bentleychic Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Don't forget washing the floors ... I like mine squeaky clean ! You must be a good girl and wash them with your tooth brush. I wash them with my old trampy revealing clubbing clothes b/c I'm under my boyfriend's thumb and have no reason to use my sexy clothes any more.
bentleychic Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Candie, I couldn't agree with you more. The part of this thread that's a little unsettling is the women you're directly contradicting: Oddly enough, she "liked" your post. Some people just make no attempt to think critically about their own behavior, so when they act in a way that's confusing or frustrating to others, there's no empathy. THIS I like to dress up sometimes as it makes a change from work clothes etc. it makes me feel good. is the part that I like about her post, darlin'. I don't dress up for people at the clubs. I dress up b/c it makes ME feel good. (I was joking about dressing up for other women, ftr.)
fanine Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Drunk and scantily clad at a club when she tells her boyfriend she is going somewhere else. You bet she's more likely to cheat. Errr so you are saying any woman with a partner who goes to a club lies to her partner about where she is? Yep once again some women may but you seem to infer that most women are 'up for it'. I don't know where you live and the people you know but certainly where I am and the people I know, it doesn't generally happen. I go out with the girls, he goes with the boys. I usually know where he is, as does he with me. I dont give him the third degree though on his whereabouts. We just have a bit of fun. We can't be tied to each others hips all the time. Doesn't mean when we are apart we are going to throw ourselves at other people. I know plenty of people like this... 1
candie13 Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Obviously we were posting at the same time. I agree with your points. For the record, if a guy was going out to clubs with his male friends, I suspect that women wouldn't think it was just a fun way for him to hang out with his friends. They would be nervous as hell. And, they would be equally justified as a man feeling nervous about his woman. Men aren't looking to enforce a double standard here. Although it hasn't been discussed in this particular thread, I think that women may be. it's not about a place, it's about intention. Bars and clubs don't make people cheat, they don't have the superpower of clouding people's minds. Assuming that my potential bf would have friends, he would go out and see them socially. Like in bars... and if he wants to meet women, bars or clubs... there's simply very little difference. However, is he's happy with what he's got at home, ain't no bar or club gonna "make him cheat". My ex loved electro music. I find it a bit weird. I've accompanied him to a few festivals, but honestly, I could have lived without that experience. It's him and his mates, drinking and dancing on that shyte. Made them happy. Made me happy to stay at home . 2
bentleychic Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Tell that to the men who have been lied to by girlfriends who went to clubs and had sex with a man she had just met. So he judges all women by them? Well that's special. I'm guessing he'll never be in a long term relationship again unless he finds a homebody that just likes to read and bake if he generalizes all women based on that.
fanine Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Candie, I couldn't agree with you more. The part of this thread that's a little unsettling is the women you're directly contradicting: Oddly enough, she "liked" your post. Some people just make no attempt to think critically about their own behavior, so when they act in a way that's confusing or frustrating to others, there's no empathy. I meant to like the second part! Look, I just feel there is nothing wrong with women going out with the girls and having some fun. I am a bit old for this nowadays, but still appreciate a night of female company. Sure there are some women who will go out there and cheat, but I just wanted to say there are also plenty of others who won't. They really just want some fun. Men and women are social creatures, which is the bit i wanted to like. I certainly don't go out in scantily clad clothes at my age. I never have tbh. I have never gone to a club to meet a man even in my younger years when single. I have never had a one night stand.
bentleychic Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Now its his fault for getting cheated on. Yes b/c that is exactly what I said. Too funny. Have a SPECTACULAR day, sweetheart.
fanine Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Tell that to the men who have been lied to by girlfriends who went to clubs and had sex with a man she had just met. Best tell that too to the women who have been lied to by boyfriends who went to clubs and had sex with a woman they just met. It cuts both ways really.
