Dating these days = hookup culture?

[SJC2008]

So basically what you're saying is that hookups are not part of the hookup culture.

 

Yes, we will agree to disagree.

 

So when you hookup with your girlfriend are you part of the HC? Nice try and to answer your question. In your personalized, broad definition that includes cheating? Yes I am saying that that type of hookup isn't part of HC. Also, the term hookup is ambiguous in itself in that it can mean anything from making out, to sex. Now when the word hookup is used with culture it has a different meaning, like apple and apple sauce. They're associated but different and I don't understand how you fail to realize that. I think it goes without saying that the term HC applies to single people but since no definition specifically states that it doens't involve couples you're making your own definiton.

[Mrlonelyone]

So basically what you're saying is that hookups are not part of the hookup culture.

 

Yes, we will agree to disagree.

 

 

 

Hook up culture inmate than sexual intercourse. It is about sharing intimate time, on many levels without an exclusive relationship.

 

 

In a way it is people being friends first then becoming lovers then becoming a couple. It also makes moving on easier.

[Babolat]

I've experienced the same and had been trying to avoid these women but honestly, when it seems like most of them both online & off are like this.....

 

I was chatting with one yesterday, who went into a conversation about dick pics. How men send them to her..then, she asked me if I had ever done that. No, of course, and never will.

 

She continued with lots of sexual hints, even said "when WILL I see yours then?".

 

Again, this is not bragging. I get "you have such a refreshing profile on here" and within a few messages sex somehow comes up. Or I hear how they are put off buy all the rude, one liners they get, but later they somehow turn the conversation into sex.

 

And, I am amazed at how many profiles have bikini and/or cleavage shots. And then, THEY complain if a man has a photo with his shirt off......

 

2 years ago I would reply to those as, well, it's where I was then. Now, I skip over them as they are using their "assets" to sell me. I would rather see "more of you" in person, in due time.

[KathyM]

In college, everyone is a participant of the hooking-up culture.

So many inaccurate generalizations here, I don't know where to start. It is a myth that college students are doing all this hooking up while in college. Many are more into relationships while in college, and are not into the hookup culture, as the article posted earlier will support.

You have the hound-dogs. These guys will sleep with anything with a skirt. These guys can range from average to good-looking. Good-looking guys have more of a chance of getting laid, but the women don't take kindly to sexual desperation.They can actually smell it. One of the things that turns young women on is knowing you, the man, you are surrounded by young women all day and you still have the self-discipline to not leer/stare/look at them/hit on any woman who notices your existance.

You reduce men to nothing but walking dicks with these comments. Not all men are walking around obsessing about where they are going to get their next lay. Some men are focusing on other things in their life, like what they are actually going to college for, their career goals, and other interests, such as sports and hobbies. Not all men are desperately seeking sex at all hours of the day and night, and giving off desperation vibes if they aren't having sex. SOME men might be. Most men have other things going on in their life.

That's something a lot of guys never learn. They think its a numbers game. Hit on a lot of women and you're bound to get one. Nope. Women know all they need to do is talk to you once and you're theirs to do whatever they want(pay for their stuff, take them out, put up with them).

The above generalizations are pretty much hogwash. Finding someone IS a numbers game. The more women you approach, the more likely you are to find a woman interested in spending time with you. And most men are not pushovers either who put up with a bunch of crap from women and take them on shopping trips to buy them stuff. You give your gender way too little credit.

The female equivalent of the hound-dog is the woman looking for a relationship when she's met the guy a week or so ago. If you enter a relationship with her you're expected to fulfill certain roles and you're pretty much barred from the female collective. And when she dumps you or you dump you, you'll have to wait quite a fair amount of time before you can go for another girl and by then you're perceived by the majority of the women as ''dating material'' and only the women who are interested in relationships will show an ink of interest(women interested in relationships tend to be average-looking).

