Funny how no one believes me when I say that ...

[MomsSpaghetti]

.... there exist guys with horrible personalities who nonetheless do great with women. Whenever I mention that fact, everyone here tells me that these guys must actually have great personalities that I'm misperceiving his personality. Even funnier is when the women here jump in and say that they wouldn't go out with a guy who looked like Ryan Gosling or Pierce Brosnan if he didn't have an attractive personality. Sssssuuuuure.

 

FACT: Good-looking guys don't have to be nice, compassionate, intelligent, etc. They get women in spite of the fact that they're unintelligent douchebags. And I'm not just talking about a ONS with bar sluts. I know lots of unintelligent douchebags who date intelligent, classy women.

[pteromom]

Not me. The best looking man turns unattractive very quickly if I realize he's lacking intelligence, kindness, and honesty.

 

Being physically attracted matters but it's completely dependent on who a man is versus how he looks.

 

Me too. I don't find anything to be more of a boner killer than a hot guy who is a douchey jerk. It actually repels me very much.

 

My question is - why is it so important to you, MomsSpaghetti, to cling so tightly onto this belief and why is it so important to you that people BELIEVE your perception? If you feel this is true, then it doesn't really matter what other people think.

 

But I wonder if you are using it as an excuse to not examine and work on yourself. If you can blame society and women for all your problems, you are free to throw your hands in the air and give up.

 

Sure, there are women who will go for hot guys even if they are jerks. But these AREN'T the women you want. Even if they are intelligent and classy, they obviously have some deficiency if they are OK with dating a douchebag just because he has a pretty face and a 6-pack.

 

You've read many many times on here about all of us women who aren't hung up on looks, so you know there are women out there who DO care about personality over looks.

 

But there is something inside you that desperately needs to cling on to this belief, and you would best serve yourself by figuring out what that is and resolving it, instead of trying to convince the world that you are right.

[Pompeii]

 

FACT: Good-looking guys don't have to be nice, compassionate, intelligent, etc. They get women in spite of the fact that they're unintelligent douchebags. And I'm not just talking about a ONS with bar sluts. I know lots of unintelligent douchebags who date intelligent, classy women.

 

Ok, so what.

[MissBee]

.... there exist guys with horrible personalities who nonetheless do great with women. Whenever I mention that fact, everyone here tells me that these guys must actually have great personalities that I'm misperceiving his personality. Even funnier is when the women here jump in and say that they wouldn't go out with a guy who looked like Ryan Gosling or Pierce Brosnan if he didn't have an attractive personality. Sssssuuuuure.

 

FACT: Good-looking guys don't have to be nice, compassionate, intelligent, etc. They get women in spite of the fact that they're unintelligent douchebags. And I'm not just talking about a ONS with bar sluts. I know lots of unintelligent douchebags who date intelligent, classy women.

 

In my opinion, any woman who chooses to date an unintelligent douchebag musn't be too bright herself and HAS to have other issues wrong with her why she'd choose a guy like that. So she may seem intelligent and classy, but probably has low self-worth or low self-esteem to put up with a man like that...which is actually very common. Just because a woman is beautiful, smart or even famous, doesn't mean she knows how to choose men wisely or doesn't have other things you can't see going on which dictates how she chooses men.

[therhythm]

.... there exist guys with horrible personalities who nonetheless do great with women. Whenever I mention that fact, everyone here tells me that these guys must actually have great personalities that I'm misperceiving his personality. Even funnier is when the women here jump in and say that they wouldn't go out with a guy who looked like Ryan Gosling or Pierce Brosnan if he didn't have an attractive personality. Sssssuuuuure.

 

FACT: Good-looking guys don't have to be nice, compassionate, intelligent, etc. They get women in spite of the fact that they're unintelligent douchebags. And I'm not just talking about a ONS with bar sluts. I know lots of unintelligent douchebags who date intelligent, classy women.

 

Your problem is the generalization... there are women who are very attracted to physical attributes and that is the most important thing for them... believe me I know that to be a fact.... but there are many women who find more attractive than the physical attributes of a man his attitude, his way to conduct his life and his personality and I know this to be a fact to.

You are forgetting that women are individuals and you can't say a group as big as around 3 billion women that there is in the world share the same patterns on what they do find attractive... is ridiculous

[ThaWholigan]

Wait.....I'm sorry, who denied any of that??

 

The only thing anyone ever denied is that things are all or mostly like that.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

.... there exist guys with horrible personalities who nonetheless do great with women. Whenever I mention that fact, everyone here tells me that these guys must actually have great personalities that I'm misperceiving his personality. Even funnier is when the women here jump in and say that they wouldn't go out with a guy who looked like Ryan Gosling or Pierce Brosnan if he didn't have an attractive personality. Sssssuuuuure.

 

FACT: Good-looking guys don't have to be nice, compassionate, intelligent, etc. They get women in spite of the fact that they're unintelligent douchebags. And I'm not just talking about a ONS with bar sluts. I know lots of unintelligent douchebags who date intelligent, classy women.

 

It's the same the opposite way too though. Fortunately, a woman with a rockin' body (for me) doesn't mean **** if she's not at least a little nerdy, intelligent, creative and honorable.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Your problem is the generalization... there are women who are very attracted to physical attributes and that is the most important thing for them... believe me I know that to be a fact.... but there are many women who find more attractive than the physical attributes of a man his attitude, his way to conduct his life and his personality and I know this to be a fact to.

