coolheadal Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Like I said if you don't believe them ask for some ID. You can always check online for their ages. But then again they need to have some sort of ID though. If the age is really important then investigate them, but some might not like that deep checkup. Best to come clean and just tell them the truth!
Author sickpuppy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think having an age preference is a bad thing in itself, I said recently that I have a range I prefer too. I just think that sometimes the reasons given, along with a frustration that the poster can't find someone in that range, answers its own question - for example, here the OP says that he shouldn't have to settle for someone his own age because he looks and feels so much younger.... completely not getting that he expects his "target market" to settle by dating him. Apparently, the idea that 30 year olds might not want to date 44 year olds has gone over his head a bit. I don't mean all the above to appear rude. I just think the OP can probably answer his own question as to why women aren't interested when they discover his real age. Why do I think they wouldn't? Because my age lowers my value in their eyes. Working two jobs, dressing better than mostly everyone in the second job, having a brand new car, looking young, staying in shape, hardly any gray hair, being a cool dude, having done way more than most (not just hanging out) like literally always going new places etc. doesn't mean much if the crowd and how THEY the women would look and be talked about would make them appear. I understand that. Thing is if I were some Godly looking dude and all the other chicks were lining up...the younger ones would THEN see "Value" in me. It would be like a good social status thing for them. I know damn well these same women who run off at the mention of age wouldn't give a rats arse if I looked like and had the STATUS of a David Beckham. They'd literally be fighting to be the next in line. So I don't buy the nonsense of "Oh he's too old". The same ones who "help" each other would stab each other in the back if they saw some "value" they could get for themselves. Just tonight I was out with my friend..Two girls..about 27-28 passed by us as we were standing outside..One looked directly in my eyes and smiled. They went in the place we were at...and came right out and walked right by us twice. I've had women on vacation or just going out come up to me and start talking. Mid twenties and up. I think it's the job thing. They are scared of being talked about by their "friends" and peers who even if married want to be the ones to have the attention regardless.
Author sickpuppy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 I have never lied about my age. I'm 30. I have a twin sister who lied about her age at work cause they guessed like 23, so I think she said 25 or something....then it was our birthday and she couldn't remember what age she was supposed to be turning I would never date a guy in his 40s, not even late 30s. I like guys around my age, like within 4 years either way. So even if a guy looked 28, if he really was 40, I'd not go for it. I don't have enough in common with someone 10 years older than me and I like people who are in the same stage of life as me. My older sister is 4 years older than me, I wouldn't date older than her. Lying seems pointless. date people who are okay with your age. if you aren't okay with dating people your OWN age, OP, why would people YOUNGER than you be okay with dating someone your age? Like....the logic fails. I am NOT surprised 20somethings aren't interested in a mid 40s man. The only (few) girls I knew in my early 20s who dated middle aged men were girls with major issues and/or girls who were looking for some $. I see your point too. And I realize a lot of younger girls even late twenties are no where as experienced in life even if they think they are because they get facebook etc. attention and have been randomly hooking up through their lives. I just don't see any value for myself in dating or getting serious with women my age who have baggage. It's dating down for me. Not to sound like an azz but seriously.
Author sickpuppy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 You're a 44 yeah old with a snobby mirror pic as his avatar who frequently uses the word "azz" in his posts. Me thinks you are overestimating what you have to offer. Oh for the love of God it was a simple pic. When I go out I'm too busy doing things with friends to stop and have pics taken of myself let alone taking pictures of other things. I'm busy. (So I used the word "Azz" sue me.)
Lokie Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I prefer late twenties the lowest up to mid 30's as I don't have any kids, never been married, work two jobs, have my bills paid off, no other baggage etc. and don't feel I should settle for "what people my age should get". Almost like feeling I have to date down when I myself don't offer anything of low value. (Best way I can word it. Not trying to come off like some pomous azz. lol) Too late, sicky, me thinks thou art a pom(p)ous azz! IMO, anyone who thinks a woman's worth is directly proportional to the number of years younger they are to them should be focusing a bit more on their own character.
Author sickpuppy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 Too late, sicky, me thinks thou art a pom(p)ous azz! IMO, anyone who thinks a woman's worth is directly proportional to the number of years younger they are to them should be focusing a bit more on their own character. No I look at the person too. It's people I know. Not just random strangers. Women who flirt with me or seem interested. Not just going up to anyone younger to date.