The above are just ridiculous statements. The opposite, not the equivalent, of a player is a woman looking for a relationship, who does not waste her time and emotions on random short term hookups. There is also no waiting period that a person has to observe between relationships. And to say that attractive women are not interested in relationships, but are only interested in hookups is a ridiculous statement. Women are relationship-oriented, regardless of their appearance. They are wired to be that way. Some may engage in casual sex during their single youth. Most (95%) want a long term relationship, but that takes time to find. Unfortunately, women are led to believe that they have to put out early in order to keep a guy and have a chance at a relationship with him, but if anything, that is counterproductive to their goal of having a lasting relationship, because the men who are into the pump and dump will not stick around after getting what they want, and the men who are looking for a relationship would not dump her for not putting out right away. If anything, they would have more respect for the woman if she doesn't, and consider her more relationship material.

You have the still attractive 22 year old woman who took a fancy to you but takes some time to warm up to you, at least in sexual terms, the late teen girls who dress like they've fallen asleep and went back to spring break - those are the most fun to play with as they become attracted to the men who aren't top notch(talking about Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt looks) by how the guys attitude is: does he ignore her, doesn't stare at heir nearly exposed breasts/butt?

 

He seems interesting.

 

Either way, each man and woman has a specific approach to hooking-up. You just need to know the woman's age group and play accordingly and in harmony with what you want from your college experience.

 

And hooking-up isn't all about sex. There's the girls who have one, two serious boyfriends during their years in college but have made-out with more than 20 guys. There's the tease who is still a virgin but doesn't want anyone to know and makes the guy dance around, but it still counts as hooking-up. There's the class/college BJ queen(self-explanatory) and the girl who develops crushes over every guy she meets and has some sort of intimacy with him, even if its just a special friendship.

Virgin women count as participating in the hookup culture? Um, no. Hooking up means they're having sex, dear boy. Friendships and relationships do not qualify as hookups. Hookups are casual sex with random strangers or people you barely know.

[Babolat]

I had no cleavage shots, no sexual innuendo in my profile, in emails, or even in person on first meets.

 

But rather than men calling you up like they used to and asking you out on a proper date, they'd say "I'll text you and maybe we can hang" then they expect you to show up at their house or some bar they're at with their friends.

 

Unoriginal. Unromantic. Uninspiring. And BORING.

 

Men in their 30's are doing this, too, it's not just the young ones anymore.

 

My brother, at 57 does this, and woman come to his house, first date, and he goes to theirs...sick.

 

A woman on OLD told me last night a guy invited himself over to watch a movie, and do his laundry, for their first meet up. Wow. I told her he was my Hero, in a sarcastic kind of way of course.

 

And hey, the more of them there are, the better I look!

 

I am just chatting now, and. it's getting to be exhausitng already and reminds me why I stopped OLD 2 years ago.

[Anela]

I see so many complaints about women not wanting sex... wanting relationships, and not just having sex with the men who want it so badly. Now there are men complaining here, that women will have sex with men they'd never date? It sounds like the perfect scenario for some.

 

I've never had a FWB situation, or hooked up, so I can't properly relate, but I can see how one might only feel an attraction to sleeping with someone, but not dating them - I don't think I could do that for long, if at all, but some people just aren't compatible enough to spend that much time together (the time that would usually be put into a relationship). You might like to go out for a few hours, and enjoy a movie, but have habits that would drive each other insane at home.

 

I have been troubled in the past, by the idea that sex was only wanted, the whole multiple-intimate-relationship, PUA-heaven type deal. There are plenty of men out there who have only ever wanted to "hook up." Why the complaints about women doing the same?

[Anela]

I am amazed at the number of womon on the OLD site I am on, who have a profile that screams "LTR", yet when you start chatting with them the conversation drifts into sex.

 

 

I've been messaged by a woman for sex, only she didn't have long-term dating marked on her profile - she was looking for a "third" for herself and her partner. I politely informed her that I wasn't looking for that, and she backed off.

[Ruby Slippers]

I think some men feel that being used just for sex isn't as appealing as they imagined it would be.

 

Sex is fantastic. But without anything deeper underlying it, it's essentially a basic animal function. If your relationship never goes beyond that, then you're basically like two monkeys using each other to stimulate a brain chemical reward.

 

I think most people have a desire to relate to people on a higher plane, the human plane of the intellect, the heart, the soul. Reducing interactions with the opposite sex to animal functions keeps you stuck at the animal level. That's only satisfying to a degree. Most people will eventually long for more than that.

[xxoo]

I think OLD has played a part, as people move away from dating people they know and like (and will see in daily life) toward dating strangers.

