Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 Not here they're not . Sicilan chicks are though , must be where I get it from. Italy was tied for 4th according to that survey. Never been to Italy though.
MrCastle Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 You will have no problems. Aww what a sweetheart you are @Socal -- Brazil is on my list! England, France, Spain, Brazil -- one of those will be my destination 1
Dread Pirate Roberts Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 I'm not sure why this is, but I found that ignoring the hottest girls gets their attention. I'm not referring to the moderately pretty, but rather the top of the line. With average and even somewhat above average girls, you can generally tell when they're into you. The signs, more often than not, are there. The hottest ones though usually act completely cold, distant, and aloof. This actually goes back a few years to one of my old jobs. Most of the girls there were nice and had no issue talking to me. They said hello, asked me how I was, and there were no problems. However, the two hottest ones there completely ignored me. I didn't take it personally. I just gave them the same treatment right back. Not long after I left the job, I ran into one of the girls who was friends with one of the hot girls. She was telling me that was she was interested, so I told her that she was cold, distant, and aloof. Those are masculine traits, not feminine. Point being is a woman possessing those traits is self-defeating. I would have gone out with her if she wasn't like that. No one wants an ice queen. I wouldn't necessarily say those are masculine traits. I'm not aloof and I am very open. That does happen though. One time I was aloof, not because I was being a jerk on purpose, but because I had lost my mom's wedding band somewhere and this girl was trying to talk to me and I was in a ****ty mood. I basically ignored her and the next time she talked she was all over me. I did not plan that to happen, it just did.
Divasu Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Aww what a sweetheart you are @Socal -- Brazil is on my list! England, France, Spain, Brazil -- one of those will be my destination I look out for my peeps. 1
sweetkiwi Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Italy was tied for 4th according to that survey. Never been to Italy though. Mmmmm, I don't know where all these friendly, flirtatious Italian women are. Here they think I am a whore because I am always smiling....imagine what happens when I laugh or flirt!!! 1
PJKino Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Ive never understood this logic or seen it work..ive been ignoring and not approaching random women the majority of my 33 years and all its gotten me is them ignoring me as well 1
kaylan Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 A lot of assumptions in this thread. Not surprising considering OP is one of the new posters we get every so often who claims to know how a majority of women think based on a singular (or few) experience. One hot girl shows interest after you ignore her so you assume all attractive women respond to being ignored? Get real. PS - Lmao @ aloofness being "masculine". Jeez, some people over-think things too much. Next someones gonna tell me being extroverted is feminine. 1
sweetjasmine Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 To rip on outrageously pretty girls who are "cold". Another of the easy targets of LS..... Yup. Anything to make you feel like you have power and control over someone else. Also cute to ignore the fact that lots of people act plenty cold to deliberately keep people away. Somehow if you don't grace every person who crosses your path with a smile, flirtation, and giggly conversation, you're an entitled spoiled princess. How sweet. 4
kaylan Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 How does that make him submissive? How does being aloof make someone masculine?
Divasu Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 How does that make him submissive? Because the women behaved in a dominant manner by approaching him, whereas he exhibited the opposite.
MrCastle Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 I don't know. Math is hard. Woman + introversion = masculine = male = female/male * male^2 Man + extroversion = feminine = female = male^2 * 1/male the limit as h -> extroversion of h/aloofness = masculine? I'm so confused. I don't know. Math was never my strong suit. I prefer the simpler yet less classy form of "Men Rule, Women Drool" 1
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 Because the women behaved in a dominant manner by approaching him, whereas he exhibited the opposite. Getting approached doesn't put you in a submissive position.
Imported Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 IMO women handle rejection worse than men. That's why a lot of them don't pursue, in my experience. About every time I turned a girl down I didn't like, my sexuality was called into question by the woman. Well, not so much into question as they didn't ask me if I was gay but pretty much told me I was. Just ignoring their repeated attempts at flirting will garner some hate from them. Almost always from their girl friends that think I should be making a move on their friend and I must be an *******, gay or stupid because I am ignoring. The actual girl is usually too butt hurt to actually lash out in some spit-full manner. 2
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 Just ignoring their repeated attempts at flirting will garner some hate from them. Almost always from their girl friends that think I should be making a move on their friend and I must be an *******, gay or stupid because I am ignoring. The actual girl is usually too butt hurt to actually lash out in some spit-full manner. And they need to get over themselves. Not every guy is going to fawn over you.
MrCastle Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 And they need to get over themselves. Not every guy is going to fawn over you. I'm not gonna lie, while I don't personally attack women who are not into me, when they reject my advances, it takes me a long time for me to process how they could turn me down. I haven't reached the point yet where it rolls off my back. It takes me a few days to process the information. I legit don't understand it. But I would never call her a lesbian or say/do anything petty to show I'm bitter. I just internalize it.
kaylan Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Getting approached doesn't put you in a submissive position. If thats the case, maybe you can see how dumb it is to call being aloof masculine.
