I'm having a talk tomorrow about a pay rise

[UpwardForward]

He was pretty open about and he said he would do his best and would take care of it. I included some more suggestions which he also accepted. It's better than what I had thought even when he didn't give me exactly what I wanted.

 

What did upset me was something else. I had a talk with my co-worker a couple of months ago, asking him if he had talked with my boss or if I should talk to him myself and he said he had talked with him and had expressed his full support for the pay rise. It did sound as if he was actively supporting my case with my boss. Turns out, my boss did not know that he had been expected to do anything. I was like and he was the same. He had noticed that me and my co-worker had discussed some things, but he hadn't been approached to become active. I had sent my co-worker my job description which he was actually supposed to give to my boss and he didn't do it. I had agreed to be his substitute for four weeks and now for another six weeks and now I find out he had misled me.

 

People will lie, it's terrible - but I'm seeing a lot of it lately.

 

If your co-worker is not your superior in any way, it's best you talked to your boss directly.

[PlumPrincess]

People will lie, it's terrible - but I'm seeing a lot of it lately.

 

If your co-worker is not your superior in any way, it's best you talked to your boss directly.

He's the one in charge of what we do and he has a weekly meeting with our boss. I just assumed he would do it since I also had been quite clear how I felt about the situation. Personally, I do prefer to handle things on my own. And a couple of weeks ago, I did get this feeling that I should check on the situation myself. If I had hesitated, it's because I didn't want to pass my co-worker over and I didn't want to make him feel as if I didn't trust him.

 

It's just dawning on me that my impression that my boss didn't give a f*ck was due to the lack of any kind of positive feedback from my co-worker (but my boss *is* also sometimes someone who will noch back his own people). Now I realize my co-worker simply couldn't give me any response since he had failed to present my request properly to my boss.

 

It's a good thing I didn't really trust this whole thing and requested an appointment with my boss: "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark."

[Babolat]

I have a meeting with my boss tomorrow - I want more money! He's not exactly the one who can give me more money, but he can push and support my cause. But - I'm also pretty sure he's not going to do it (I know, I know, show him a list with the additional tasks that were added to your job, show him the results you achieved, etc, etc. I'm pretty sure he won't give a f*ck.). I should have also looked for similar positions, check out their offers and show him what my worth on the market is, but well, I haven't managed to do that.

 

So, how should I proceed tomorrow? Let's assume he does pretend that he wants to help me. I guess, a good idea would be to ask him for a time line? And if he refuses, should I say that I then would go and look for a different position in my company? Or should I just smile, thank him and send out new applications the moment I leave his office?

 

I coached my ex-wife on this. Walk in with a salary survey from a reputable source, outline and show what you have done to go above and beyond your job duties/descriptions, hint about looking elsewhere, mainly to get an idea on salaries.

 

Be prepared for differnt things, like a bonus instead of a raise, better compensation beneifts, etc. She walked out with a raise and an annual bonus.