 

But I can vouch that we were "hooking up" in HS and college in the late 80s/early 90s. And all of the college girls I know at the moment have boyfriends.

 

I do think that hooking up is more accepted these days, and I think that's a good thing, esp if people are more honest about it (less ashamed). Sex shame sucks. But plenty of people still seek relationships, and find them.

[StanMusial]

I can write a paper saying there's life on Mars and ask NASA to put their signatures on the paper, fake some 'proof' and volá. You've found your first Alien lifeforms.

 

Are you in college? Are you in daily contact with 18-30+ year olds? Do you go out with them? Do you spend your lunch hour talking to guys about the girls they're sleeping with? Are you with the girls in their bathrooms gossiping about who has the bigger penis, who can last longer, who is dating material and who is good enough for casual hook-ups?

 

Have you ever talked to students from Europe, South America and Canada? Have you ever been to Europe? Do you think the people who come from Countries where women can walk around topless in non-nude beaches are going to be shy? Or how American women when visiting Europe sleep a lot with French, Swedish, and German men because they fit the women's criteria?

 

The only modest students I've met so far - the ones who don't indulge in the hook-up culture - are the Asians. But I still see the occasional Chinese guy trying to get out of their hierarchy to try to date the girl he likes.

 

 

 

Is that so? Let me think about that one. I enter the bus. I see a guy who was pushing his late 80's, he can barely walk. I see a free spot but I offer him the seat. The bus takes off, I notice a woman with a bubble butt. Guess who else noticed? This old man was probably in diapers, he could barely move, but it seems his vision is fine for he stared at that bubble butt almost as if it was going to twerk anytime now.

 

My father has several friends working in public transportation. Sometimes when I go places with my father using the train, boat, bus, my father goes to visit them and these guys have one eye on the work they're doing and one eye on the women they find attractive(same goes for the women who work there and watch men going by).

 

My own college teachers are pushing 60's, are married, but that never stops them from admiring women. I remember joking with this foreign student, she was from Norway - a real knock-out -and I was telling her how the only men interested in her are 50 year olds. She laughed at it and agreed, probably used to male attention by now from all age ranges.

 

When I say they are admiring women, I mean they are extra nice to the women. They see me carrying a heavy load? Its fine, I can do it, despite that gear being heavier than me. Do they see the woman with her bag full of books?

 

''Do you need help with that?''

 

The only reason men bother with ''commitment'' comes from their fear of not having a steady income of female attention/sex. if guys came with terms with how sexual women are, instead of assuming women need a relationship to have sex, that women don't think of sex that much, I don't think there'd be that many relationships, which I don't see, honestly, amongst the college demography and even with my younger brothers who are in High school.

 

You honestly believe young men go to school, are surrounded everyday by beautiful women from all races and Countries and they don't think about having sex with them? I'm sure wealthy people prevent themselves from having what they want. Oh wait, I know shopping malls are closed when Brad Pitt wants to buy a hat.

 

I know David Beckham has millions of people trampling on each other for a chance to see Beckham. But somehow young men with the opportunity to have no strings attached aren't going to do it because of their morals.

 

Yes, these young women walk around with waxed genitals, their underwear for the world to see and a flirty attitude to go around on a daily basis because they're all someone's girlfriends and are looking for marriage!

 

That sure worked for that one girl who tried to get me to commit to her.

 

''I slept with 12 guys.'' A month later she realizes she has feelings for me, her sex count had gone down to 5.''

 

Hell, I don't care about that. To me 50 or 5000 is the same. I'm not interested in relationships. I've met virginal women who had a decent personality and looks, you think I'd want to spend the rest of my life with them? What for?

 

To be milked by the system? As soon as the couple enters co-habitation or marriage, the man's ability to break free from being exploited by the govt. is pretty much over.

 

Don't think for a second older women are out of the picture. Many times have I used the subway only to be leered by older women and yes, a few were attractive.

 

A few years back I met this Brazilian woman who was looking for marriage. Her dentist was handsome, but wasn't good at kissing. Another guy, this one worked as an engineer - was very tall but gave most of his money to his family. She was crossing high quality males left from right because of miniscule perceived flaws.