You are forgetting that women are individuals and you can't say a group as big as around 3 billion women that there is in the world share the same patterns on what they do find attractive... is ridiculous

 

Actually, one can generalize, because there are generalities. That doesn't mean EVERYONE is, but that doesn't mean a lot aren't; that also doesn't mean that she hasn't encountered a lot of them, personally.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Not me. The best looking man turns unattractive very quickly if I realize he's lacking intelligence, kindness, and honesty.

 

Being physically attracted matters but it's completely dependent on who a man is versus how he looks.

 

It's like you lifted a quote right out of my own brain, madam.

[KathyM]

It's women with low self esteem that put up with men who treat them badly. I know a woman who is very intelligent, attractive, artistic, and has a lot going for her who puts up with dysfunctional men because she was raised in an abusive home and has a hard time realizing that she deserves better, even though she herself has a lot to offer. It's a matter of self perception as to whether a woman will put up with bad behavior from men.

[Joyvke]

Same can be said off guys dating barbie like girls that have no brain at all. What does that say about them?

 

If people want to be shallow let them be shallow really, not your concern .

 

I wouldn't date a scumbag no matter how good looking or how much money he'd earn.

[Woggle]

Good looking women can be horrible people as well. If you are good looking enough you pretty much have it made.

[tbf]

Good looking women can be horrible people as well. If you are good looking enough you pretty much have it made.

Not really. There's just that much more chaff to sift out.

[Woggle]

Not really. There's just that much more chaff to sift out.

 

It depends. If you are really good looking you can use people in almost any way you want.

[tbf]

It depends. If you are really good looking you can use people in almost any way you want.

Here we go again, with the overgeneralizations. Not everyone's stupid and not everyone's that shallow.

 

Are there good-looking users? Sure. Are there ugly users? Sure.

 

That's a serious problem on this site. Generalities based on the dumbest criteria.

[Pompeii]

Here we go again, with the overgeneralizations. Not everyone's stupid and not everyone's that shallow.

 

Are there good-looking users? Sure. Are there ugly users? Sure.

 

That's a serious problem on this site. Generalities based on the dumbest criteria.

 

Are you kidding? It's been proven that good looking people have more influence over others (if they choose) than uglier people.

 

I'm willing to be that du Maurier didn't imagine Svengali as an ugly person.

[therhythm]

Actually, one can generalize, because there are generalities. That doesn't mean EVERYONE is, but that doesn't mean a lot aren't; that also doesn't mean that she hasn't encountered a lot of them, personally.

 

Generalizations are always wrong (including this one )

[tbf]

Are you kidding? It's been proven that good looking people have more influence over others (if they choose) than uglier people.

 

I'm willing to be that du Maurier didn't imagine Svengali as an ugly person.

Having more as a trend doesn't directly translate to:

 

If you are really good looking you can use people in almost any way you want.

 

Because not every good looking person is a user and not every not so good-looking person is dumb or shallow enough to allow themselves to be used.

[ThaWholigan]

Having more as a trend doesn't directly translate to:

 

 

 

Because not every good looking person is a user and not every not so good-looking person is dumb or shallow enough to allow themselves to be used.

And also, consider that some conventionally "ugly" folk out there are master social engineers .

 

Don't let the "halo" effect fool you - its power is not entirely exclusive

[Pyro]

Wait.....I'm sorry, who denied any of that??

 

The only thing anyone ever denied is that things are all or mostly like that.

 

Quoted for emphasis.

 

Please everyone read what Wholigan said before you start generalizing BS.

[Woggle]

Here we go again, with the overgeneralizations. Not everyone's stupid and not everyone's that shallow.

 

Are there good-looking users? Sure. Are there ugly users? Sure.

 

That's a serious problem on this site. Generalities based on the dumbest criteria.

 

I didn't say that everybody wants to. I said that good looking people can. Not every attractive woman wants to take a man for all he is worth but most have that power. Not every attractive man wants to use women like blow up dolls and have them coming back for more but most have that power. Some people don't enjoy treating people like that.

[tbf]

I didn't say that everybody wants to. I said that good looking people can. Not every attractive woman wants to take a man for all he is worth but most have that power. Not every attractive man wants to use women like blow up dolls and have them coming back for more but most have that power. Some people don't enjoy treating people like that.

Which have previously been addressed, whereby if you're so unbelievably shallow, dumber than a chia pet or both, you deserve to be used.

[Revolver]

From what I gather from your posts/threads, you want to be good looking because you want to be able to treat women like garbage and get away with it.

 

I think it angers you that you at times in your life were as you said "nice,compassionate" and it was never reciprocated with female attention while other guys were(again as you said it) "Douchebags" and had their pick of females

[SJC2008]

Are you kidding? It's been proven that good looking people have more influence over others (if they choose) than uglier people.

 

I'm willing to be that du Maurier didn't imagine Svengali as an ugly person.

 

I'll precursor my post with I don't care if a woman dates xyz guy, it's her business and life exp's that shaped her people picker so who am I to judge?

 

As to your quote, absoloutely. Why did Ron Paul do abysmal in the election? Was it his policies or the faxt that he looks like a mucnchkin? Do you think Obam would have beaten McCain if he was a shade or two darker? I don't.

[BradJacobs]

FACT: Good-looking guys don't have to be nice, compassionate, intelligent, etc. They get women in spite of the fact that they're unintelligent douchebags. And I'm not just talking about a ONS with bar sluts. I know lots of unintelligent douchebags who date intelligent, classy women.

Attractiveness creates leniency but does not offer a free pass on everything else.

 

You seem angry about this subject because the majority of good looking guys that I know are not "unintelligent douchebags". Your universal fact has a slight hint of jealousy and by slight I really mean obvious.