Says she's ending it with me (3rd time this has happened in a month)

October 21, 2013

Removing someone from FB isn't petty. What if they cheated on you? What if they're a vindictive dumper? Dumpers usually don't care about the dumpee, until they're lonely. Remember they wanted you out if their life!

Removing from facebook is petty, I agree; a lot of people do it as a sort of "message" to the person they are removing -- but if after a certain point someone is not respecting you, then why would you want to keep them on your facebook? I just use facebook to keep in touch with high school friends, friends who aren't in my country anymore so I don't get to see them often, etc. The key word here is: FRIENDS. Someone who doesn't respect you is not a friend, and isn't worthy of being considered one at any point in the future either. That said, I never removed my ex, even after he broke up with me, and abused me so much and disrespected me. Barely 2 weeks into the break-up initiated by him, after I had offered the hand of friendship to him, he removed me from facebook without an explanation.. not a single text, email, call, etc., to explain why I was removed. At that point, that was my only way of communicating with him, because I didn't want his number or email on my phone/email account, etc. A month later, when I didn't contact him to ask him why he had removed me, he contacted me and offered an explanation for the break-up, etc., as well as for why he removed me from facebook. Apparently, it was too hard for him to keep me on there. LOL. Selfish *ssholes. Too hard for HIM?! I think he just saw that I was moving on, wasn't begging for him to come back,and generally being a doormat, had lost a lot of weight and was in pretty great shape, etc., and started regretting it or getting mad that I wasn't chasing after him / pining for him. He's a narcissist, so the world revolves around him and when MY world stopped revolving around him, he decided to discard me. Do I care? do I want him to be on my facebook again? No way. I don't even want him as a friend. I don't want "friends" who abuse me and disrespect me. Uh hello? That's not the definition of friendship. I probably should've ended up removing HIM in the first place, but oh well. It's not a game. The important thing is that he's no longer on there.

October 21, 2013

Definitely think she's emotionally unavailable, all the signs are there. She's hot, then cold, all the time. Sometimes won't hear from her for a week or few weeks at a time, then suddenly, she is all too pleased to see me. She can't stand me trying to make plans with her, or texting her throughout the week. I learned that the hard way, after having her call of seeing me a few times over now. She wants to be in control of how fast things are moving. And she backs off completely if I act too interested.

She never withholds sex though, each and every time I see her, we have such great sex, both agree it's really quite amazing! It's rare to get it so good with someone especially regular!

I've discussed with her our relationship before. I've heard answers from her ranging from "I just don't know" to "I wouldn't be seeing you at all if there wasn't potential for more"

I've said to her I get it now, she doesn't want a relationship with me. She said it's not that, she doesn't a relationship with anyone. She doesn't sleep around, and she really isn't looking for anyone, shes proven that. She wasn't going to get with anyone, then we met, had a really amazing night together, and have kept it up ever since. She keeps coming back to me even after it all seems over for good. The last time she ended things, it seemed final, deleted me on Facebook, said she'd break all ties. 5 days later she comes to where she knows I'll be and we're back to where we were before, where she wants it. Casual, and not too involved.

I'm not going to hope this turns into more. Although when there's mutual attraction and chemistry anything can happen, and she's obviously very comfortable with me. I'm just going to take it as it comes. If it only ever amounts to great sex and a friend then it'll still have been an experience worth having. The sex alone makes it worth it.

Edited October 21, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

This ones been bugging me for a while, just trying to figure out if it's just me or if she means what she says.

I met her two weeks after she finally ended a 3 and a half year relationship. She'd kicked him out back to his parents half a year before she actually ended it for good. She used to love him, but that love died when he changed into who he is now. I've heard her refer to him as "the bastard". She's a strong woman and I believe her when she says she's never going back with him.

We've been sleeping with each other for 3 months almost. This started as a one night stand, turned into friends with benefits, then for a while it did turn into a relationship. We were getting closer than ever, then she suddenly pulled away, and said she had to end the relationship, it took me by complete surprise. I thought it was over for good, but now we're back to friends with benefits. She has told me all along she's not ready for a relationship, which makes sense as her last one ended so recently. She tells me she wasn't going to get involved with anyone but then she met me and that someone like me doesn't come along very often.

We're back on with understanding now that this isn't a relationship. I think she is emotionally unavailable and scared of getting into another relationship in case she is hurt again, she is jaded against relationships I feel.

