Lost561 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I have some female friends...apparently she's done her share of online dating and I told her about the recent woman I met, and she suggested I should bring a flower on the next date. Because, "Women just LOVE flowers!" And I told her, "No, YOU love flowers, that's something I don't do unless we start getting serious/exclusive" And she's like "Fine suit yourself" When I know for a fact it may actually sabotage things. Most women tend to be scared off if you attempt at romance TOO quickly. Thats just an example, but gentleman ever have women give youdating advice that made it seem a little "off" about their advice? YES that's why I don't listen to women's advice. I might listen to what they have to say about their preferences but not advice.
elmichi Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I have some female friends...apparently she's done her share of online dating and I told her about the recent woman I met, and she suggested I should bring a flower on the next date. Because, "Women just LOVE flowers!" And I told her, "No, YOU love flowers, that's something I don't do unless we start getting serious/exclusive" And she's like "Fine suit yourself" When I know for a fact it may actually sabotage things. Most women tend to be scared off if you attempt at romance TOO quickly. Thats just an example, but gentleman ever have women give youdating advice that made it seem a little "off" about their advice? Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I think a guy giving me a flower (definitely not a bouquet) would be trying too hard. *shrug* Unlesss it was Valentine's Day or if we had been dating AWHILE and he was planning on officially asking me out.
miss_jaclynrae Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 There are different sorts of women. I know I wouldn't be scared off with flowers on a first date... if anything it would be total brownie points. But flowers would never be a deciding factor. Anyways, as I said, some advice is great for the right person. Some advice is universal and some isn't. What do you lose by trying? A women who really likes you won't say no to a second date if you brought her flowers...
PinkInTheLimo Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 And I told her, "No, YOU love flowers, that's something I don't do unless we start getting serious/exclusive" Woman here and I totally agree. If a guy would bring me flowers before we actually have a relationship I would feel it's too much.
PinkInTheLimo Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Woman here and I totally agree. If a guy would bring me flowers before we actually have a relationship I would feel it's too much. Another thing since I am a very practical person. Suppose we meet for a second date. Normally this will not take place at my or his place. We will go for a drink, a walk, have something to eat, etc... So there comes the guy with a flower. Then I have to carry the bloody flower with me for the whole date and I'll tell you that with my foggy distracted head it's well possible I forget the flower somewhere. A or more flowers is nice when we are in a relationship and the guy comes to my place, so that I can immediately put them in a vase. I told you I am very practical.
Revolver Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 You don't ask a fish how to catch fish, you ask expert fishermen
soccerrprp Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I have some female friends...apparently she's done her share of online dating and I told her about the recent woman I met, and she suggested I should bring a flower on the next date. Because, "Women just LOVE flowers!" And I told her, "No, YOU love flowers, that's something I don't do unless we start getting serious/exclusive" And she's like "Fine suit yourself" When I know for a fact it may actually sabotage things. Most women tend to be scared off if you attempt at romance TOO quickly. Thats just an example, but gentleman ever have women give youdating advice that made it seem a little "off" about their advice? Interesting and sorry about getting into this discussion so late. But, when I dated, I did not bring flowers but to one woman. It is weird as I look back. Of all the women I dated, I only brought this one woman flowers from the start. Didn't bring flowers for any other woman I dated. Not what I saw in her that compelled me to bring her flowers, but not others. Yeah, I would have been hesitant about bringing flowers to women when first dating. But, I have some great female friends and a couple of them are exes. I've been getting amazing and spot-on advice from these ladies. They kept me in check and reminded me of what a moron I was being at times. They literally never gave up when I was prepared to....phew. I'm with a special woman right now partly b/c of their input. Oh, btw, the woman I'm with now is the woman I gave flowers to on every date. I still do send her flowers (in a LDR). SO, the flower thing definitely worked out in this case... Edited November 21, 2013 by soccerrprp
crederer Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I guess all that's been accomplished is that women can be complicated haha. I saw a screen cap of a FB message the other day. It was pretty funny. Girl: Girl's are not complicated. Seriously. How hard is it to say "you're pretty" and give us chocolate? Guy: DON'T EVEN START THIS SHI*T WITH ME, BRO. WOMEN ARE LIKE JENGA CROSSWORD PUZZLE RUBIX CUBES STRAPPED TO A TERRORISTS CHEST WHO IS SCREAMING AT YOU IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE! Thought it was funny and kind of applied to this thread.
