Pocky Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 I see what you're trying to say, but it doesn't apply in all cases and is a rather broad generalization. I have had relationships with very few men, however all of them have been highly intelligent, lacking in money, rather average looking and according to today's standards of what is fat, about 20-30 lbs. overweight. Most of the men I've dated would be considered computer dorks or geeks. Hardly someone that would fall into your category of a "bad boy".
ConfusedInOC Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by alphamale I don't know, in the real world I see exceeding beautiful women with dominant and powerful males who are successful. They like to date and marry doctors and lawyers and senators and rich musicians, etc..... I don't see Pamala Anderson or Jessica Simpson hanging out with janitors and middle school teachers. This is the way of the world folks, wake up an look around. Men look for beauty and youth and women look for powerful men with money and status. Didn't Julia Roberts marry a cameraman? Don't assume all women of power and dominance are only attracted to the same. It's the person that matters, not what they bring to the table as far as wealth and power. For some that may be a deciding factor - during the divorce.
Author alphamale Posted December 6, 2004 Author Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by Pocky I see what you're trying to say, but it doesn't apply in all cases and is a rather broad generalization. Yes POCKY, see, there are some guys and gals out there that have a lot of positive qualities about them. But I will admit they are rare, maybe less than 3% of general population. I have know a few myself and these guys can treat women poorly cause they have so many women that are interested in them. If one woman does not do what they want or submit to their wishes they just dump them and move on to the next one. So when I talk about bad boys this is my definition. Not the harley-riding, pot-smoking, leather-wearing uneducated "bad dude" who's been in and out of prison.
ConfusedInOC Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by kooky Alphamale, first you say that only the beautiful women like powerful men and now you say it´s 99 %. In general I think women do tend to prefer a guy who is their equal while men would prefer a good-looking woman who is not too dumb over an intelligent women who is average looking. I'd prefer an intelligent woman who is average looking over a dumb bombshell every day of the week!
ConfusedInOC Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by zara But what do men do when faced with both? I do like to be the giggly girly (sorry, Moi ) and i really can fit the 'trophy' mould very well - that's what i get paid for. But i am also fiercely intelligent and capable, but why is it that this just does not compute with most men? So that they end up treating me as though i am stupid (becasue they wish i was) or resnting my inteeligence, or they get paranoid and jealous over my looks? Or maybe i should just give up on 'normal' guys and go find some of the rich and powerful alphamales i'm not attracted to? Normal guy right here. I am in great physical shape (work out 3x a week), high IQ, own a business, have lots of hobbies, play guitar, etc. I would love to be with someone my equal.
Author alphamale Posted December 6, 2004 Author Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by ConfusedInOC I'd prefer an intelligent woman who is average looking over a dumb bombshell every day of the week! I agree C.I.O.C, but why stop there. I mean, there are SOME very attractive women out there that are also smart. Not many but there are some. Just cause someone is attractive does not ALWAYS mean they are stupid. There are some lookers that have average intelligence too, so they're not DUMB or SMART but in between.
ConfusedInOC Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 Originally posted by alphamale I agree C.I.O.C, but why stop there. I mean, there are SOME very attractive women out there that are also smart. Not many but there are some. Just cause someone is attractive does not ALWAYS mean they are stupid. There are some lookers that have average intelligence too, so they're not DUMB or SMART but in between. But I don't *want* in between. Because to me, I want to discuss things on a "higher" level than the average person. I like discussing "intelligent design" as it relates to the universe. I like knowing little known facts about past civilizations and learning things on a daily basis that I can relate to my wife about. I want to be able to sit with her in bed at night and discuss things on a level that just isn't possible with your typical "dingy" woman. Much the same way a woman of intelligence wouldn't want to marry a dumb thug she can't relate to on a higher level. When it comes down to it, we need people who can challenge us, not just phsyically, but mentally and spiritually (well, at least I do spiritually). Wish I could find this combo. Thought I had it with my current g/f but it seems that she doesn't want to move forward with the relationship and I know why.
