of a class of 15 year olds just so she can help other kids, who struggle with math, like she used to - that's brave. And I think theres also type of bravery in knowing when to hold your hands up, step down a let a better equipped man take over....something that I don't do very well, im competitive and a little bit stubborn and that is a type of bravery that I definitely struggle with. Ahh im rambling its just stuff that I think but don't really ever say. Basically I agree and theres SOOOO much more to your character and your integrity and the guy you are than tattoos and bike leathers. And even the other way round like where you say it has to come from a guy cause you almost fit the mold - You get judged either way, I think a lot of times people maybe make a first impression of me as a bit of a, I guess what they call in the states a jock. That was my own gf's first impression of me. I think either way people too quickly judge character on physical traits or on the superficial. you know? I might be captain of the football team but that doesn't automatically make you a "player" any more than it automatically makes you a "real man" .....I would never cheat on a girl in my life. Anyway. enough. or i'll write forever! This is a refreshing response, and I agree with you 100%. I get completely flummoxed that the younger generation is somehow bitter misogynist posers by some of the shallow crap thrown around, then I read stuff by you and Castle and am completely proud of the character you guys show. Being a man is more than outward appearances, posing in gyms or putting notches in bedposts. Non-posingly, Grumps
Delilah1623 Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 My guess is it has more do to with you coming off bitter and judgemental than the lack of a bike and tattoos.
simsim Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I am 5'6 and head over heels for a guy who's 5'6. No tats, no roids, pretty normal looking, no six pack or anything. He is the REALEST MAN I've ever dated. Witty, sarcastic, the least awkward person I've ever hung around. Only been dating about a month...he's assertive when it counts but gives plenty of space. He's just so MAGNETIC and it makes me want to be around him all the time. No bad boy cred needed. Although he does drink and smoke pot...but so do I...haha, so it's a match made in heaven.
crederer Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 My friend is dating a tall guy with big muscles and is on steroids. She complains a lot about how he, at age 23 can't get an erection as the side effects of the roids. Also has terrible body acne as a result of the roids. Something to think about.
bentleychic Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 No. This is stupid. You need to get out more and meet more women. I agree. Generalizations like that are silly. I have tattoos and piercings. I can just imagine the generalizations about me, but I bet they're wrong! I DO find some men with tattoos attractive, but it's not a necessary thing. There are so many more important things to look for. LOL
TheGuard13 Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Did I wander into the South of the late 80's?
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