TB Rhine Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Girl: Girl's are not complicated. Seriously. How hard is it to say "you're pretty" be casually abusive, emotionally unavailable, constantly undermine our sense of security and self-esteem, and give us chocolate maybe slap us around a little bit for good measure? Bonus points for slapping our kids. Fixed that for ya.
greenfairie Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Flowers are amazing. I seriously wish someone would give me a flower each day of the year. day. I think that adds to my requirements I must have in a future husband how can you say no to flowers too!???
Addison312 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Give her the flower(s). On a first date with my current bf (OLD), he told me he had a small gift for me, but didn't bring it because he didn't want me to think he was crazy buying me something before we had even met. In my OLD profile, I stated I adore a specific animal and would love one as a pet. Well, he ended up giving me the gift on the third date - a stuffed aforementioned animal - and I thought it was very sweet. I knew he wasn't like other guys at that moment. 1
BlametheIrish Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I personally don't like cut flowers and I really dislike roses but I'd appreciate the guesture none the less. 1
GravityMan Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Whether it's "appropriate" to give flowers depends on so many variables... - Timing, and proper timing can itself vary - Who you are. If you're not much of a natural romantic or are otherwise "dry", then giving flowers is probably not a good idea. High risk of the gesture coming off awkward, fake or try-hard. Perhaps flower-giving just ain't your cup of tea. - Who she is. True, many women like flowers. But not all women like them, and some only like certain kinds of flowers and/or flower arrangements. She might appreciate the thought behind giving the flowers, but still there is increased risk of awkwardness. There are other options than flowers. Get to know her a bit first. But don't overthink this. Sometimes it's best to just go with what feels natural. Overthinking this (and almost anything else in dating) creates unnecessary anxiety and is akin to shooting yourself in the foot.
Imported Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I have some female friends...apparently she's done her share of online dating and I told her about the recent woman I met, and she suggested I should bring a flower on the next date. Because, "Women just LOVE flowers!" And I told her, "No, YOU love flowers, that's something I don't do unless we start getting serious/exclusive" And she's like "Fine suit yourself" When I know for a fact it may actually sabotage things. Most women tend to be scared off if you attempt at romance TOO quickly. Thats just an example, but gentleman ever have women give youdating advice that made it seem a little "off" about their advice? I take advice I hear from women about what will work on them with a grain of salt. However, women do usually like flowers. I have given girls flowers and it has never sabotaged anything for me. I do notice though, that there are some guys, that no matter wtf they do......it always goes over wrong/badly. 1
Imported Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I'd like to try this. Buy a dozen flowers (no red rose) all different from each other. Must be in area with at least 13 girls, one of them being the one I want. I can be pretty charming in person....when I try. Go through giving away a flower to all the different girls/women there (this is the part where you need to be charming and exude happiness and hopefully infect all those around you with...happiness). Run out of flowers to give away just as I get to the girl I am actually interested in.
TB Rhine Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 If a girl is interested in you, I doubt a flower is going to make or break your chances. If she's NOT interested, is very ambivalent, or is just humoring you to avoid hurting your feelings, she will either be creeped out by the gesture or, depending on how generous she is, will merely feel embarrassed and sorry for you. If she's on the fence - i.e., not leaning appreciably in one direction or the other, assuming there even *is* such a state - I think it will be more likely to hurt rather than help. The simple fact is that some (read: many) women are attracted to aloof men. Giving her a flower is not aloof. It is a romantic gesture, rather than a sexual one; and as much as pop culture would like to convince us otherwise, I think that making romantic gestures before you've engaged physically with a girl almost invariably leads to failure.
elbe Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Thats just an example, but gentleman ever have women give youdating advice that made it seem a little "off" about their advice? Girl once told me to never call a woman "beautiful". I find this incredibly inaccurate.