Last time I was with her, I said to her, I understand that you don't want a a relationship with me. She said it's not that. She said I don't want a relationship with anyone.

I know that sometimes when a woman says something like that, she could really mean she just doesn't want a relationship with you. But in this case, and considering the circumstances, I think she really means it. She doesn't sleep with anyone else, and the sex is just amazing, for both of us. She must want to see me or else she wouldn't keep seeing me. Does it seem this isn't a problem with me but more that she has a problem with the idea of getting too involved with anyone right now? I have asked her if she thinks this could ever be more, and she said if i knew there was no chance you wouldn't be here.

October 22, 2013

You are being needy, and the more you NEED answers and NEED for her to tell you that she wants to be in a relationship with you, the more she will NOT.

Dont be needy, dont try to put labels on things

October 22, 2013

You are being needy, and the more you NEED answers and NEED for her to tell you that she wants to be in a relationship with you, the more she will NOT.

Dont be needy, dont try to put labels on things

Yeah I was a bit needy before. She keeps giving me chances, so I'm assuming she likes me a lot. I wasn't needy with her at all the last time I saw her. I told her I get it now, she doesn't want a relationship, I can see you don't want this to go anywhere. Hope that wasn't the wrong thing to say!

She had a little to drink that night. She revealed to me that she thinks I am absolutely gorgeous and could have any woman I want. I told her that I do have women chasing me and yet I've been chasing you a bit! She said that's just wrong. I said no because they are really not good for me. (have kids or involved with ex boyfriends)

I gave her a really great night, and morning, and got myself out fairly early rather than lingered about. She said now this has happened, I've confused you and you're going to start texting me again aren't you. I said no, no texts. So hopefully things will be alright now. I'm pretty sure she said she'd text me later in the week but I can't remember.

She actually said to me "I wish you could be more like "wham, bam, thank you maam". I didn't ask what she meant. I'm assuming she means she wants sex from me without the attachment. Which would make sense if she doesn't want a relationship.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

sex screws up some females emotions.....for sure...blurred lines mixed feelings.......you feel the physical desire then you start to question is it just that that you feel....and is that what you are basing a future on ...just the sex.....adn if it is just that ...no chance of survival.......gives credence for some to no sex before marriage...makes sense to me.......

lol.....

sorry this is random but ill add this ...my grand daughter just retched when a girl on tv had to kiss an octopus.....ahem ...sorry it was funny......no one likes to kiss an octopus.....octopi...cling.....people shouldnt.......give her space let her know you are interested but you will leave it to her to decide .....when to contact you when she is ready....stand up for what you want....skip the needing answers octopi thing..........too fishy...especially when the otcopus is alive...retching myself....i wish you the best know what you want from soemone and go after that......dont ask for approval for where you want to be or what you want out of life and love.........it is what you want and if the other person doesnt want what you want...they are not right for you.....deb

October 22, 2013

As for why I'm posting this. There's just some things she has said to me that make me think she really does like me a lot but there's a hidden relationship issue she has.

For example, she has told me previously. I didn't even have to say anything, and she came right out with "I wish we'd met a year later when I'm ready for a relationship, I would have one with you". She was obviously thinking to herself about it.

Just last week she told me that she never takes men back to her place, and she isn't looking for anyone. "Yet here you are in my bed again" she said. I don't know what to make of that, other than she must really like me a lot? Is she trying to tell there's something more going on in an indirect way? That's her way of telling me she's still only sleeping with me.

I've learned not to text her unless she texts first, and never to try to make plans with her. She doesn't like it, she likes to be in control of how things are moving. Any attempt to try to move things faster than she wants, usually results in a text back telling me it's over and she can't see me any more. So far that has happened about 4 times then she gives me another try. We have intimate and great sex, really, the best I've ever had and I'm 29 years old. I don't want to lose that. I think she feels the same way, clearly she is at complete ease with me. But if it ever starts to look like a relationship, she won't see me for a while.

I'm just trying to figure out if this is really what she says it is, that she just doesn't want a relationship with anyone. She is quite a bit older than me and none of her relationships ended well. The men who were lovely at first tended to go off her and become useless guys who sat at home all day, to be supported by her. She is the one who ended those relationships. I think maybe every time she gets those kind of feelings for me, she is reminded of her past relationships and how they turned out.