Succession Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 THIS is the part that I like about her post, darlin'. I don't dress up for people at the clubs. I dress up b/c it makes ME feel good. (I was joking about dressing up for other women, ftr.) How did you infer that I was addressing you? I don't see any connection. Nevertheless, here's some attention; enjoy. People don't dress up for themselves in private. To the extent they dress up for themselves, they are really saying they are dressing up for no specific person, but the public at large. How many discussions have there been here, and of course in real life, where people talked about a "power suit" or a "head-turning outfit?" I shake my head at the self-deceit that requires me to articulate this point.
xxoo Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 You know, I thought of the same analogy. But I dismissed it for several reasons. 1. Men go to sports bars to watch the game with fellow fans. It's like a cheaper, more convenient alternative to attending the sporting event live. Women don't go to clubs as an alternative to concerts, do they? 2. Men wear their sloppiest outfits at sports bars. Now, I'm not saying women wear their sexiest outfits to clubs specifically to get male attention. It is, perhaps, an unfortunate coincidence that the clothes they like wearing to clubs happen to be the same ones that attract the most male attention. 3. When I dress up, I like the fact that I get more looks and attention than when I wear sweats. Who doesn't like attention for being attractive? Why are the women in this thread arguing so hard that they don't have that natural human emotion? Why are you letting men make you feel guilty for it? Just say "yes, I like the attention" and get on with your life. 1. Yes, women go to clubs to enjoy the music and dance with friends. 2. The dress is venue appropriate. Would YOU wear sweats to a club? 3. Sure, we all enjoy looking nice sometimes. The problem is that it is interpreted as an attempt to get attention from men. Why do men assume everything women do is about them? A woman in a relationship can want to look good without it having anything to do with your attention.
bentleychic Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 How did you infer that I was addressing you? I don't see any connection. Nevertheless, here's some attention; enjoy. People don't dress up for themselves in private. To the extent they dress up for themselves, they are really saying they are dressing up for no specific person, but the public at large. How many discussions have there been here, and of course in real life, where people talked about a "power suit" or a "head-turning outfit?" I shake my head at the self-deceit that requires me to articulate this point. I ASSumed b/c I liked her post so I apologize for that. I got confused on which post you were referring to. I do dress up to make myself feel better. Sometimes I dress up nice and do full make up even if I don't plan to see anyone that day or to even go out of the house. It gives me a boost sometimes. And that's the God's honest truth. Has nothing to do with attention and more about trying to feel good about myself. 2
fanine Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 How did you infer that I was addressing you? I don't see any connection. Nevertheless, here's some attention; enjoy. People don't dress up for themselves in private. To the extent they dress up for themselves, they are really saying they are dressing up for no specific person, but the public at large. How many discussions have there been here, and of course in real life, where people talked about a "power suit" or a "head-turning outfit?" I shake my head at the self-deceit that requires me to articulate this point. I sometimes dress up when I'm at home....for no one.....because I just feel like it. Other days I may feel more like a sloth. Dressing up for me can mean a lovely vintage dress, not anything sleazy as such... It is true some women will wear very revealing outfits as that will get male attention. But I have never been the type of women to show off my tits and arse as to be honest I would not want that to give me attention. I would feel uncomfortable with it. I rarely even wear jeans. I like to look smart and well dressed as that is how I feel most comfortable. 2
Succession Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 My ex loved electro music. I find it a bit weird. I've accompanied him to a few festivals, but honestly, I could have lived without that experience. It's him and his mates, drinking and dancing on that shyte. Made them happy. Made me happy to stay at home . This is an unusual anecdote. I suspect 75-95% of men go clubbing/dancing with the primary intention of interacting with women. If you are claiming that the average woman would be no less suspicious about her SO going to a dance club with friends than a football bar with friends, I would doubt your honesty. 1. Yes, women go to clubs to enjoy the music and dance with friends. 2. The dress is venue appropriate. Would YOU wear sweats to a club? 3. Sure, we all enjoy looking nice sometimes. The problem is that it is interpreted as an attempt to get attention from men. Why do men assume everything women do is about them? A woman in a relationship can want to look good without it having anything to do with your attention. 1. If they put video screens on the walls and everyone stared at them and danced with that focus, you would be correct. Please tell me you recognize the difference in the social focus between clubs and concerts. That difference isn't as prominent between a sports bar and live match. 2. Indeed it is appropriate. And men at clubs wear their most mate-attracting clothes too. To the extent that venue appropriate clothing happens to also be clothing most likely to garner attention from the opposite sex, that's a funny coincidence, isn't it? 3. Men assume everything women do is to get their attention, and women assume the same thing. And they're usually right; it's kinda how we hung around the planet for the last few million years. 1
candie13 Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 This is an unusual anecdote. I suspect 75-95% of men go clubbing/dancing with the primary intention of interacting with women. If you are claiming that the average woman would be no less suspicious about her SO going to a dance club with friends than a football bar with friends, I would doubt your honesty. . you haven't been to those events. In Switzerland. Loads of men, little women. Weird locations, more industrial style, NOT sexy. I admit one or two DJs were worth the effort, though (to me, at least). If my guy wanted to cheat, he wouldn't wait until festival time. He'd pick girls up during his after work drinks. Temptation is literally everywhere, these days, one only needs to be lookin'.
