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For all those that think looks and status are everything

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I'm watching a show now called "the man with half a body". The man has legit a half of a body and has no "status" and has been married and divorced and is engaged again to a nice fairly attractive female. I bet it's his personality that got the girls.. Pretty much what everyone has been saying the entire time besides those who think the artificial crap is the only thing women value.

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There's so much wrong with this but that's ok. You can keep thinking that. Most women will not go for someone with half a body and nothing going for him. If you look like that physically, than you better have a BIG personality to back it up. This guy already loses on the first appearances part.

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What does anything you said have to do with what I said? He didn't get a woman through physical appearance or status. That's a fact. So it is possible for men to get women even if they are unattractive and flat broke.

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What does anything you said have to do with what I said? He didn't get a woman through physical appearance or status. That's a fact. So it is possible for men to get women even if they are unattractive and flat broke.

 

Of course it is. Will they get "quality" women or will they just get women? Let's entertain the idea that you are talking about "quality" women here. It is highly unlikely that you will get a woman who is attractive and has options if you are unattractive and bone broke. That's just how it is.

 

I honestly don't know what you were trying to prove with this thread.

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Well if you don't have anything to add to the thread, don't post.

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I'm watching a show now called "the man with half a body". The man has legit a half of a body and has no "status" and has been married and divorced and is engaged again to a nice fairly attractive female.

 

Nice way of throwing rocks at people.

 

I've lived both sides of the issue myself.

 

When I was the atypical skinny nerd who didn't dress well I was considered hideous and untouchable by almost all the women I met. They would go to great lengths to avoid me at parties, work, pretty much everywhere I went. Literally would get an "UGH!!!!" look on their faces when they saw me and run away. I tried approaching, went on all sorts of dates...I was shy as a kid but worked past that as an adult. But none of that worked.

 

A few years back I got tired of that so I started working out. I put my body through all sorts of hell in order to get up to the sort of weight that women expect men to be these days, spent a ton on clothing, colognes, bought a motorcycle.

 

Guess what?

 

Women don't run away from me anymore. They smile when they look at me, girls of all ages make passes at me all the time, and I am in a relationship with a cute girl who takes great care of me.

 

Let's face it looks matter. Any girl who has lost weight and noticed a change in behavior from men will tell you that.

 

Personally I wished I had gone to the gym and did all this to myself years ago but like most of the frustrated guys on here I was either unwilling or afraid to make that jump.

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There's so much wrong with this but that's ok. You can keep thinking that. Most women will not go for someone with half a body and nothing going for him. If you look like that physically, than you better have a BIG personality to back it up. This guy already loses on the first appearances part.

 

I find this whole thread to be really insulting towards the poor guy in that documentary. He's just doing the best with what he's got and doesn't deserve to be the basis for some goofy person's argument on the internet.

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Will they get "quality" women

 

I would think the women were of the highest of quality... it doesn't get any better than that.. loving someone for who they are rather than what they have..

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IMO, a man with sacral agenesis is an exception which doesn't support a more global perception on looks and status. Kenny Easterday is profoundly physically disabled and has overcome his disability to lead a relatively normal life. That in and of itself is exceptional and attention gathering. Further, his 'looks', other than the fact that his lower torso/legs are missing, are quite average, and probably above average in some people's books. As a minor celebrity, his status sets him apart from average able-bodied males. His will and determination are part of that status, to be sure, but it is the totality of who he is, and the appearance he brings to the fore, which get him noticed. Both work together and depend on each other.

 

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I am not trying to insult the man that I am talking about and I'm sorry if it can be perceived like that. Was not my intention at all. I'm just tired of the argument that "looks and status" are everything.

 

Yes looks and status can play a role but even if someone is extremely attractive and rich it does not guarantee relationship success.

 

I believe the show does allude to a bigger theme and relates to men on this forum. If a man has qualities that are less than desireable they can still attract and keep a woman through their personalities. This is not an outlandish possibility here. It's not the outside material things that matter at the end of the day and many people have experienced THIS first hand. Some slight celebrity status for being on a documentary does not make him a celebrity and put him about average men.

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As an experiment, Google your own name and Google Kenny Easterday. Observe the results. As examples, amongst the top hits, he's listed in Wikipedia and on IMDB (internet movie database). Images abound. Myself, my dead mother probably would recognize me on the internet and that's about it. I'm an average able-bodied male who's been in the local public eye probably not much differently than other average able-bodied males. Kenny, he's recognized far and wide, nothing like a movie star, but a universe away from you or I. I remember him from years ago when he would get around on a skateboard, most markedly in a movie back in the 80's.