She did say to me "Are you sure you don't just like me because you want what you can't have?" Which makes me wonder if she's making herself unavailable to me on purpose to keep me interested. She has a lifetime of failed relationships where the guys just lost all motivation and interest in her. She is giving me signs that she really does like me a lot yet making herself not too available to me. I do wonder if she knows exactly what she's doing. It could be, because she has had me chasing her, and when I've stopped chasing, she comes back to me.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

isn't she a just female version of "guys who have FWBs"? shouldn't you know better since you are a guy yourself? how would you feel towards your usual FWBs? Would you make them your gfs? im sure you like having sex with them but you dont want anything serious with them and you tell them "i like you but i just dont want a relationship."

October 22, 2013

isn't she a just female version of "guys who have FWBs"? shouldn't you know better since you are a guy yourself? how would you feel towards your usual FWBs? Would you make them your gfs? im sure you like having sex with them but you dont want anything serious with them and you tell them "i like you but i just dont want a relationship."

She told me she doesn't do casual sex. She told me she's only sleeping with me and that's still the way it is now. We dabbled into turning this into a relationship and suddenly she pulled away, said I was being too intense and she felt pressured. Didn't talk to her for a while after that but she came back to me again.

I'll just accept it for what I think it is. She likes me a lot, she wouldn't be sleeping with me if she wasn't attracted to me and comfortable with me. She doesn't want a relationship with anyone. So we're just to keep it casual I guess. If I try to get closer to her, make arrangements, we go ten steps back, so I'm letting her control the pace. If all this ever amounts to is sex, I can handle that.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

A few months ago my relationship ended after 3 years. I know where she is coming from. The thought of getting hurt again makes me not want any relationship. And It's not just that. It's really hard when a relationship ends. It's never good. You think you know someone and then they hurt you badly and do and say things that are hurtful and you realize you didn't know them at all. It's really scary to think of getting into another relationship. Sounds like the way she's feeling is pretty normal. I'd believe what she's saying about not wanting another relationship.

October 22, 2013

I dont know why she says she doesnt do casual sex while she is having casual sex with you. You are just an exclusive FWB, assuming she isnt lying about only sleeping with you.

.If you can handle it why are you posting things here?

If you want something serious I suggest you find someone else instead of waiting for her. I have been there and he wasted a year of mine. And he liked me a lot too and always came back too. Now I learnt my lesson and will not wait for anyone in the future.

October 22, 2013

Dude, the age difference is too much for anything serious.

Think about it when she is in her 60's and you in your 40's....

this is true she would be thinking this......i would also think she isnt so worried about you getting hurt but her being hurt is more probable you are young you will love someone again.....its funny i wrote this verse for a poem i am working on just today....here is the first part of probably a wistful epic i want to write...which i wont finish because i will never be happy with it ...seems fitting that i put it here for you........

winter should never be with spring,

for naught winter offers to what spring doth sing,

winters barren but hopeful gaze

doth fade into springs gentle new life haze,(babies is the meaning here)

as winter runs its course and time is due,

spring begins with fresh anew..........deborah

Edited October 22, 2013 by todreaminblue

October 22, 2013

just like to add: I suggest you end it before feelings get deep. I wish I ended mine sooner and I wouldn't be so hurt by now.It was so much easier when I first broke up with him. Next time I definitely won't try to work things out with a FWB anymore. It's just not worth it.

October 22, 2013

A few months ago my relationship ended after 3 years. I know where she is coming from. The thought of getting hurt again makes me not want any relationship. And It's not just that. It's really hard when a relationship ends. It's never good. You think you know someone and then they hurt you badly and do and say things that are hurtful and you realize you didn't know them at all. It's really scary to think of getting into another relationship. Sounds like the way she's feeling is pretty normal. I'd believe what she's saying about not wanting another relationship.

Yeah that's exactly the way I think she is feeling. She is jaded towards relationships especially with the last one being quite fresh, in time, I'm sure she'll be ready to try again.

I think I should just go with my instincts and take it easy with her. Not realizing her situation, I've made her feel pressured and that's why she kept calling it off. For her to keep coming back, she must really like me.