 

Yet, when I told her I was attracted to her discarded her laundry list of requirements and slept with me. Plenty of older women out there are having sex with young men while looking for some older guy with money/status/whatever to marry.

 

Most people are sexual creatures. Most relationships don't work. A long-term relationship is a relationship lasting 2 years. 2 years? What is that? My grandparents were together for 70 years. Nowadays the average marriage only lasts a handful of years and the rest of the marriages, those that ''work'' are probably sexless.

 

Unless you think going to prostitutes counts as a married sex life, which to many of the older men I've met in my lifetime seems to be in order if they want to have sex.

 

 

 

 

They don't have to, to be honest. You spend your entire day with these girls, they're eventually going to become horny. You're there, you smell decent, you don't look like a homeless or a troll? You'll do.

 

Sure beats going out on dates, paying for it, having to waste time and money shaving my face and putting cologne and going through the outdated ''getting to know her game.''

 

In college its mostly like this.

 

Are you attracted to her? Yes. Is she attracted to you? There you go. You don't even have to bother with learning their names. I only know one person's name in my class and that name is mine. I use 'bro,' 'son' 'babe' and 'MLF' when I want to talk to someone. Works fine.

 

 

 

 

 

What's your point? You don't need to dedicate your life to have sex. That's what PUA's do. College guys don't have to. Even the nerdy looking guys are attractive in their own way. PUA's are dysfunctional dudes in their 40's who need to get stoned to talk to women.

 

 

 

 

What part of ''you don't have to pursue women in college. You don't have to spend money on dates, hooking-culture ensures every man and every woman is presented with the chance to have sex without having to concern themselves with relationships.

 

Example: I was attracted to this one girl. She was in a bad mood, had something happen in her family so she was a bit crossy. I never talked to her again. She did came to me to explain how her brother was sick and she had no patience for anyone that day.

 

Not my day. There's always another woman who is as pretty or more attractive and who'll give me a good, enjoyable conversation. Had this girl been my girlfriend I would have had to console her, interact with her family, maybe even use my own money if the need was there.

 

Many, many young men are like this too. We see how drama and ''responsability'' ages the men who came before us. Not interested in going bald, thanks. Not interested in sleepless nights worrying about some girlfriend, Thanks. No interest in putting off my sexual life because she's not in the mood, thanks. And stop going over my college options, I'm not interested in working for your uncle as soon as I leave college, I don't need much to get by since I'm only going to work for myself.

 

The hook-up culture provides a relieve for the sexual needs of young men and young women. With that already sated, we can work on providing for ourselves the life we want(no bills to pay, no babies to craddle in the middle of the night, no dirty diapers to change, no 90 year old grandmother who doesn't have anywhere to go, better move her in, no sexless nights, no nagging and so forth).

 

 

 

Not really. College women approach the men they are interested. There's always a woman who is interested in you - at least sexually - to intiate a conversation. As I said I'm nothing to write home about and I've had women adress me by name even though I had no idea who they were. Since there's so many women going in and out, I can only memorize the names of a handful, the most attractive of them all(usually the tall, natural blonde students from Scandinavia and Germany).

 

That said, most of the women going to college are attractive. If that fails, spend a couple of days without masturbation. Every woman turns attractive. The next step is how friendly she is. If she can keep a conversation going I'll spend time with her, but the moment she's in a bad mood I'll move on.

 

I don't really care. There's more from where that one came from. Do I click more with one girl than with another? On Occasion. I usually stay away from those. Attachment is the source of all suffering.

 

 

 

Yeah? Try going to a mall. You see the men with the women's shopping bags and the women(usually quite attractive) sizing you up to see if you have what it takes $$$ to maintain their lifestyle, or go to a restaurant and see the average 17-30 year old couple with the guy paying for most if not all of the expenses.

 

 

 

Women don't look for relationships in college. Not until they are in their mid 20's and their looks begin to fade, that's when they start probing to see if you have potential on the long-term. As in, do you want to become a doctor? Do you want to have children? Those are also the women who make it hard for the guy to have sex.

 

They believe the man will see them as worthy of investment if they make the guy wait for sex. Little do they know that men eventually realize that the 25 year old good girl is the 18 year old girl who'd put out for guys she was attracted to without commitment.

 

 

 

Let me explain this again. In college, most women are attractive. And many aren't interested in relationships. It goes like this.

