MrTurk Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 I dont understand why its so hard to get a woman that is at the same status or level I am in my life. I own a house, I have a good job, been there over 10 years, I have a newer style car, almost no debt, and still have money to enjoy hobbies..... Yet the only women that agree to date me are ones with some sort of financial baggage...or some long string of bad-luck, that she says has kept her from "getting ahead"....or the women in their 40's that "say" they are in the process of getting their degree...but then 30 mins later, they say how they are "taking time off right now". Yea, sure you are. In other words....I've worked hard to get where I am....so why do I get ignored by other women that own a house, have a good job, and make a decent wage?? I always attract the women with 100 excuses, and bad work ethic.
Divasu Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 so why do I get ignored by other women that own a house, have a good job, and make a decent wage?? My hunch, is that these types of women are more independent. If all you're finding are leechies, it's because well, they're not (independent). 1
Author MrTurk Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 My hunch, is that these types of women are more independent. If all you're finding are leechies, it's because well, they're not (independent). And it kind of proves my theory....that some/many? women tend to date "up" the ladder Which means the women on the same rung as me....ignore me...and are setting their sights on guys 2 rungs up
Divasu Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 And it kind of proves my theory....that some/many? women tend to date "up" the ladder Which means the women on the same rung as me....ignore me...and are setting their sights on guys 2 rungs up I don't know. Maybe. Where are you meeting these women?
TheGuard13 Posted August 16, 2013 Posted August 16, 2013 And it kind of proves my theory....that some/many? women tend to date "up" the ladder Which means the women on the same rung as me....ignore me...and are setting their sights on guys 2 rungs up Or other guys on the same rung. Or they already have a guy on whatever rung he came from. Or they are lesbians...or asexual... 3
Author MrTurk Posted August 16, 2013 Author Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) I've met all my gf's and ex wife through work or friends of friends. I've met some women through OLD, but never dated or had a relationship with them. Ex wife was divorced, on food stamps, 3 kids, part time job, going to college to be a nurse. A year after she got nursing job she was gone, married 5 yrs total. Women I dated before that all had issues, problems, etc. I try not to judge, and I dont mind helping out....but some people just cant be helped. And all the women I've met in person from OLD....they all have issues, problems with money, job, no car, etc, etc. Edited August 16, 2013 by MrTurk
BradJacobs Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Yet the only women that agree to date me are ones with some sort of financial baggage... And you believe that you deserve someone better, right?
Author MrTurk Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 And you believe that you deserve someone better, right? All I ask for is someone that is able to stand on their own two feet....and doesnt "need" assistance from me....rather chooses to hang out with me because she enjoys my company. I am not picky as far as looks....but as far as baggage goes, I am rather cautious.
gaius Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 If the only women who will date you are the ones who need you for financial support then for whatever reason women are interpreting that all you have to offer of value as a man is your financial support. 1
Adele0908 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 My question to you is... Do you want a relationship with a MAN... or do you want a relationship with a WOMAN?
Adele0908 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I've met all my gf's and ex wife through work or friends of friends. I've met some women through OLD, but never dated or had a relationship with them. Ex wife was divorced, on food stamps, 3 kids, part time job, going to college to be a nurse. A year after she got nursing job she was gone, married 5 yrs total. Women I dated before that all had issues, problems, etc. I try not to judge, and I dont mind helping out....but some people just cant be helped. And all the women I've met in person from OLD....they all have issues, problems with money, job, no car, etc, etc. I don't buy this. There a millions of successful single women out there. The truth is, you're not attracted to them. You're not really attracted to women who don't need you. You're attracted to the damsel in distress. And this is normal. All fairytales featured a damsel in distress rescued by the handsome prince on the white horse (or ship or car). If you want to understand yourself, watch some Disney movies. 1
Mrlonelyone Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 This is all about the gender norms we are taught as kids. We are taught that women are weak and fair and need to be rescued from the tower or protected from things. We are taught that men are to provide and be breadwinners etc. This goes beyond money to all sorts of things. It is the reason that a woman body builder who can bench 200 wants a man who can bench 400. It is the reason a woman who's 6'1" wants a man who's 6'7". It is the reason that a woman who is 200 lbs wants a man who's at 250 (and muscular). Even very successful women want to feel taken care of by their man so they look up the ladder/for taller men/for stronger men. They are the "little woman" and want to "feel safe and protected", or at least that is what they have been told they should want all their lives. Mr. Turk. The only way to get past that would be to re write hundreds of years of West Eurasian cultural history. Try to find a woman who will feel all of that about you and who at least doesn't have terrible baggage and who won't skip out of you the way that Ex wife did. I would say look for a much younger woman. They won't have been tested and matured by life... but they also won't have horrible baggage. Work within the rules if you can. Work the rules to your advantage.
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