I think any attempt to turn this into more will result in me losing her completely, as a friend, the sex, and all chance of more ever developing. Saying that, if nothing more ever comes of it, and it comes to an end, yeah it will suck but I can handle it. I've already thought it was over 4 times now, the last time seemed 100% final. Obviously I can handle it.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

I dont know why she says she doesnt do casual sex while she is having casual sex with you. You are just an exclusive FWB, assuming she isnt lying about only sleeping with you.
.If you can handle it why are you posting things here?
If you want something serious I suggest you find someone else instead of waiting for her. I have been there and he wasted a year of mine. And he liked me a lot too and always came back too. Now I learnt my lesson and will not wait for anyone in the future.

I've been single for two years. I only want something serious with the right person, and that is very hard to find. I'm content just having as a friends with benefits arrangement with her, the sex alone makes it worth it. Even if nothing more comes of it.

October 22, 2013

I've been single for two years. I only want something serious with the right person, and that is very hard to find. I'm content just having as a friends with benefits arrangement with her, the sex alone makes it worth it. Even if nothing more comes of it.

It is not whether you are fine with FWB or not. Sure you are fine with it. But FWB doesnt last at all. It will end. Are you fine with that?

You guys will break up. And you should do it sooner rather than later.

October 22, 2013

I do think no contact here is the best for all involved - you're being strung along by indecisiveness and of course it doesn't feel that way; you never feel like you're being strung along when you're being strung along and I'm sure she doesn't really see it this way either because she probably is a nice woman, mature and loving, so this isn't her intention but I've heard that rap before of 'wishing I'd med you a year (or anytime) later' or even years before but you didn't...

As far as your things go, either get them or don't. Have you been over there? Have you seen your things in plain sight? Maybe they're boxed away, maybe they are in plain view...regardless of which, questioning why she hasn't asked you to come get them isn't going to resolve this garbage dump of indifference. My ex hasn't given me back my stuff, despite requesting it on several occasions and even going there to pick it up. She has my Oxford Boxing clothes and other things that represent some of the best parts of me and best times of my life. I have no idea why she still has them and I've questioned her on many occasions about it but it is what it is. I hate to admit this, but it doesn't really matter the answer. They ended things and if they truly wanted them to work, they would have made it work.

I do believe there is some merit to this whole 'right timing' bit, but if someone wants to be with someone, they'll make it work regardless of timing. I've had girls willing to make things work while I lived in the UK and they in the states - terrible timing, terrible distance, but they and I made it work...

I feel your pain and if I knew how to truly let 'her' go, I'd tell you but I fight with it every day.

October 22, 2013

I do think no contact here is the best for all involved - you're being strung along by indecisiveness and of course it doesn't feel that way; you never feel like you're being strung along when you're being strung along and I'm sure she doesn't really see it this way either because she probably is a nice woman, mature and loving, so this isn't her intention but I've heard that rap before of 'wishing I'd med you a year (or anytime) later' or even years before but you didn't...

As far as your things go, either get them or don't. Have you been over there? Have you seen your things in plain sight? Maybe they're boxed away, maybe they are in plain view...regardless of which, questioning why she hasn't asked you to come get them isn't going to resolve this garbage dump of indifference. My ex hasn't given me back my stuff, despite requesting it on several occasions and even going there to pick it up. She has my Oxford Boxing clothes and other things that represent some of the best parts of me and best times of my life. I have no idea why she still has them and I've questioned her on many occasions about it but it is what it is. I hate to admit this, but it doesn't really matter the answer. They ended things and if they truly wanted them to work, they would have made it work.

I do believe there is some merit to this whole 'right timing' bit, but if someone wants to be with someone, they'll make it work regardless of timing. I've had girls willing to make things work while I lived in the UK and they in the states - terrible timing, terrible distance, but they and I made it work...

I feel your pain and if I knew how to truly let 'her' go, I'd tell you but I fight with it every day.

I see what you said but from my view is looks like she is finding ways to make it work. She doesn't want a relationship, with anyone, she never intended to get involved with anyone. Yet she is involving herself with me and even after I was really needy and made her feel pressured, she is still involving herself with me. There is something she likes about me, maybe it's just the sex and if even if that's all it is, I don't mind, because it's the best sex I've had. There is always a chance this could turn into something more, when there's mutual attraction and chemistry, anything is possible. I don't believe in burning your bridges.

