nescafe1982 Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 When I was a waitress/bartender I would flirt in a variety of ways to get better tips. And yeah, I might have written a thing or two on checks to get a rise out my male clientele (I worked at a sports bar). Why? Because it works. In my restaurant the flirty girls made twice as much as the ones who didn't flirt with the guys. Of course, I also had a male roommate at one point who, every time we went to the bar, he would give the waitress his order and beam triumphantly as she walked away, "she wants me." Groan. Long story short? If a waitress flirts with you, don't read into it. Now, if she writes her phone number on your check... well then, you've got something there. 1
nescafe1982 Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Also, unless you're in the American Midwest, 15% is widely seen as a cheapo tip. My rates were between 18-25%, but I was in the city. 1
Simon Phoenix Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) She's into you. The fact that she wrote that says so. I would've have written on the merchant receipt copy - "Stud's number: 555-1234. Call me ;)" No waitress is writing notes on receipts to customer's just to get a tip. Yeah, this is completely wrong. Most times I've ever been to a Hooters, a Chili's, or any restaurant of that ilk I've gotten messages on my bills from waitresses. Either I'm an uberstud (would be nice, but that's not exactly accurate), or the waitresses are looking for a bigger tip or for me to come back. Edited August 4, 2013 by Simon Phoenix
Simon Phoenix Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) The "handwritten note" is definitely a tactic being used by corporations to try to personalize the customer experience a bit more, usually in a patently dishonest manner. It's also common practice to hire pretty girls as wait staff and hostesses. We all know the formula. HOWEVER, she may have been attracted anyway. Believe it or not, women find attractive men attractive, even while they are working. A shocking realization to some, apparently. Ideally, he would have made his move at some point during that first visit. But, he can easily go back and see her again (assuming she still works there). It would suck hard though if he got a second server who wrote him the same note on a second visit, lol. Meh, she probably has a boyfriend and doesn't really give a sh*t. I think he did fine to do nothing. If he goes back and she's all over him (especially if he's not in her section), then maybe. But I'd say 99 percent of the time she's just doing her job. I actually made the leap and asked out a flirty waitress once. Didn't quite go in my favor, but I didn't really care. Was fun just to try. Edited August 4, 2013 by Simon Phoenix 2
StanMusial Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Waitresses are hired guns man. Their entire job depends on being nice so they can get extra money. Me and some of my friends have all tried to smoothly pass a waitress our number but in talking to someone who's dated a waitress, they come home with a pocket full of numbers and throw them out without looking at them. Or complain about the creeper who comes in frequently and gets upset that she isn't paying attention to him. She's there doing her job, which includes interaction with other tables/customers - don't read anything into it. I think I have posted this before but I'll post it again. If you really like this girl, try to work some angle where you can talk to her outside of her job. Maybe she meets up with a gf(s) after her shift or something to go have a drink or something and you could meet up with her there. That's just an example, it's up to you to figure it out. 1
Simon Phoenix Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 A friend of mine dates a waitress at a bar we frequently go to. He was a regular customer, she thought he was cute so she invited him out to hang out with her and a bunch of the other waitresses. And that's how it went down. If she's interested, she'll let you know in a lot more obvious way that writing a canned message on a bill. 2
New User Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 No not at all. Unfortunately yes so I just got a bj from your mom instead. Classy. But at least you didn't go with a worn out and cliched insult.. Oh, wait. Skilled trolls are subtle- so you can add trolling to the list of things you suck at.
New User Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 Can I add my dick to the list of things your mom sucks at? Well, at least you're consistent with your inability to be original. Your troll game is somewhere around a D-. I'm guessing that goes for your game in other areas to.
New User Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 First off, how exactly does being 25 years old and 6,1 at 190 lbs make me a chubby old fat dude? For the record losing weight isn't my priority in working out...My priority is gaining definition, I've been in shape for several years now and have never been ''fat'' in my whole life. Secondly where do you get off projecting all this bull$hit onto me? What have I ever done to you? I asked a simple question and you've managed to insult me calling me ''fat'' and a ''cheapskate'' and even ''gay'' on multiple occasion's throughout your post. I can only assume that you feel this way because of my tip...Well I'm sorry if Its frowned upon to give the STANDARD 15% tip on a meal, Her service as a waitress was very AVERAGE...Not bad...But not great...Therefore she gets the AVERAGE tip. Are you so miserable with your own pathtic life that all you can do is insult someone you know absolutely nothing about? Just so you know- this is pretty much exactly the reaction that troll boy is hoping for.
StanMusial Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 It's so obvious to everyone that you've never had attractive waitresses and hostesses flirting with you or attracted to you. No need to project your anger and frustrations onto the OP. Huh? LOL. I posted what I heard my ex-gf complain about... I have seen little notes on my check plenty of times, I don't give it a second glance. Don't take my word for it, ask a waitress or barkeep sometime. 1
nescafe1982 Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 It's so obvious to everyone that you've never had attractive waitresses and hostesses flirting with you or attracted to you. No need to project your anger and frustrations onto the OP. No, actually StanMusial's comment about creepers is spot-on. I can think of more than a couple regulars who came to my establishment to hit on waitresses they were *certain* were into them. It happens. I don't know if it is what's happening in this case, but it very, very common. Actually, come to think of it, how much those creepers are tolerated is directly correlated to how well they tip. We had lots of 'em that would come in, flirt with the girls, and leave $20, $30, $50 a pop, and their awkwardness was seen as lightly benign. Then there was this one crew of dudes (Marines, no doubt) who would camp for hours trying to hit on the waitresses and tip a measly 12-15%... guess how many of our girls liked them? I think if OP is interested in talking to the girl, he should ask her out... but be fully prepared for a No. Because although there are exceptions, nearly all the time a flirty waitress is just that. 1
Mycteria Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 I considered leaving an exceptionally high tip, but in the back of mind I didn't want to leave something to excessive just in case she was trying manipulate me into leaving something higher than normal, that would just leave me feeling like a gullible idiot. And also I didn't want to come off as if I were trying to buy a date from her. I'll admit however to being a tad on the stingy side though. Waiters and Waitresses really have to impress me alot to earn that fat tip from me. You didn't have to leave an "exceptionally high" tip, just a little extra. For the record, the standard tip is 20%, especially in nice restaurants. I work in a steakhouse and I consider a customer relatively cheap if they leave 15%. I would say 90% of my guests leave at least 20%. I don't say this to start an argument about what is an appropriate tip or some debate about what servers deserve, I'm just stating the facts, and the fact is that she probably will remember that you were a bit cheap, which might impact your chance of success, should you decide to go back and leave a number. Just trying to provide some insight for you! 1
tbf Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 For the record, the standard tip is 20%, especially in nice restaurants.No it's not, even in fine dining. It's 15 - 20% for good service. So if someone leaves you 15%, it's still considered a reasonably good service tip. 1
Simon Phoenix Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 15% is an acceptable tip. You shouldn't look down on someone for giving that. I try to give 20, but 15 is fine.
Trimmer Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 No it's not, even in fine dining. It's 15 - 20% for good service. So if someone leaves you 15%, it's still considered a reasonably good service tip. Yeah - I was wondering if things had changed since . . . . my whole life.
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