 

Attractive girl meets guy. She becomes interested in him. They have sex. She wants a relationship with him. The guy is not interested in being a slave. He meets another attractive woman as there's thousands upon thousands of women who are a possibility. Do you understand now?

 

There are attractive women in relationships but why bother with that when there are plenty of attractive women putting out for free?

 

 

 

No, they aren't. Women from my generation will go from guy to guy until they're either too old to be desirable or baby-rabies sets in and they now have little time to find a guy who has a decent job and is willing to settle down.

 

Seen it all the time. Personally, I've know this girl since I was 5 years old. She was fat as a kid but she lost the weight to get a boyfriend. She lived with some bad boy for 6 years, he never had a job and she payed for everything. She never got pregnant. She's now 25 years old, met a guy with a good job in France, bam. A month later she's pregnant. I see that the pill is becoming selective.

 

Women will disregard a guy for commitment if he's not serious about his future. They'll sleep with him, go out with him, be seen in public with him, and they won't expect anything from the guy. Nevertheless, if a woman thinks you have potential to become a good provider/husband, your sex life is pretty much dead and you'll have to prove yourself as a ''real man'' over and over.

 

This is why young men should come across to women as dumb as a rock. You don't want to give women any funny ideas.

 

This also reminds me of this one hot girl who was dating an ugly guy. Never understood that one. Oh yeah, a brand new audi, 2 jobs, his own house. Guy dumps her, sleeps with her sister and she remembers my existance.

 

''I'll date you if you get a job.''

 

Sure, let me think about that. And off I went to get drunk with my friends,

 

 

 

 

 

No, they aren't. What keeps young women from being far most vast in their sexual experiences is the choke-hold the Patriarchy has over young women. The older men want women to be as ''pure'' as possible. They don't want to know their future wives used to blow the college seniors.

 

The Church is also responsible in part for this. it wants to instigate young people to chain themselves down. Marry, have rug rats, become a slave to the system. Grow old and miserable. Thanks, but there's already one ''good man'' in the family, I'm not interested in becoming the second, and to my amusement, I haven't met one guy in college - even back in high school - who's interested in becoming Batman.

 

 

 

 

No, they don't. Its absolutely dependent on how old the woman is and what her options are. 18-24 year old women aren't in relationships and those who are happen to be in very nebulous relationships. They'll jump ship quickly. At age 25 a woman begins to think about her future.

 

Having a guy commits is essential to her plan to get married and have children. Which is why I tell guys to ask to see a woman's ID before doing anything. With the way the world is, so many women get pregnant on purpose and have the young man's lives ruined.

 

 

 

Women put out because they enjoy getting banged. Stay one night in the guys dorms, you'll hear women moaning and screaming most of the night. Women enjoy sex far more than men, they just pretend they don't to make the guy - who is in a relationship with them - work harder to get sex.

 

 

 

 

No.

 

The hooking-up culture is nothing of the sort. There are women who only give blowjobs. There are women who only give anal. There are women who only give HJ's and there are women who shun all that and continue to make-out with guys as if this was an extension of the 12th grade.

 

FYI(for your information): people in the hook-up culture aren't all strangers. In many cases you are friends with the woman and both of you have needs. Its called hooking up by convinence and they're usually the building ground for a FWB.

 

Damn son pace yourself.

[KathyM]

I can write a paper saying there's life on Mars and ask NASA to put their signatures on the paper, fake some 'proof' and volá. You've found your first Alien lifeforms.

I think articles written by people who've actually studied the topic, rather than some random internet guy stating his opinion, has more credibility.

Are you in college?

Yes. Just finished up the last of my classes this summer and am about to get my Master's Degree awarded.

Are you in daily contact with 18-30+ year olds?

Yes. All of my kids are in that age group. So are all of their friends. So are all of my nieces and nephews. So are many of my fellow students and co-workers. So are many of my clients.

Do you go out with them? Do you spend your lunch hour talking to guys about the girls they're sleeping with? Are you with the girls in their bathrooms gossiping about who has the bigger penis, who can last longer, who is dating material and who is good enough for casual hook-ups?

