JustJoe Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 I'm not sure why you're taking issue with me telling the OP she doesn't deserve to be treated like ****. Oh wait, I think this may be why: It's notable to me that you're willing to consider the possibility that she was raped, but then also say that nobody forced her. It looks like you're suggesting that the possible rape was her own fault because she had too much to drink. So you do think she deserves to be treated like ****, even though a possible rape may have occurred, because she asked for it? Is that what you're saying?First off, never put words in my mouth that I didn't say. My issue is with you vilifying this poor betrayed guy, who found his gf f**king another man , yet HE is in the wrong? And for what? Losing his temper a little? The OP said that he said a few choice words, so she doesn't deserve it by her conduct? You gas him for a few words yet seem all too willing to believe the word of this girl? Why is that?
CC12 Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 First off, never put words in my mouth that I didn't say. My issue is with you vilifying this poor betrayed guy, who found his gf f**king another man , yet HE is in the wrong? And for what? Losing his temper a little? The OP said that he said a few choice words, so she doesn't deserve it by her conduct? You gas him for a few words yet seem all too willing to believe the word of this girl? Why is that? I didn't put words in your mouth. Read my post again, if you'd like. I was asking you if I had correctly interpreted your post. Also, I never vilified the boyfriend. I feel like you're maybe intentionally misunderstanding me because you want to have an argument. You seem to have reacted emotionally to one small part of my post where I expressed my opinion, and you've been weirdly aggressive in questioning me on that one point ever since. It's boring.
Suave Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Pshh, some "good friend" this guy was. I had a friend that was like this. He was clearly into my ex for years when we were together, then immediately tried to sleep with her after we broke up. Some people have no morals. 1
JustJoe Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 I'm not sure why you're taking issue with me telling the OP she doesn't deserve to be treated like ****. Oh wait, I think this may be why: It's notable to me that you're willing to consider the possibility that she was raped, but then also say that nobody forced her. It looks like you're suggesting that the possible rape was her own fault because she had too much to drink. So you do think she deserves to be treated like ****, even though a possible rape may have occurred, because she asked for it? Is that what you're saying?Why are you minimizing her cheating, but berating her betrayed BF because he cussed her out? Which, under the circumstances , seems pretty tame , considering that he caught her in the act. This OP, by her own admission, engages in binge drinking until she blacks out, so she cannot blame others for her risky behavior . You must also remember that in her opening post, she NEVER mentioned rape , but only did so , AFTER, another poster mentioned it. In her opening post, she positively said that her BF was mad at HER. If she was being forced to have sex with the OM, do you think that would be the case. Plus, she, nor her BF have done a single thing to prove it was rape. Not call the Cops. Take her to hospital. Get her tested for drugs......nada. There is simply no evidence that this was anything other than consensual. Due to her very poor boundaries regarding other men, and alcohol. I admit the possibility of rape but from her story, it is a remote possibility. after someone else
JustJoe Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 I didn't put words in your mouth. Read my post again, if you'd like. I was asking you if I had correctly interpreted your post. Also, I never vilified the boyfriend. I feel like you're maybe intentionally misunderstanding me because you want to have an argument. You seem to have reacted emotionally to one small part of my post where I expressed my opinion, and you've been weirdly aggressive in questioning me on that one point ever since. It's boring.Not aggressive at all. I disaagree with your interpretation.
therhythm Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 The more likely scenario based on her own admissions is that she consented to the sex, and just does not remember it. Alcoholics that have built up a high tolerance will have entire conversations, drive, walk, and particpate in numerous activities with others and then are simply unable to remember the next day. Blackout does not mean passed out. Blackout does not mean stumbling, falling, unable to talk. It simply means that the person has no memory or a fragmented memory of that particular block of time. Medical professionals and law enforcement can easily recount stories of people blowing .32 BAC and talking & walking just fine, only to have them sober up and have no memory, even though they were able to carry on full conversations with doctors & cops during that time. They have built up such a tolerance to alcohol that their speaking & motor skills are minimally affected, but the alcohol blocks the brain's function that transfers short term memories to long term memories. It is believed that the memories are still there, just inaccessible. As long as the person consumed the alcohol of her own free will, consented and particpated in the act of sex, it would not be considered rape simply because she did not remember it. If she was passed out drunk and unable to consent, that would be a different story, but that doesn't sound like what happened here. Honestly I thought this was a thread killer
sillyanswer Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 I am almost positive I was slipped something at the bar. Since this happened last night, get to the police station now and report what happened. They may be able to arrange for a doctor to take a blood and/or urine sample that could be tested for some of the obvious things that you could've been given. But don't delay, otherwise it'll be gone from your system. The other thing you need (yes, need) to do is get on some sort of alcohol awareness program. I'm not saying you need to totally quit (but maybe you do) but it sounds like you may need help in keeping it to safe levels of consumption.
JustJoe Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 The more likely scenario based on her own admissions is that she consented to the sex, and just does not remember it. Alcoholics that have built up a high tolerance will have entire conversations, drive, walk, and particpate in numerous activities with others and then are simply unable to remember the next day. Blackout does not mean passed out. Blackout does not mean stumbling, falling, unable to talk. It simply means that the person has no memory or a fragmented memory of that particular block of time. Medical professionals and law enforcement can easily recount stories of people blowing .32 BAC and talking & walking just fine, only to have them sober up and have no memory, even though they were able to carry on full conversations with doctors & cops during that time. They have built up such a tolerance to alcohol that their speaking & motor skills are minimally affected, but the alcohol blocks the brain's function that transfers short term memories to long term memories. It is believed that the memories are still there, just inaccessible. As long as the person consumed the alcohol of her own free will, consented and particpated in the act of sex, it would not be considered rape simply because she did not remember it. If she was passed out drunk and unable to consent, that would be a different story, but that doesn't sound like what happened here.This is exactly what I believed happened to the OP. I have seen it before .
JustJoe Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Since this happened last night, get to the police station now and report what happened. They may be able to arrange for a doctor to take a blood and/or urine sample that could be tested for some of the obvious things that you could've been given. But don't delay, otherwise it'll be gone from your system. The other thing you need (yes, need) to do is get on some sort of alcohol awareness program. I'm not saying you need to totally quit (but maybe you do) but it sounds like you may need help in keeping it to safe levels of consumption.The OP says she can't remember anything, BUT she CAN remember being slipped saomething? I call bu88sh*t on this kind of selective memory. If she truly blacked out , how is this possible? She is just using the rape scenario as an excuse for her own issues.
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