 

IMO, the basic premise refuting the general perception that looks and status are everything is valid and I generally agree with it. I also feel that Kenny isn't exactly a poster child for that premise refuting the general perception. You or I could probably make a better case in our own lives as average people, but of course we're 'nobody' since we're not known, and make poor examples to provide for wider reading. Interesting circle.

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What's the point in being with someone "famous" or well known when there are no perks from it? In the show I watched he was living in a dirt motel with no money. Women who go after status do it for the perks not just the mere "recognition". I can see that he is well known and I don't deny that but I don't think he's known in a way that would attract women per se. I'd more or less attribute his ability to attract girls to his personality. He may be put in situations that allow him to meet girls easier due to his handicap but he probably builds he attraction through his personality.

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I find this whole thread to be really insulting towards the poor guy in that documentary. He's just doing the best with what he's got and doesn't deserve to be the basis for some goofy person's argument on the internet.

 

Just because you live in Fantasyland doesn't mean that looks don't matter. How am I insulting the guy? He has half a body. Most women will simply not go for a guy like that. I am not afraid to say so. Just like I wouldn't want a woman who was handicapped in a wheelchair. You NEED a gigantic personality to compensate for such a physical deficit.

 

As for you calling me "goofy", why don't you take a hike and go **** yourself - thoroughly.

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What's the point in being with someone "famous" or well known when there are no perks from it? In the show I watched he was living in a dirt motel with no money. Women who go after status do it for the perks not just the mere "recognition". I can see that he is well known and I don't deny that but I don't think he's known in a way that would attract women per se. I'd more or less attribute his ability to attract girls to his personality. He may be put in situations that allow him to meet girls easier due to his handicap but he probably builds he attraction through his personality.

 

 

Look at that to see the effect celebrity/fame has on women.

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I'm watching a show now called "the man with half a body". The man has legit a half of a body and has no "status" and has been married and divorced and is engaged again to a nice fairly attractive female. I bet it's his personality that got the girls.. Pretty much what everyone has been saying the entire time besides those who think the artificial crap is the only thing women value.

 

I have been doing OLD for about 6 weeks now. I get a good mix of women who message me, who have not read my profile, only looked atr my pictures, and a mix who love my profile, and never comment on my photos.

 

I think women value both. And I think, like men, there are woman out there who value physical attraction more than other attractions.

 

Once I meet a woman, I can quickly tell where she is coming from.

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They assume you have an entire body whether they like you or not

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There's someone for everyone.

 

There are people whom I've looked at and wondered who would date them, because of things outside of looks even, yet many of them are in relationships, have kids, are married etc.

 

It is rare the person that absolutely NO ONE on all of planet earth wants to be with.

 

I think if you're looking to attract many people then appealing to many people matters; if not, and you're looking for one person or a good few who are genuinely into you, then you have nothing to worry about.

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Of course it is. Will they get "quality" women or will they just get women? Let's entertain the idea that you are talking about "quality" women here. It is highly unlikely that you will get a woman who is attractive and has options if you are unattractive and bone broke. That's just how it is.

 

I honestly don't know what you were trying to prove with this thread.

 

I think your definition of "quality" is lacking....quality for you is simply a woman who is attractive, based on what you just said. How is that quality???

 

It is so bizarre to me how people can be so into looks as though they've never seen an attractive person before and as though being attractive is so rare it is an actual quality smh. What if you get that 10? You're together, she gets ill, loses her hair, her features change etc? Then what?

 

Pompei, you're entitled to go after what you want, but I think most smart people learn quickly that looks aren't everything and surely not at all the determinant of quality. No one says date someone you're not attracted to...but what YOU are attracted to is what matters and not some "objective" scale. I don't know if every guy I dated was a 10, they were all attractive to me and to other people, but even if I was the only one who was attracted to them, that's all that matters. Looking good doesn't mean you are quality...it means you look good. You can look good and also be quality but simply being a physically attractive person is the least of what quality is.

 

One of my friends does pageants, she's actually been the representative for my home country in the Miss Universe pageant, and one thing she always talks about is that clearly at that level every woman is basically deemed gorgeous, so being gorgeous at that point is a dime a dozen and won't help you to win because so what, everyone else is pretty too....so you have to stand out in the other competitions they have. I have always thought of that in terms of looks and dating. Being attractive is nothing you can help or do a darn thing about....so how is that a quality??? It isn't. And after you're pretty then what next? It just seems incredibly narrow to talk about quality women and to stop at looks...it's like saying you're buying a quality car, where it is a Ferrari on the outside but under the hood it has some rusty engine from an old Kia inside or something, but you're so dazzled by the outside that you didn't think to check anything else smh :laugh:

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