October 22, 2013

It is not whether you are fine with FWB or not. Sure you are fine with it. But FWB doesnt last at all. It will end. Are you fine with that?
You guys will break up. And you should do it sooner rather than later.

We did break up, after entering a relationship of sorts. I got over it. That's why I was so shocked when she came back to me again. It was just a mix up. I thought she wanted more than she was letting on. Now that I'm clear on where we stand, there's no problem. We have a mutually beneficial arrangement and she said she won't prevent me from seeing other people because she doesn't want it to be a relationship and has no right to ask me for exclusivity. At the same time, she is only sleeping with me as she doesn't sleep with multiple people at once and isn't looking for anyone either. All I am saying about our arrangement is that I am open minded. I don't expect more from her, but am open to it if she initiates.

It's not like she's holding me back from meeting someone else. If anything she's helping me avoid settling for the wrong person out of desperation of taking too long to find someone who's right for me. Perfect example would be women who already have kids of their own, or are involved with their ex's who are chasing me. I feel less inclined to bother with those types who I know are dead ends as far as a relationship is concerned when I have my friend with benefits to keep me going.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

I see what you said but from my view is looks like she is finding ways to make it work. She doesn't want a relationship, with anyone, she never intended to get involved with anyone. Yet she is involving herself with me and even after I was really needy and made her feel pressured, she is still involving herself with me. There is something she likes about me, maybe it's just the sex and if even if that's all it is, I don't mind, because it's the best sex I've had. There is always a chance this could turn into something more, when there's mutual attraction and chemistry, anything is possible. I don't believe in burning your bridges.

Protect yourself first and foremost. If you put your heart on the line while letting her use you...you will end up VERY hurt.

Also, "interest level" is a term invented by internet dating guru's and pickup artists, and doesn't have any basis in reality. The concept is being unavailable and a "challenge" to keep a woman anxious of losing you and constantly chasing. It's a poor foundation for mature relationships. The only piece of it that actually makes sense here is: Don't be at her beck and call. If you're there whenever she needs you, you'll only appear weak (and you'll get hurt in the process).

October 22, 2013

We did break up, after entering a relationship of sorts. I got over it. That's why I was so shocked when she came back to me again. It was just a mix up. I thought she wanted more than she was letting on. Now that I'm clear on where we stand, there's no problem. We have a mutually beneficial arrangement and she said she won't prevent me from seeing other people because she doesn't want it to be a relationship and has no right to ask me for exclusivity. At the same time, she is only sleeping with me as she doesn't sleep with multiple people at once and isn't looking for anyone either. All I am saying about our arrangement is that I am open minded. I don't expect more from her, but am open to it if she initiates.

It's not like she's holding me back from meeting someone else. If anything she's helping me avoid settling for the wrong person out of desperation of taking too long to find someone who's right for me. Perfect example would be women who already have kids of their own, or are involved with their ex's who are chasing me. I feel less inclined to bother with those types who I know are dead ends as far as a relationship is concerned when I have my friend with benefits to keep me going.

By break up I mean break up for good.

and your theory will work hypothetically, providing your feelings will never grow for her. again why are you posting here if you are not bothered at all?

If you like her and continue seeing her, you will become emotionally unavailable to the potential right woman. She is not helping you avoid wrong person. She is wasting your time meeting the right person.

Im saying this cuz i went through the exact same thing. I even had the same mindset (I'm not gonna get serious with him. Im gonna find the right guy while getting some entertainment from him at the same time. But no,I developed my feelings and now i cant even be interested in anyone else )

Anyway, Im not gonna tell you against your heart. I sense that you arent listening anyway. Do whatever you want.

P.S. its funny that you think women with kids are dead ends but an old woman who is emotionally unavailable not a dead end.

October 22, 2013

Protect yourself first and foremost. If you put your heart on the line while letting her use you...you will end up VERY hurt.

Also, "interest level" is a term invented by internet dating guru's and pickup artists, and doesn't have any basis in reality. The concept is being unavailable and a "challenge" to keep a woman anxious of losing you and constantly chasing. It's a poor foundation for mature relationships. The only piece of it that actually makes sense here is: Don't be at her beck and call. If you're there whenever she needs you, you'll only appear weak (and you'll get hurt in the process).

I know. She called of seeing me last week, she wanted to break all ties, she said, to help me move on. I said it wasn't necessary I was just confused, she did not reply.

