Heard on Dr. Laura yesterday Funny, but oh so true

[Cali408]

Was driving home and listening to Dr. Laura on the radio. She just cuts callers off at the knees. So here was the situation.

 

Woman calls, been divorced 6 years. Has a boyfriend of 10 months. Right away, Laura asks about him. Caller says, "when I first started dating him he said he was separated, but he wasn't. He says he's getting separated. Laura rips into her for dating a married man and letting him lie to her. The caller had lied to her kids about him being separated. So after Laura lectures her about values, decency, etc. Asks Why are you calling? Caller replies, "my boyfriend wants to have a threesome with me and another woman."

 

Laura, just cuts her off and says, "how low can you go?"

 

After I stopped laughing, I thought, this woman, like a lot of the OW's on here and in the world are being used to get what MM's wives aren't giving them. The OW's think it's love, but in reality it's the MM's fulfilling his selfish needs.

 

I was guilty of this and although I was amused by the call, it hit home.

[Goodbye]

Uhm ok. I haven't seen many women on here who'd allow themselves to go down that road.

 

No offense, but I think Dr. Laura is a snoot on a high horse who engages in name calling and judgment. Like so many before her, I'm sure some scandal will break and we'll find out she is some kinky deviant.

 

The bottom line...The married AP engages in a tremendous amount of deception of both the SPOUSE and the OTHER. Shouldn't Dr. Laura put her energy at the source?

[Cali408]

The source didn't call. The OW did. Laura gave her reality. A. The guy lied to you right off the bat and you accepted it. (Low self esteem, allowing yourself to be walked on) B. You know he's married and you still see him (Morally wrong, questionable integrity) yet you still do it. C. Although you love him, you're ashamed (lying to your kids) D. He promises he's leaving his wife. (This has never been heard on here before.) E. He wants a threesome. (Guess wife isn't into group sex so he might as well ask someone he knows he can manipulate. The seducer can make the seducee do taboo according to the 24 rules of seduction)

 

If someone had posted this phone call on here, we would have probably been a little more supportive, but given the same answer.

 

In regard to Dr. Laura; Of course she is on a high horse doing mud slinging. That's her schtick. All in the form of entertainment. But you don't spend over two decades on the air and not make a little sense.

[Goodbye]

Cali- I so agree- one of the things my WS said was the OW was willing to do just about anything-things he would never dream of asking me to do out of respect-now how he can reconcile that with being respectful of me only he knows-its just one more thing that does not make sense-he explained it like this...once you drop your integrity its gone and you can convince yourself anything is OK- still trying to figure out how you get yourself to drop your integrity-maybe I should ask Dr Laura-

 

 

Weski, was it hard for you to find out your H is the type to ask someone to "drop her integrity" to please him?

[Cali408]

This guy was me except for lying about being separated. My AP was an old friend for 20 years. That's why it hit home. I can think of at least 4 things, my wife would never do sexually. From the OW, I got 3 and the 4th was on the table for discussion. I did say I was going to leave my wife. Not anytime soon, but someday.

 

And when listened to the call from an objective point of view, it was such a ridiculous situation, that anyone with any sense of logic would have told the caller she needed to get her head examined.

 

But when you're in the middle of it, everything seems to make sense. The word insanity comes to mind when it comes to affairs.

[Cali408]

Weski, was it hard for you to find out your H is the type to ask someone to "drop her integrity" to please him?

 

He dropped his integrity by convincing himself that the affair was right. That is how I'm reading this.

 

Goodbye, if you've been in an affair, it doesn't matter which side you are on, you've dropped your integrity. I don't think it's something that needs to be or is asked.

 

We've all seen, said, or heard the quote. "i know it's wrong, i feel guilty, but no one has made me feel like this before." The last clause is the drop in integrity.

[central]

Lying about being separated or divorced is unacceptable, IMO. I think it's fine to date someone who is actually separated, if that what you want to do - I have, and would.

 

Threesomes or other arrangements are perfectly fine, too, as long as everyone is willingly on board with the idea, and rules/boundaries discussed and agreed to in order to prevent problems or unwelcome surprises. We've had a bunch, and they've always been fun and worked out well - because we were prepared.

[UpwardForward]

I used to listen to Dr Laura. Imo, everything she said was of logic incl she would always say: Those who divorce, don't remarry until the children are 18. Imo, this makes perfect sense. Why drag the kids into the smut and for them to be put through needless additional life change and challenge.