I'm a counselor. I hear about people's dating issues on a weekly basis. They tell me every detail, about who they hooked up with the past week, who they are in a relationship with, what their goals are in dating, and what their weaknesses are. I hear every detail about their sex life. It's part of my job to know everything about the person I am counseling. I have clients in many age ranges, from early twenties to 60 years old.

Have you ever talked to students from Europe, South America and Canada? Have you ever been to Europe? Do you think the people who come from Countries where women can walk around topless in non-nude beaches are going to be shy? Or how American women when visiting Europe sleep a lot with French, Swedish, and German men because they fit the women's criteria?

I've traveled to most countries in Europe. Some of my friends and relatives immigrated from there. Some still live there, and I visit them every few years.

The only modest students I've met so far - the ones who don't indulge in the hook-up culture - are the Asians. But I still see the occasional Chinese guy trying to get out of their hierarchy to try to date the girl he likes.

 

 

 

Is that so? Let me think about that one. I enter the bus. I see a guy who was pushing his late 80's, he can barely walk. I see a free spot but I offer him the seat. The bus takes off, I notice a woman with a bubble butt. Guess who else noticed? This old man was probably in diapers, he could barely move, but it seems his vision is fine for he stared at that bubble butt almost as if it was going to twerk anytime now.

I'm not denying that many men, most men, will notice an attractive woman that crosses their path. I'm just saying that they don't all act on it, and men are not solely focused on hooking up all day and night, like you were making it sound like.

My father has several friends working in public transportation. Sometimes when I go places with my father using the train, boat, bus, my father goes to visit them and these guys have one eye on the work they're doing and one eye on the women they find attractive(same goes for the women who work there and watch men going by).

I'm not denying that people notice attractive people that they come in contact with. Doesn't mean they always act on it or think of nothing else than satisfying their dick.

My own college teachers are pushing 60's, are married, but that never stops them from admiring women. I remember joking with this foreign student, she was from Norway - a real knock-out -and I was telling her how the only men interested in her are 50 year olds. She laughed at it and agreed, probably used to male attention by now from all age ranges.

 

When I say they are admiring women, I mean they are extra nice to the women. They see me carrying a heavy load? Its fine, I can do it, despite that gear being heavier than me. Do they see the woman with her bag full of books?

 

''Do you need help with that?''

 

The only reason men bother with ''commitment'' comes from their fear of not having a steady income of female attention/sex. if guys came with terms with how sexual women are, instead of assuming women need a relationship to have sex, that women don't think of sex that much, I don't think there'd be that many relationships, which I don't see, honestly, amongst the college demography and even with my younger brothers who are in High school.

You have a very skewed perception of men, and seem to think the only purpose men have for women is as sexual partners. Well, newsflash, men actually want women for factors that don't all revolve around sex. Contrary to popular belief, men actually want companionship with women. They want a commited relationship. In fact, 95% of men will want to get married at some point in their lives (U.S. figures). You sell men short when you think they are only interested in sex and nothing else.

You honestly believe young men go to school, are surrounded everyday by beautiful women from all races and Countries and they don't think about having sex with them? I'm sure wealthy people prevent themselves from having what they want. Oh wait, I know shopping malls are closed when Brad Pitt wants to buy a hat.

I never said men don't think about sex. I'm saying they are not walking dicks focused only on sex, and that is all they think about 24/7.

I know David Beckham has millions of people trampling on each other for a chance to see Beckham. But somehow young men with the opportunity to have no strings attached aren't going to do it because of their morals.

Some men are not into the hook up culture. I know a lot of men who are not interested in hooking up with random strangers, and are looking for an actual relationship. And the article posted previously would bear that out. You give too little credit to men, and lump them all into nothing but walking dicks. SOME men are nothing but walking dicks looking to stick it in anything and everything they can. Fortunately, there are many men who are not like this.

Yes, these young women walk around with waxed genitals, their underwear for the world to see and a flirty attitude to go around on a daily basis because they're all someone's girlfriends and are looking for marriage!

I'm not denying that some women dress slutty and are into casual sex. But you are saying that all single women are. That just isn't the case.

That sure worked for that one girl who tried to get me to commit to her.

 

''I slept with 12 guys.'' A month later she realizes she has feelings for me, her sex count had gone down to 5.''

 

Hell, I don't care about that. To me 50 or 5000 is the same. I'm not interested in relationships.

