tbf Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Women who are fertile are attracted to men with high levels of testosteroneYou've neglected to factor in hormone based birth control which offsets the fertility/high testosterone trigger where the majority of women are on hormone based birth control.
Pyro Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Honest question for women here. Is there any truth to the view that women crave bad boy sperm while looking for betas to raise and support the kid? It is a fear me and a couple others have. Fixed it for you
Divasu Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 You've probably said the most reasonable thing here after all of these pages, Diva. And I'll expand a bit on that. It takes 9 months from conception to birth. Chances are that if you and your girl had issues, they've been going on way before this. If there's massive problems in this relationship, and you genuilely are wondering if it's yours, just go get tested. Because adding a child to an already strained relationship will really challenge things. It is infinitely better to get that done, and put your questions to rest, and risk the relationship falling apart. As opposed to letting your present resentment build and progress to hatred towards everything in the relationship, including the child. The line isn't solid or fine. But if you GENUINELY feel you have probable cause, just get it done. However, don't add undue stress if you feel deep in your heart that it is yours. Mr. Nate. In those types of situations, you know very little about the other person, so it would make sense and seems pretty reasonable. Someone you've been with for a long time, boyfriend, husband, etc., totally different dynamics. Unless of course, you suspect your spouse is cheating on you, which is a whole other set of circumstances as you've pointed out. 3
MrNate 2.0 Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Honest question for women here. Is there any truth to the view that women crave bad boy sperm while looking for betas to raise and support the kid? It is a fear many men have. Why would a woman go through all of this to begin with? This just seems unnecessarily tedious.
Woggle Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Hahahahahah! "Crave bad-boy sperm!" :lmao::lmao::bunny: Good times. The ridiculousness is sublime around here! How so? Many men really do fear this.
MrNate 2.0 Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Mr. Nate. In those types of situations, you know very little about the other person, so it would make sense and seems pretty reasonable. Someone you've been with for a long time, boyfriend, husband, etc., totally different dynamics. Unless of course, you suspect your spouse is cheating on you, which is a whole other set of circumstances as you've pointed out. Exactly, beautiful. If there's problems, just act on them. If the relationship has been sketchy, and a child is coming, just get the test done. However, the S.O shouldn't automatically become suspected of whoredom conveniently right when she became pregnant. 1
tbf Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 This entire thread and its premise are quite funny considering how it's possible for the man to test the child or children, without maternal permission. 1
Woggle Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 This entire thread and its premise are quite funny considering how it's possible for the man to test the child or children, without maternal permission. It's not that. It's about the complete lack of empathy some women have for men's feelings.
Divasu Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Honest question for women here. Is there any truth to the view that women crave bad boy sperm while looking for betas to raise and support the kid? It is a fear many men have. Well, maybe not in the way you've framed it (ie: bad boy sperm vs. good boy sperm..? ) But yes. There are cases of women who cheat on their husbands, boyfriends, whichever, and become pregnant by another man. I'm not sure how common it is, but, I've seen and read enough non-fiction documentaries on it to know that it does in fact exist. The extreme cases, are women plotting to have their significant other murdered. Extreme cases Woggle, there is a difference and it is not the norm.
Woggle Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 It's common knowledge that bad boy sperm is sweeter than beta sperm. Everyone knows that. I can't tell if you are serious or joking. 2
Maleficent Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Honest question for women here. Is there any truth to the view that women crave bad boy sperm while looking for betas to raise and support the kid? It is a fear many men have. Why on earth would we go through all this trouble?? 1
Pyro Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 I can't tell if you are serious or joking. She is serious. Women are evil
GorillaTheater Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 I'm tryin', Dude! Where can I get me some of that BadBoySperm right away!!!! I crave it so! It's common knowledge that bad boy sperm is sweeter than beta sperm. Everyone knows that. Sorry ladies. I'm taken. 4
MrNate 2.0 Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Why on earth would we go through all this trouble?? If you find out this answer, please let me know.