[central]

I used to listen to Dr Laura. Imo, everything she said was of logic incl she would always say: Those who divorce, don't remarry until the children are 18. Imo, this makes perfect sense. Why drag the kids into the smut and for them to be put through needless additional life change and challenge.

 

I think she was wrong about waiting to remarry until the kids are 18 - it's certainly not valid in general. All the children would have seen prior to the divorce was - most likley - a dysfunctional marriage. I wanted my son to see an example of a great marriage - and I accomplished exactly that. It was good for him, and of course good for me.

[underwater2010]

I love Dr. Laura. She is right on the mark with this one. How low is this person willing to go. I get that the caller was lied to, but once the truth comes to light why in the hell would she accept less than everything.

 

She did not need to address the WH or the BW as they did Kot call in.

 

There is a lot she talks about. Including put effort into your marriage instead of he selfish entitlement of today's society. Most people don't like her because she speaks of common sense and leading with your brain...not your heart. A lot of her advise is just good ol common sense.

[Speakingofwhich]

Seems whomever would call into Dr. Laura would be someone who listens to her radio program. So, why would anyone who listens to Doc L who was dating an MM who lied to her and who wanted her to be part of a threesome call into Dr. Laura? Seems it's a no brainer that the caller would know she'd be exposing herself to ridicule. Who does that? Almost sounds like a plant.....to entertain listeners......

[UpwardForward]

I think she was wrong about waiting to remarry until the kids are 18 - it's certainly not valid in general. All the children would have seen prior to the divorce was - most likley - a dysfunctional marriage. I wanted my son to see an example of a great marriage - and I accomplished exactly that. It was good for him, and of course good for me.

 

When I think about it, probably my husband would have said the same. And I wonder how many other adulterers would say: It's not about me, I'm just doing everyone a favor.

[yellowmaverick]

I may be way off base here, but wasn't Dr. Laura an OW herself? I may have her confused with someone else... IDK.

[RainDown]

I may be way off base here, but wasn't Dr. Laura an OW herself? I may have her confused with someone else... IDK.

 

No, you're not off base. Laura Schlessinger was an OW. Her MM was married with three kids. He left his wife and kids and moved in with Schlessinger in 1975. Actually, I think her term for that is "shacking up". Apparently the rest of us are not allowed to do things like that, but it seems it was fine and dandy for her to do it.

 

She's also the same nutjob who says homosexuality is a biological error and that the majority of male homosexuals are pedophiles.

 

I didn't even know she was still on the air. Most stations dumped her hypocritical behind at least 10 years ago.

[Goodbye]

No, you're not off base. Laura Schlessinger was an OW. Her MM was married with three kids. He left his wife and kids and moved in with Schlessinger in 1975. Actually, I think her term for that is "shacking up". Apparently the rest of us are not allowed to do things like that, but it seems it was fine and dandy for her to do it.

 

She's also the same nutjob who says homosexuality is a biological error and that the majority of male homosexuals are pedophiles.

 

I didn't even know she was still on the air. Most stations dumped her hypocritical behind at least 10 years ago.

 

Ha! I had a feeling she was a woman with a past. Most major finger pointers have something to hide.

[RainDown]

Ha! I had a feeling she was a woman with a past. Most major finger pointers have something to hide.

 

Yeah. And then there was the thing a few years back where an ex-boyfriend (also an MM, btw) sold a bunch of nude photos he had taken of her during their affair to some internet site.

 

I don't know what happened to her. It seems like she used to be a lot of fun back in the day.

[MissBee]

Uhm ok. I haven't seen many women on here who'd allow themselves to go down that road.

 

No offense, but I think Dr. Laura is a snoot on a high horse who engages in name calling and judgment. Like so many before her, I'm sure some scandal will break and we'll find out she is some kinky deviant.

 

The bottom line...The married AP engages in a tremendous amount of deception of both the SPOUSE and the OTHER. Shouldn't Dr. Laura put her energy at the source?

 

I would agree, except that the "source" isn't who called in....so why address the source who isn't there to hear, might as well address the person who actually is spending their time to call the show to ask if they should have a 3some with their MM. This person called obviously because she doesn't know heads from tails in this situation.

[Got it]

Was driving home and listening to Dr. Laura on the radio. She just cuts callers off at the knees. So here was the situation.