That weekend, she went to my usual pub, no doubt hoping to see me, i didn't go there though, i was at a friends. Then she went to my usual nightclub where she like NEVER goes. I wasn't going to go there either. But I turned up near closing time at 2am and was surprised to find her there, all by herself. She could have easily pulled some other guy, but she hadn't. I imagine she was disappointed I hadn't came out that night and was probably very glad to see me. I gave her a nice time back in her flat and then a very nice time again in the morning. As soon as we finished, I told her we can just be friends who have good sex. She said "GREAT sex!" and then got myself out of there fairly early so that she didn't feel that I was lingering about. She said she'd text me.

So I think that all worked out rather well!

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

By break up I mean break up for good.
and your theory will work hypothetically, providing your feelings will never grow for her. again why are you posting here if you are not bothered at all?

If you like her and continue seeing her, you will become emotionally unavailable to the potential right woman. She is not helping you avoid wrong person. She is wasting your time meeting the right person.

Im saying this cuz i went through the exact same thing. I even had the same mindset (I'm not gonna get serious with him. Im gonna find the right guy while getting some entertainment from him at the same time. But no,I developed my feelings and now i cant even be interested in anyone else )

Anyway, Im not gonna tell you against your heart. I sense that you arent listening anyway. Do whatever you want.

P.S. its funny that you think women with kids are dead ends but an old woman who is emotionally unavailable not a dead end.

Don't take offense. Everyone wants something different, I'm sure there's plenty of men who would have a woman with kids, but not me. I'm a man who does not want kids, not even kids of my own. I certainly won't have another mans kids. A lady who does not have kids and won't have kids, who I have chemistry and strong mutual attraction with. She's not a dead end to me.

I was in a relationship from the age of 16 to 27, it never worked out. And my instincts always told me never to have kids with her. Thank god I did not.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

October 22, 2013

Girls say things they dont really mean all the time.

I think she doesnt want the pressure of the relationship, and when you verbalize it, you probably make your case worse.

I think if you stay with her without any labels, you will have a relationship in theory, but just without any distracting serious conversations.

If she tries say she doesnt want to be in a relationship with you, just play it off, and dont respond to it. When .she mentions that youre with other girls, dont talk about it. Girls like guys that are good WITH other girls.

I think you have this girl in the bag, the thing is that youre screwing it up for yourself by talking

October 22, 2013

Girls say things they dont really mean all the time.

I think she doesnt want the pressure of the relationship, and when you verbalize it, you probably make your case worse.
I think if you stay with her without any labels, you will have a relationship in theory, but just without any distracting serious conversations.

If she tries say she doesnt want to be in a relationship with you, just play it off, and dont respond to it. When .she mentions that youre with other girls, dont talk about it. Girls like guys that are good WITH other girls.

I think you have this girl in the bag, the thing is that youre screwing it up for yourself by talking

Last time I saw her, last Saturday night and Sunday morning, I told her that I understand she doesn't want a relationship. She just had earlier in the week called off seeing me once and for all, saying to break all ties, because she doesn't want a relationship. I said before I was confused and thought that she wanted more than she was letting on, and so to not screw things up, I decided to commit myself, to her. I said I was only trying to do the right thing. I told her clearly that was not what she wanted me to do. I told her that I get it now that this isn't to go anywhere. She seemed okay with that. She expressed concern that "now this has happened, you're going to get confused and then the texts throughout the week will start again won't they". I told I won't be contacting her at all and she'll have to contact me if she wants to see me.

I gave her a really special morning and she verbalized just how much she enjoyed it. Then I left early so not to linger. A few of the previous Sundays I stayed with her pretty much all day, not this time. I left. I'm pretty sure she said she would text later in the week, I know she said something like that, can't remember clearly.

How do you think it sounds now based on our last encounter? Hope I didn't say the wrong thing when I said I see this isn't going anywhere. Maybe it will work in my favor if she thinks she has pushed a bit too much this time.

So what should I do when she talks about me getting with other girls? She seems okay with it, like it's what she wants me to do. Although when presented with options, usually her younger friends who apparently can't stop obsessing over me, she has an excuse as to why each one of them would be wrong for me. There was also one time another woman I had been involved with was out and tried to involve herself with me and she got really mad at this woman.

Edited October 22, 2013 by cm00

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