Mascara Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 You're not going to answer my question are you.
irc333 Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I get a kick out of women who think that somehow they justify lying about their age only because they were "gifted" with good genes and love to brag about being carded when entering a night club. It's more bragging rights really. In fact, I thought a more attractive woman would be proud of how she looks of her age and would motivate her to be honest about it where people would say, "Wow! You're 55? I could hardly tell you were a day over 40!" I recall one woman admitting to lying about her age on her dating profile and since she knew my real age, I figured I'd let it slide a couple of dates and then I finally asked her what her real age was. She still wouldn't tell me, gave me the ol' "You NEVER ask a woman here age!" line. lol How many of you men and women lie about your age in order to improve your odds with the opposite sex? I'm not talking about OLD either. I'm talking about in real life. I'm 44 but have been told I look around 34, dress well, hardly any gray hair, work out etc. I'm pretty honest and it seems it bites me in the azz. I usually get girls like as low as 23 and up flirting with me but as soon as most women hear 44 they take off. (They sometimes ask or I just tell them.) Do any or most of you lie about your age to other people you date or would like to?
irc333 Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I recall an issue with older women is the fact that men THEIR age aren't as active as they are and also not keen on keeping steady with their own looks past a certain age. So some 50 something women are struggling finding men that have not let themselves go or at LEAST be active. I recall this one woman I went out with, I was in my early late 30's she was in her mid 40's, she told me that the last guy she was with was a construction worker, and spent most of his weekends sitting at home watching football games. She had a body to die for , worked out a lot but she wasn't asking that he hit the gym as often as she did, but rather spend time riding bikes with her or doing any kind of casual activity, but he wound up being a fat couch potato. lol So she tends to gravitate towards younger men NOT because she's a cougar, but because she has more in common with them activity-wise. 1
Mascara Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 In fact, I thought a more attractive woman would be proud of how she looks of her age and would motivate her to be honest about it where people would say, "Wow! You're 55? I could hardly tell you were a day over 40!" That's what my mother always said. She always looked 10 years younger than she is, but she never lied because she loved the "wow" compliments. I've never lied either, I could get away with knocking a few years off, but I've earned these years! 1
Skyraider829 Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 LOL IM SHALLOW? Yeah a 44yearold hitting on a 23 year old is shallow! Good lord where are people with actual sense! Yeah it does occur a lot...because men are very shallow creatures and prioritize ****ability over all other qualities in a woman. Sorry to be blunt but its the truth! Actual sense? I'm not taking any sides if you haven't already noticed. Didn't I say that some guys do hit on younger women for more corporeal reasons? I believe I did. I did not in any way deny that some do. You can drop your verbal attack. And no, not all men are shallow creatures. What a kind thing to say. I doubt you've met every guy in your country or in every corner of the world. Apparently you must think that pretty much every male thinks about nothing but sex appeal. You are valid in believing this since a lot do, and I'm sure its true if you flip the table around. But some don't. My point is, no matter what the age difference may be, you can and do find people who spot out characteristics in one another besides fresh bait and will pursue the person based on those characteristics. Not every younger person is seeking the older person for their money, my family history had some pretty significant age gaps and neither had money shooting out of their asses.
Skyraider829 Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I recall an issue with older women is the fact that men THEIR age aren't as active as they are and also not keen on keeping steady with their own looks past a certain age. So some 50 something women are struggling finding men that have not let themselves go or at LEAST be active. I recall this one woman I went out with, I was in my early late 30's she was in her mid 40's, she told me that the last guy she was with was a construction worker, and spent most of his weekends sitting at home watching football games. She had a body to die for , worked out a lot but she wasn't asking that he hit the gym as often as she did, but rather spend time riding bikes with her or doing any kind of casual activity, but he wound up being a fat couch potato. lol So she tends to gravitate towards younger men NOT because she's a cougar, but because she has more in common with them activity-wise. A very, very good point you have there. Some girls may go for older, more sedentary guys if they prefer to be sedentary themselves amongst their younger, more athletic male counterparts.