ScreamingTrees Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 What is the big deal? I get the logic on why a man would want one since there is no complete control over DNA like for the woman. I have NEVER understood the desire to only be attached to offspring that share my DNA but do know that it is special class who will adopt. If you want it, be true to that from the beginning of dating, and own it. I don't think it is here or there then and it isn't about the woman at that point. It is just about an expectation you have in dating/marriage/reproducing. Well, I'd suppose regardless of how you'd feel, if you were led to believe one thing (that the child is yours) and it turns out that it's another's under the guise of a supposedly "monogamous" relationship, you'd be pretty pissed, no? I don't really trust anyone. People can fool around, doesn't matter how attractive they are or how well they seem to get along. I'm sure there have been Angelina Jolies of this world who've cheated on Brad Pitts just for the sheer thrill of it or whatever's going on in their twisted lizard brains. Who knows. I'd rather be sure, honestly. Don't care how long I'd known them, I've known plenty of people who slowly but surely revealed their true dirty colors over time.
Maleficent Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 And where exactly you took the latter part from? What else is it supposed to mean if you're asking for a paternity test?
Divasu Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Walmart offers bad boy spermicide to shield against this problem. I suggest some of you men go out and buy some for your womenz. 2
tbf Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 what is it like having the world revolve around you?This is perfect and is the underlying issue in this thread. It's perfectly okay for the center of the universe to demand anything from their partners like pat tests but not okay for anyone to refuse. If you refuse or get upset by these demands, you lack empathy. It's the base premise for BPD. Perpetual victimhood where everyone is at fault or responsible for your feelings even though you were the person that started the negative cycle. 1
ScreamingTrees Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Ahahahahahahahaha. You would demand a paternity test on the basis that some women cheat, and you say women have no empathy for men's feelings. Tell me Woggle, what is it like having the world revolve around you? I'd imagine it must feel pretty damn good. Folk's opinions such as yourself probably don't matter so much.. If I ever decided to ask someone, I'd have to not trust them in the first place. But if they wish to refuse or break away from me, I'd just assume I was right and they're attempting to save face or something. Meh. I'd shrug it off pretty quick.
GorillaTheater Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Mr. GT! I'm so glad you're here! You … think you have a passel of children. Have you ordered DNA tests on them to make sure they're all yours? Assuming you have, since I'm learning that this is the "norm" for guys, how was your wife with this whole thing? Or, maybe it just doesn't pertain to you. Since you were able to provide the much craved "BadBoySperm" and your wife did not need to hunt outside your marriage to obtain it? I don't know, I get some of the guys' fears to a certain limited extent. Few things would stick in a man's craw more than being compelled through government power to support another man's child for 18 or more years. It DOES go beyond a mere injustice and starts tugging at some primal fears. But just like anything some folks are given to wildly overreact. I haven't for a moment doubted any of my kids' paternity. I wonder how many of the guys who are for across-the-board paternity testing are even fathers.
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Serious question: maternity tests, yes or no? 1
GorillaTheater Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 Serious question: maternity tests, yes or no? I was there for all of my kids' births, so I'm probably good without it. 2
Maleficent Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 So asking for a paternity test means lack of or incomplete trust? But what exactly is wrong with it? I can't even trust myself 100% all the time, how can I expect it from other one? How am we supposed to get pregnant from someone else without sleeping with them???? 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 No, because there is not a great realistic need for them. The cases of mixed babies or stolen eggs are so small as to not warrant it on a regular basis. I don't know, I can imagine a situation where I'd be like "you know, maybe I cheated once, and then I stole the fertilized eggs from the woman I cheated with and implanted them secretly into my wife so she could give birth to a child that wasn't her's". I know I can't be the only one who's had this thought. Not that I'd do it consciously, but accidentally. Like I got amnesia and forgot where I was or something...
Maleficent Posted August 10, 2013 Posted August 10, 2013 That's not something your partner can know for certain. Heck, even you cannot in some extreme cases (eg. getting roofied). So he has to trust you. But what's so bad about not fully trusting somebody? I never got it. If I got roofied, I would know. Also it wouldn't be cheating it would be rape You are taking a situation and pushing it to extremes just tp prove your own point.
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