zara Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Originally posted by ConfusedInOC I want to be able to sit with her in bed at night and discuss things on a level that just isn't possible with your typical "dingy" woman. Much the same way a woman of intelligence wouldn't want to marry a dumb thug she can't relate to on a higher level. Confused - most people operate on a fairly shallow level and there are many men and women who cannot handle any kind of intimate relationship that has that higher level. People think it's 'too complicated' - but i want someone i can talk to too because after 20 years of marriage, you're goingto go damned crazy if you have one more conversation about the superbowl/ christmas decorations/ how you should cut your hair! I want someone i can share both fun and philosophy with, yet someone who will be equally happy to say "Baby, you look hot, let's go out and show you off!". And i want that someone to respect me. But it would seem that's a whole lot to ask...
tokyo Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Originally posted by zara I want someone i can share both fun and philosophy with, yet someone who will be equally happy to say "Baby, you look hot, let's go out and show you off!". And i want that someone to respect me. But it would seem that's a whole lot to ask... I want someone like this, too Someone who is fun AND intellectual.
zero_pistons Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 jesus you guys are soo right..ive been wasting my time as the nice guy for 19 years now........
zara Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Have you actually read all of the posts in this thread? - if you have then you will see that most people think alphamale has a pretty flat, simplistic and waaaaay off the mark view on these things. And sure if you want to attract the 'bul****' girls you refer to in your own thread then go right ahead and behave like an a**hole because you'll get what you deserve. I can think of many examples of cheating, lying, egotistical males who get lumbered with (and vice versa) emotionally unstable, psychopathic, stalking insecure females on their case and bering their children. I'm a great believer in karma.
zero_pistons Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 trust me ive tried the a**h*** thing...its not me i just cant do it...im not going to try it again....im just not happy right now.
moimeme Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 When it comes down to it, we need people who can challenge us, not just phsyically, but mentally and spiritually (well, at least I do spiritually). Oh dear. Well then, you're hooped. I'm in the same situation. Need a bright fellow who's also spiritual. Seems too many smart guys (not that there are that many to start off with anyway according to the stats) end up being fervent disciples of logical positivism. Convinced of the superiority of their thinking processes, they also regard folks who are spiritual as a little quaint, but deluded. Not really ingredients of a successful relationship Perhaps bright women might be somewhat less inclined to abandon spirituality - not sure. Anyhoo, good luck in your search. Zero - from the Soo! Good you've abandoned the 'being a jerk' plan. Stick with being a nice guy. It takes time to find the person that's just right for you. Keep on trying - it'll happen for you one of these days. Alpha's view on all this is twisted, IMHO. Don't let his philosophy warp you.
Author alphamale Posted December 7, 2004 Author Posted December 7, 2004 Originally posted by kooky I want someone like this, too Someone who is fun AND intellectual. Kooky: I know lots of "fun & intellectual" single men that cannot get a date if their life depended on it! Many women are not into these guys, especially the attractive women.
Pocky Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 I know lots of "fun & intellectual" single men that cannot get a date if their life depended on it! Many women are not into these guys, especially the attractive women. Since you're not a woman and you don't see through the eyes of a woman, in all reality you don't know why these men can't get dates. You may think they're fun & intellectual, but they may act completely different around women and you wouldn't really know that would you? I once went out on a date with a guy that I thought was intellectual and fun. When he got to my house on the first date, he took his shoes off and starting picking his toenails on my couch. I never dated him again. Go figure. MUST have been because he wasn't an a**h***.
zara Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Originally posted by alphamale Kooky: I know lots of "fun & intellectual" single men that cannot get a date if their life depended on it! Many women are not into these guys, especially the attractive women. Maybe that's becasue i can't find a fun, intellectual and attractive man.
Author alphamale Posted December 7, 2004 Author Posted December 7, 2004 Originally posted by zara Maybe that's becasue i can't find a fun, intellectual and attractive man. HA AHHhwh ah HA ha h a Ha.... yes zara, they are about as rare as fun, intellectual and attractive WOMEN!!!
moimeme Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 Shall we just have a misogynists' and misandrists' forum?
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