Author sickpuppy Posted September 26, 2013 Author Posted September 26, 2013 You're not going to answer my question are you. If a woman was 50 and looked 35? If we got along I wouldn't mind it. It depends on the person to me. Same reason I'm not tripping over myself to date much younger women. I thought for some reason this 23yo knew my age as I pretty much tell it to everyone who asks (and they do ask not just because I look younger but don't "act" like they think a 40+ year old is "supposed" to act and am friends with a lot of the younger guys.) She does have a few co-workers whom I also talk to and I figured she would've asked them and knew my age. I had originally thought she was like at least 28. We seemed to get along great and she would always be looking at me and smiling if I looked up, then talking to me etc. At one point I'd mentioned previously we'd had a conversation that when I asked her what she was doing for Labor day she said "I'm not going to be doing anything." Twice. Then stopped, looked into my eyes quiet and smiling. At that point I HAD to ask for her number. She gave it to me and even seemed excited and interested in texts. When I'd first told her maybe we'd go to a place by the water for a drinks she was excited. I figured later on it would be cold so I changed it to another place with sushi. (I like sushi and figured we might be hungry if we went later on.) Then planned on taking her to see the Freedom Tower as she had told me she doesn't do much. (It would've been a Wednesday and I work a full time day job.) I think later on she and her friends thought I was either going to take her out to dinner and for a ride to NYC to "get some" or something. I'm not going to feel "sorry" for it though as I know if I was mid thirties or younger she would've went and possibly wanted me for something more. I don't buy the innocent act but know the finger pointing "there's the bad guy" nonsense. Obviously she didn't know my real age till her co-worker had asked me another night and I told her. Then a few days later out of nowhere completely ignored me. I'm positive she feels embarassed she'd liked me and I think she was thinking she would've slept with me if I saw her on Labor day. (Before she knew my real age which is what had to be what freaked her out.) and therefore completely ignored me after she'd found out. (If I were just some user I simply wouldn't have mentioned anything, went to see her right away on Labor day and slept with her as she obviously thought I was younger.) Knowing my "value" had dropped with my mention again of age and her social status needs in the place she threw me under the bus. And I've literally never come on to her like some creeping pervert. She could've at least said: Hey I didn't know you were that much older and I would've simply said no problem I thought you knew and didn't mind. Yet she doesn't want any accountability on her part and will let me seem like the "bad" person. I don't blame her though. I understand.
Mascara Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Ok, well instead of having a preference for women under 35, why not try for older women who are the same as you - look younger, no baggage, young outlook? You might have a lot more luck. And she will have been a teenager when you were, bought the same records, remember the same TV shows, grew up in the same political environment... I say all this because in the last few years I've gone waaaay off the older men I used to prefer, and I really value the men my age.
FitChick Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) I recall an issue with older women is the fact that men THEIR age aren't as active as they are and also not keen on keeping steady with their own looks past a certain age. That's it in a nutshell. The problem with stating my real age on a dating profile is that I won't even come up in the Searches. I have been accused via email 'finger wagging' of posting old photos: "Who do you think you are fooling? You women blah blah blah." Lying just makes for a more pleasant dating experience! Edited September 26, 2013 by FitChick
PlumPrincess Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I hear you. But I know several people younger than me whom look older than me. People even think I'm younger than my younger brothers. I can tell if people are just putting on BS and stroking your ego. I've gotten it from many dudes too. Half the 27 year old dudes invite me out to go places. When you get the SAME people you've worked with asking you then later on asking you after a few weeks how old you are...you know they don't believe it. I can tell if someone asked once and BS'd about it but telling them again and again various people..I know I look younger than 44. Hell most people I graduated with look horrible. I insist on pictures.
FitChick Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 I prefer to date men who are younger, who haven't been divorced, who do not have kids, did not rack up a million miles and date every loser and be screwed up in the head due to it. I also like it that they can have fun, let the relationship develop in a normal and natural way and not feel like "Insert Gal / Sucker Here" due to their biological clock / desire to be married / Security / Looks are fading and better find one quick / Not many options left / etc. Fixed your statement to reflect my views. 1
StanMusial Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 I recall an issue with older women is the fact that men THEIR age aren't as active as they are and also not keen on keeping steady with their own looks past a certain age. So some 50 something women are struggling finding men that have not let themselves go or at LEAST be active. I recall this one woman I went out with, I was in my early late 30's she was in her mid 40's, she told me that the last guy she was with was a construction worker, and spent most of his weekends sitting at home watching football games. She had a body to die for , worked out a lot but she wasn't asking that he hit the gym as often as she did, but rather spend time riding bikes with her or doing any kind of casual activity, but he wound up being a fat couch potato. lol So she tends to gravitate towards younger men NOT because she's a cougar, but because she has more in common with them activity-wise. What exactly is "early late 30's"? 36 to 37?