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 I'm not gonna lie, while I don't personally attack women who are not into me, when they reject my advances, it takes me a long time for me to process how they could turn me down. I haven't reached the point yet where it rolls off my back. It takes me a few days to process the information. I legit don't understand it. But I would never call her a lesbian or say/do anything petty to show I'm bitter. I just internalize it. There's a difference between feeling disappointed and verbally attacking the person because their interest isn't reciprocated. The former is understandable and simply being human. The latter is arrogant, abusive, and childish. 1
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 If thats the case, maybe you can see how dumb it is to call being aloof masculine. It's not dumb at all. Some traits are masculine, some are feminine. 1
Divasu Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 There's a difference between feeling disappointed and verbally attacking the person because their interest isn't reciprocated. The former is understandable and simply being human. The latter is arrogant, abusive, and childish. But the outcome is exactly the same with this thread... And the above behavior is not solely a byproduct of women. Men put women down all the time, isn't that what the so-called 'negging' behavior is? You started this thread, and labeled women who aren't friendly to you, as cold ice queens. Interesting...
kaylan Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 ^Yeah, are people expected to be open, flirty, and friendly to everyone? Im a generally friendly and extroverted guy, but sometimes my mood dictates that I stay to myself. Am I an ice king when I decide I want time to myself?It's not dumb at all. Some traits are masculine, some are feminine. Much of that is subjective though. If you can believe what youre saying, posters can feel you are feminine for letting the woman take the males general role in approaching. I think its all stupid and that traits are traits, and people are just who they are. Ive met too many men and women with differing traits, who have been masculine or feminine and not have traits line up the way you seem to think they should. Lastly, its always funny when we have noobies join the forum and start saying things I see thrown around PUA circles a lot. Its amusing.
xxoo Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Women with options still pursue the most desirable men. The wiring stuff is inaccurate because if it was, no woman would ever pursue. Most men pursue because THEY HAVE TO. Most men are of average looks, average intelligence, average personalities. I've been pursued by women from ages 15-50+. When you have great looks or some high form of status, women of all walks of life pursue you and that includes the best looking. Tis' life. My husband, and other men in my close circle, have all been pursued. But they also pursued the woman they ended up with. As for ignoring the prettiest girls, she'll find a pursuer elsewhere. No worries. Personally, the best combination to me is a man who acknowledges my beauty, but not primarily. First he shows interest in who I am as a person, and then in my beauty. That's the guy that has always gotten my attention. 1
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 But the outcome is exactly the same with this thread... Has absolutely nothing to do with my thread. And the above behavior is not solely a byproduct of women. Men put women down all the time, isn't that what the so-called 'negging' behavior is? It's not limited to women, but I don't date men and this isn't what the thread is about. Negging consists of backhanded compliments. That has nothing to do with my scenario. You started this thread, and labeled women who aren't friendly to you, as cold ice queens. I didn't label all women. I labeled the one(or 2 in my case) as ice queens because that's what their behavior consisted of. This is clearly a sensitive issue for you, so perhaps you shouldn't post in this thread if it's going to get you worked up.
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 If you can believe what youre saying, posters can feel you are feminine for letting the woman take the males general role in approaching. I think its all stupid and that traits are traits, and people are just who they are. Ive met too many men and women with differing traits, who have been masculine or feminine and not have traits line up the way you seem to think they should. Lastly, its always funny when we have noobies join the forum and start saying things I see thrown around PUA circles a lot. Its amusing. I don't disagree with the gender traits being stupid, but it is what it is. And I've never supported PUA and have denounced it in other threads. You're thinking of Pompeii. My husband, and other men in my close circle, have all been pursued. But they also pursued the woman they ended up with. As for ignoring the prettiest girls, she'll find a pursuer elsewhere. No worries. Personally, the best combination to me is a man who acknowledges my beauty, but not primarily. First he shows interest in who I am as a person, and then in my beauty. That's the guy that has always gotten my attention. Women always pursue the alpha males. Being a pursuer doesn't automatically make you alpha. Having options(actual or perceived) makes you alpha. I don't like using the alpha/beta terms, but I've seen many even introverted and submissive women pursue these men. IME, if a woman isn't pursuing, she's either not that interested or terrified of being rejected. Either one is a turn off because there's plenty who will. Perhaps my world is a bit different than the average guy, but we all get dealt a set of cards at birth. Some get the 4 of a kind or straight/royal flush, and some don't even get a pair. I'm maximizing the hand I was dealt with. It's not fair, but that's life.
xxoo Posted July 20, 2013 Posted July 20, 2013 Women always pursue the alpha males. No, they don't. A beautiful, confident women can sit back, be her dazzling, radiant self, and still be desired. As a bonus, she stands out from the women who are trying too hard. She's intriguing. Maybe not to you, but to plenty of desirable men. 2
Author Southern Cal Dude Posted July 20, 2013 Author Posted July 20, 2013 No, they don't. A beautiful, confident women can sit back, be her dazzling, radiant self, and still be desired. As a bonus, she stands out from the women who are trying too hard. She's intriguing. Maybe not to you, but to plenty of desirable men. Not IME. Desirable men have women pursuing them. The one who doesn't, her loss since there's others beating her to the punch.
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