No kidding. You could have fooled me.

I've met virginal women who had a decent personality and looks, you think I'd want to spend the rest of my life with them? What for?

 

To be milked by the system? As soon as the couple enters co-habitation or marriage, the man's ability to break free from being exploited by the govt. is pretty much over.

You have some serious paranoia here. Seek counseling.

Don't think for a second older women are out of the picture. Many times have I used the subway only to be leered by older women and yes, a few were attractive.

 

A few years back I met this Brazilian woman who was looking for marriage. Her dentist was handsome, but wasn't good at kissing. Another guy, this one worked as an engineer - was very tall but gave most of his money to his family. She was crossing high quality males left from right because of miniscule perceived flaws.

 

Yet, when I told her I was attracted to her discarded her laundry list of requirements and slept with me. Plenty of older women out there are having sex with young men while looking for some older guy with money/status/whatever to marry.

 

Most people are sexual creatures. Most relationships don't work. A long-term relationship is a relationship lasting 2 years. 2 years? What is that? My grandparents were together for 70 years. Nowadays the average marriage only lasts a handful of years and the rest of the marriages, those that ''work'' are probably sexless.

Unless you think going to prostitutes counts as a married sex life, which to many of the older men I've met in my lifetime seems to be in order if they want to have sex.

Lots of faulty information you are expousing here. 95% of people are either married, were married, or want to get married at some point (U.S. figures). The majority (55%) of marriages will last for life. Studies show married people are happier than their single or divorced counterparts. Most married people ARE having sex, anywhere from a couple of times per month to every day.

 

 

 

They don't have to, to be honest. You spend your entire day with these girls, they're eventually going to become horny. You're there, you smell decent, you don't look like a homeless or a troll? You'll do.

 

 

Sure beats going out on dates, paying for it, having to waste time and money shaving my face and putting cologne and going through the outdated ''getting to know her game.''

So you're not at all interested in women for anything other than sex. Too bad. You miss out on many things women have to offer other than sex.

In college its mostly like this.

The article posted does not bear this out.

Are you attracted to her? Yes. Is she attracted to you? There you go. You don't even have to bother with learning their names. I only know one person's name in my class and that name is mine. I use 'bro,' 'son' 'babe' and 'MLF' when I want to talk to someone. Works fine.

So in other words, you dehumanize women, and only think of them as places to stick your dick. Well, get counseling. Your parents obviously didn't handle their job too well.

[Babolat]

Damn son pace yourself.

LMAO...I was thinking the same..10 posts in, and this...get ready LS....

[Moe'sTavern]

Not really. College women approach the men they are interested. There's always a woman who is interested in you - at least sexually

Are you sure this applies to all guys? Because I'm thinking it doesn't.

[phineas]

I was chatting with one yesterday, who went into a conversation about dick pics. How men send them to her..then, she asked me if I had ever done that. No, of course, and never will.

 

She continued with lots of sexual hints, even said "when WILL I see yours then?".

 

Again, this is not bragging. I get "you have such a refreshing profile on here" and within a few messages sex somehow comes up. Or I hear how they are put off buy all the rude, one liners they get, but later they somehow turn the conversation into sex.

 

And, I am amazed at how many profiles have bikini and/or cleavage shots. And then, THEY complain if a man has a photo with his shirt off......

 

2 years ago I would reply to those as, well, it's where I was then. Now, I skip over them as they are using their "assets" to sell me. I would rather see "more of you" in person, in due time.

 

Yep.

Experienced the same.

I also get requests for shirtless pics.

 

My response is always "you first" some comply some don't.

I do not send the dick pics.

They want to see that?

Movie night at my place.

 

Edit: almost forgot, had a married woman from online contact me a little while ago. she's just looking for something on the side.

I hear from her every once in a while.

She lives like 20 mins. away from me & contacts me tonight to tell me she'll be in the next city for work.

about 1.5hrs away this weekend and asked if I wanted to meet her out there for a drink.

I told her since we've never met, never spoke on the phone, & she still hasn't sent me pics the answer was no and if she wants to meet, it'll be local.

her response?

"oh" ROTFLMAO!

 

I'm not one of those desperate losers that will do anything to get laid.

Edited September 25, 2013 by phineas