Author sickpuppy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Posted September 27, 2013 I insist on pictures. I don't have any on here nor have any albums. I don't have any facebook pics as I deleted it a year and a half ago. (Due to it boring me to tears.) Who has time for that? lol. I don't have an OLD profile either. And as of this afternoon I was feeling like an extra jerk and took the one off I had as my avatar. lol Oh and for an update: Tonight I was still being ignored. At this point I don't care anymore. I think there are at least five of them who know. Three older ladies and the two younger ones. I'm perv creeper of the dept store. I always did have a way with the ladies! lol
Author sickpuppy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Posted September 27, 2013 I have a preference of not dating people with bad credit, substance abuse, criminal record, divorced, etc. Are you going to tell me that I need to change MY preference on those things too? Fortunately, I have options. I can date those elusive women I haven't met above or there are plenty of younger women who have no issues with dating older men. For some reason, me just saying what I did (which is common knowledge and very common)... Makes a lot of the 30s+ women on here go ape5hit. I will probably get attacked over it, told that it doesn't happen, called a pervert, creep, liar, etc. Even though... my dad and step mom who have a wonderful, loving, caring relationship (25+ years - 14 years age difference) or several other couples I am fortunate to be around (married 20+ years and all have at least a 15 years age difference). Then keep on dating them. I prefer to date women who are younger, who haven't been divorced, who do not have kids, did not rack up a million miles and date every loser known to man and be screwed up in the head due to it. I also like it that they can have fun, let the relationship develop in a normal and natural way and not feel like "Insert Guy / Sucker Here" due to their biological clock / desire to be married / Security / Looks are fading and better find one quick / Not many options left / etc. There is nothing wrong with your outlook / take / preference on who you date and the same goes for the rest of us. It either produces results or it doesn't and people will adjust their BF / GF pickers accordingly or be alone. ^^^See this is what I'm talking about^^^ My last ex was 26. We had a good relationship but broke up for other reasons. I don't mean to come off like an ahole but what normal common sense thinking woman who has good credit, no kids, works two good jobs, is in shape and looks good for her age, nice car etc. would decide "We'll I'd better settle for what I can get." and go for others with baggage etc. Sorry but if you f'd up in life I'm not some white knight looking to save some woman who's finally "learned" I'll let someone else claim that prize. Though most women seem to love "abuse" so they can have something to gossip about and "complain" to friends about the guy the need to fix up for their challenge of their "prize". They seem to think if you are cool, kind, and a good person you are "boring" and would for some reason be soo in "need" of them. They couldn't be more wrong in my case. No joke. I wouldn't treat any woman like crap and wouldn't expect it nor take it from anyone either. I'd drop some 27 year old just the same as I would a 40 year old. True story. Then again women seem to thrive on drama and "excitement" in their lives from those they perceive as their "bad boy". lmao
NoMoreJerks Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 How many of you men and women lie about your age in order to improve your odds with the opposite sex? I'm not talking about OLD either. I'm talking about in real life. I'm 44 but have been told I look around 34, dress well, hardly any gray hair, work out etc. I'm pretty honest and it seems it bites me in the azz. I usually get girls like as low as 23 and up flirting with me but as soon as most women hear 44 they take off. (They sometimes ask or I just tell them.) Do any or most of you lie about your age to other people you date or would like to? Why would they take off? My ex was 40, I didn't mind dating him (he also looked about 30ish). I always tell the truth about my age. I don't even believe in the whole thing some women do, about being offended that someone asked them how old they are, and that it's some sort of a well-guarded secret. I just say it like it is: I'm 30. I usually get pleasant remarks when I say my age: that I don't look older than 23-24.
Mascara Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 I have a preference of not dating people with bad credit, substance abuse, criminal record, divorced, etc. Are you going to tell me that I need to change MY preference on those things too? . Everybody can have all the preferences they like. The OPs preferences aren't working out for him, hence his thread. So I suggested a bit of an adjustment might improve his dating life. If he was having no problem getting all the younger women he likes, more power to him.
Author sickpuppy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Posted September 27, 2013 Everybody can have all the preferences they like. The OPs preferences aren't working out for him, hence his thread. So I suggested a bit of an adjustment might improve his dating life. If he was having no problem getting all the younger women he likes, more power to him. It's pretty much because it's my part time. If it wasn't and I lie about my age (though never asked up front) I'd be much more "successful". I get approached on vacation and at various places from younger women anyway. It's I'm more of the type to get to know people first and then decide. Not trying to just date anyone younger. Every one of my last three exes was about 11-14 years younger. So it's mostly due to I'm in a part time work environment. Who knows..I may meet a woman closer to my age and everyone can be giddy about it.
Author sickpuppy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Posted September 27, 2013 The hilarious thing about this whole situation is that the same woman who's married and 44 as well (whom I'm positive was the one who "helped" her younger collegue out) is going out to play tennis with a known married womanizer who's about 63-64 or so from my dept. Now she may not know the type he is but..
KathyM Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Improve your odds for what exactly? Certainly not for developing a relationship with someone, since your real age will come out soon enough, and the fact that you lied about it will torpedo the potential relationship, if not the age factor itself. It might improve your odds for getting a few dates out of the person you are trying to dupe before they find out the truth, but do you really want to manipulate someone into dating you by deceiving them? You're going to look pretty pathetic and manipulative when the truth comes out, and it will eventually, likely sooner than later. 1
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