strongnrelaxed Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Never give a woman a flower until well into the relationship. Flowers and candy are old outdated notions. Everything you do with a woman is secretly judged and judged very harshly. I have known women who were amazing, good, decent women who would only marry a "certain type" of man, but they also admitted to one night stands, dating bad boys, etc. You should never ever judge this. Men do the same. But you have to decide if you want to be the good boy type, the bad boy type, or no type at all and just be yourself. The problem with being yourself, the number one problem of all time for men (women admittedly have their own challenges with men) is that being honest and being yourself is a deal breaker for women. You read that right. Being honest with a woman will kill your chances. Why the hell do you think we shave, dress nicely, wear deodorant, get a haircut, open doors, and buy flowers. This **** is all fakeness and women love it in theory. They just do not desire you sexually for it. Romance is cute, fun, and enjoyable for both men and women. It makes like worth living - all those statues, paintings, poems and love songs. But only two things can keep a relationship alive in the long run - either biology, or deeply held values or both. Flowers have nothing to do with either. I would argue that if she is truly impressed by flowers, then you are with the wrong type of woman who is likely equally impressed by diamonds and other shiny things. 1
InnocentMan Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Girl once told me to never call a woman "beautiful". I find this incredibly inaccurate. I think she must have meant, you should never call a 'beautiful' woman, beautiful. They hear that **** 20 times a day, so it starts to lose all meaning. It's ok to call an average looking chick beautiful, because they don't hear it so much. Anything above a 7/10 requires a little more cunning and subtlety. Compliments need to be much more specific, like nice hair, eyes, shoes,style etc. The nirvana is finding something that she may be somewhat insecure about, and say something nice about it. I'm here all week..... Edited December 1, 2013 by InnocentMan 1
InnocentMan Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Fyi, taking a flower on a first date is beyond gay.
runningfar Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Fyi, taking a flower on a first date is beyond gay. That makes a lot of sense.
elbe Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Fyi, taking a flower on a first date is beyond gay. I would do this.. Making yourself vulnerable is a huge trust builder.. Unless she doesn't feel the same at which point you are about to get a huge slap in the face.
GemmaUK Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 I'm not keen on flowers - something which I do say to men I'm dating too. On a second date - as it won't be as either my place nor his then a flower would be too much but also something I then have to carry around all evening (as someone else also mentioned). The last guy I was dating sent some flowers to my work after we had been dating for 5 months. We hadn't been getting on terribly well - I didn't have as much free time in the day as he did and couldn't give him the attention he wanted. Anyway..back to the flowers...I had already said that I wasn't keen on flowers and wouldn't want them sent to my workplace (Valentines was just around the corner so I made this clear - I also don't own a vase - this he also knew). So...he ignored all that I had said and sent the biggest bouquet..box actually of flowers to my workplace. They were pretty..however..I don't drive and it's a mile and a half walk to work. (he knows I walk to and from work) The box of flowers was almost 3 ft high and I am only 5ft plus they came in a big box with about 2ltrs of water in a bag inside the box. I couldn't get them home that day (Monday) and couldn't get to a shop to purchase a vase either as I can only get to a shop that sells that kind of thing at weekends. I had to arrange a lift in the end to get them home and then had to just leave them in the box on the floor at my place. We don't have a garden waste collection where I live as it's communal maintained gardens and the gardeners deal with the waste and take it away themselves. The nearest garden waste place is in the middle of nowhere and impossible to get to without a car so when the flowers died I had to arrange for someone to take them away for me - I did try to bin them in the usual weekly waste collection but they refused them. I told him all of this and that flowers are not a good option for me - and said again that I just don't really like cut flowers - yet he did the exact same thing again on Valentines and on my birthday a few weeks later as well....even though I asked him not to each time.
Imported Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Trying to locate a bonsai flower tree like this locally. Amazon.com: Brussel's DT8045FF Fringe Flower Bonsai: Patio, Lawn & Garden I just think it looks cool and I would enjoy giving it to a girl. Along with my cock. Hopefully she like it.
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