 

Woman calls, been divorced 6 years. Has a boyfriend of 10 months. Right away, Laura asks about him. Caller says, "when I first started dating him he said he was separated, but he wasn't. He says he's getting separated. Laura rips into her for dating a married man and letting him lie to her. The caller had lied to her kids about him being separated. So after Laura lectures her about values, decency, etc. Asks Why are you calling? Caller replies, "my boyfriend wants to have a threesome with me and another woman."

 

Laura, just cuts her off and says, "how low can you go?"

 

After I stopped laughing, I thought, this woman, like a lot of the OW's on here and in the world are being used to get what MM's wives aren't giving them. The OW's think it's love, but in reality it's the MM's fulfilling his selfish needs.

 

I was guilty of this and although I was amused by the call, it hit home.

 

Yes, Dr. Laura, who had her own affair and hasn't shown any ownership for it. Great person, definitely someone I would be listening to (in general).

[Got it]

No, you're not off base. Laura Schlessinger was an OW. Her MM was married with three kids. He left his wife and kids and moved in with Schlessinger in 1975. Actually, I think her term for that is "shacking up". Apparently the rest of us are not allowed to do things like that, but it seems it was fine and dandy for her to do it.

 

She's also the same nutjob who says homosexuality is a biological error and that the majority of male homosexuals are pedophiles.

 

I didn't even know she was still on the air. Most stations dumped her hypocritical behind at least 10 years ago.

 

See I should just read threads first! Definitely not someone I would listen to. Put her right up there with Rush Limbaugh.

[sweet_pea]

So because she was an exOW, her advice/thoughts on affairs don't count?

[Journee]

So because she was an exOW, her advice/thoughts on affairs don't count? [/QU

 

I have never listened to this particular radio personality. I don't know if her advice is coming from a good place or not but I don't see why her past is an issue. If posters here on LS from all corners of the world can give advice with their pasts.....

 

No matter what one's story may be.

 

In today's world it seems like anyone can have their own talk show , reality show ,vlog, YouTube channel , etc. They all have skeletons in their closet. Maybe she doesn't want another woman going down that road. There are some fOW who I really miss around here. Their opinion was to the point and honest. No less important than any other.

 

oh well. Hypocrisy abounds. It's a trait we all share even if just for a moment.

[AMusing]

"Dr." Laura is a condescending, self-righteous hypocrite. I can't believe she's still on air. She was wrong--among many things--about her rule of no remarrying until the kids are adults. I'm a child of divorce. My mom didn't date again until I was an adult. It was sad watching her go through life alone, and I sometimes wonder if my view on marriage would be less skeptical and fearful if I had seen her in a strong, loving relationship. By all means, move slowly, take time before you introduce them, make sure that your kids are comfortable with the relationship.... But to resign yourself to a decade or more of loneliness? Totally unhealthy.

 

I used to listen to Dr Laura. Imo, everything she said was of logic incl she would always say: Those who divorce, don't remarry until the children are 18. Imo, this makes perfect sense. Why drag the kids into the smut and for them to be put through needless additional life change and challenge.

[Got it]

Those defending Dr. Laura? Do you even know the crap that she spews?

 

If that is a voice of reason, God help us.

[RainDown]

So because she was an exOW, her advice/thoughts on affairs don't count?

 

The mere fact that she was an OW (twice) is not a problem - the problem is that she spent years on the radio harshly critisizing and judging people in affairs, people "shacking up", people remarrying when they had children while never revealing she herself had done those very things. And when confronted with the truth of her own background she lied about it until backed into a corner and forced to tell the truth to her "audience".

 

It's a different thing for an exOW (or an ex-anything) to say, "Look I was a <insert label here> too and what I learned is <whatever>. I respect advice/thoughts coming from a place of honesty, no matter the person's background. Advice/thoughts coming from a place of deception and hypocrisy, for me personally, do not mean a thing. Throwing bigotry into the mix nailed her coffin shut - she lost her TV contract, most of her advertisers and radio stations, and a large segment of her audience when she slipped up and revealed the extent of her bigotry, on top of everything else.

 

The advice or thoughts of Laura Schlessinger about anything are worthless to me for many reasons; one of which is not that she was an OW.

[MalachiX]

I've learned not to listen to anything Dr. Laura says because it makes me want to punch her. Not to mention she's not a real Doctor. She has a PhD in English which in no way makes me more qualified to give people psychological advice.