truth_seeker Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 That's assuming the only reason women make themselves look good is for the benefit of men? Hardly. Plenty of women will get 'dolled up' because sometimes it's nice to get out of those sweats. Not for anyone else's benefit but for themselves. Who says they do it for the benefit of men only? They want to show up other women, too.
xxoo Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 1. If they put video screens on the walls and everyone stared at them and danced with that focus, you would be correct. Please tell me you recognize the difference in the social focus between clubs and concerts. That difference isn't as prominent between a sports bar and live match. The concert was your analogy, not mine. I said women go to enjoy the music and dance. And the fact remains that men could get together with friends in their living room and watch the game. There is no reason for attached men to be out teasing single women in sports bars. 1
xxoo Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Who says they do it for the benefit of men only? They want to show up other women, too. When I dress up, it is mostly because I don't want to stick out as the frump in the room. When in Rome, as they say....
candie13 Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 You must be a good girl and wash them with your tooth brush. I wash them with my old trampy revealing clubbing clothes b/c I'm under my boyfriend's thumb and have no reason to use my sexy clothes any more. oh no, I'll wash 'em with his tooth brush... and since there are no more sexy clothes... I guess we both know what that means ! 1
candie13 Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Who says they do it for the benefit of men only? They want to show up other women, too. oh, women are vain ! Some of my male friends are actually convinced most women dress up to impress other women . There is such thing as competition against other women, may they be friends or colleagues... even strangers - you know, the ambition to be the most stylish girl in the room, at a certain event. It's hard with women, you can never know what exactly it is that they're doing or why ... impossible to generalize, I say !
bentleychic Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 oh, women are vain ! Some of my male friends are actually convinced most women dress up to impress other women . There is such thing as competition against other women, may they be friends or colleagues... even strangers - you know, the ambition to be the most stylish girl in the room, at a certain event. It's hard with women, you can never know what exactly it is that they're doing or why ... impossible to generalize, I say ! Seriously. WOMEN don't even know what women think. Why would MEN try to assume that they know what women think? LOL
candie13 Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 yeah, it's a bit like the beauty and the eyes of the beholder
white Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Seriously. WOMEN don't even know what women think. Why would MEN try to assume that they know what women think? LOL I don't know what I'm thinking most of the time. I just assume everyone else is as lost as I am and go about my day. 1
Imajerk17 Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Soooo basically you're saying that once a woman is in a relationship with a man, she can't have fun with her friends anymore? Yep. Time to get ur azz in the kitchen, Taken Woman. And while youre at it make me a samwich. Chop chop!
xxoo Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Do single men even enjoy clubs? Music and dancing? I'm concluding that many single men only go to meet women, and once married figure they finally can just sit on the couch all night every night. Why else wouldn't they be with their woman at the club?
PJKino Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Forget women why would anyone want to go to clubs? Its usually alot of money to get in while waiting on a long ass line..get in wait on another long line to buy a 15 dollar drink while walking arounnd a a tight area with people bumping into you,music so loud you cant have a conversation with the person next to you because you cant hear them.. I never was a club guy at all..its basically a meat market thats the only appeal and why guys go but for my ugly ass it was just a waste of time and money because i wasnt getting women anyway.. Edited September 1, 2013 by PJKino
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