MomsSpaghetti Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The Attitude Myth: The idea that a guy who complains about his relationship woes on the internet must be having trouble only because he has the wrong attitude towards women. Ex. Guy on here complains about how, at 5'7", he keeps getting rejected by women for the stated reason of being too short. Women on here immediately reply by telling him that he's giving off a bad attitude vibe, and that's the real reason that women don't want to date him. As if attitude has anything to do with attraction lol. "Looking across the room, it was love at first sight. I was immediately turned on by what appeared to be a positive attitude towards women."
xxoo Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I fell in love with a 5'7" guy, but not from across the room. He stepped up and charmed the pants off me. 5
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 As if attitude has anything to do with attraction lol. Of course it does. People give off a "vibe". A guy can give off a vibe of being happy, happy with himself, accepting of others, friendly. Or he can give off a vibe of hating himself, viewing women as the enemy, bitterness, and looking for reasons to validate those attitudes. The 2nd is pretty easy to spot and is VERY VERY unattractive. Will a 5'7" guy have fewer options than a taller guy? Yeah. But does that mean a 5'7" guy is destined to be alone? No. However a 5'7" guy with anger seething right under the surface or who is angry because he can't get women or sex will have a much much harder time. 1
MrTurk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Will a 5'7" guy have fewer options than a taller guy? Yeah. But does that mean a 5'7" guy is destined to be alone? No. However a 5'7" guy with anger seething right under the surface or who is angry because he can't get women or sex will have a much much harder time. Most women are totally CLUELESS with all this "see right thru" sh*t. Women have the WORST track record....if we are going to use them to compare how good they can read men. Millions and millions of women get duped, used, hurt, and stepped on by men each year..... But all of a sudden...women have this amazing "spidey sense" that can detect the slightest bit of low self confidence in a guy??? Give me a break.....if people pay attention and remember things as much as I do....you too can spot all these contradictions
Pompeii Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) The Attitude Myth: The idea that a guy who complains about his relationship woes on the internet must be having trouble only because he has the wrong attitude towards women. Ex. Guy on here complains about how, at 5'7", he keeps getting rejected by women for the stated reason of being too short. Women on here immediately reply by telling him that he's giving off a bad attitude vibe, and that's the real reason that women don't want to date him. As if attitude has anything to do with attraction lol. "Looking across the room, it was love at first sight. I was immediately turned on by what appeared to be a positive attitude towards women." I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass and tell you that having a "positive attitude" towards women will help you get one. Hell, some of the guys I know who are the best with women don't hold them in high regard. Dude, you're 5'7. Which means you are on eye level, if not a bit shorter than most girls. A lot of girls want someone taller than them obviously. My best friend is 5'8 but he has had sex with over 50 girls. You want to know why? Because he has skin-tight game when it comes to women. And he's only 20. I suspect by the time we're 30, he'll be in triple digits - if he doesn't catch an incurable STD or have a kid first. So obviously attitude doesn't have much to do with attraction. If the girl finds you attractive, you can get away with anything short of assault and still have her wanting you. That's why its important to be as aesthetic as possible, to have as much status as possible, and to have as much money as possible. The 2nd is pretty easy to spot and is VERY VERY unattractive. I'm sorry but I fail to believe this. If women were so inherently clairvoyant, then we wouldn't see numerous cases of "but he seemed like such a nice guy! I can't believe I fell for an *******"! Also, people like Ted Bundy wouldn't have been nearly as successful. Women are just as easily fooled as men, they don't have a sixth sense of detecting bitterness. Edited July 12, 2013 by Pompeii 1
MrTurk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Or he can give off a vibe of hating himself, viewing women as the enemy, bitterness, and looking for reasons to validate those attitudes. There are many many guys that see women as the enemy....and have a dislike for women....YET, they mask it by creating a shell....this outward shell is what women "mistake" for him being super confident and sexy... Its those types of guys that use women to feed their egos. Maybe you've heard of a guy named Tiger Woods??? His is a classic example. A guy like that cant be satisfied with just having a hot wife.....he has to repeatedly hunt and conquer...or he feels inadequate. Guys like that see women as objects....they do not like women as much as you think they do....just because they have sex with a lot of women doesnt mean they "like" them...or care for them. Am I the only one that actually knows about this stuff??
MrTurk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I'm sorry but I fail to believe this. If women were so inherently clairvoyant, then we wouldn't see numerous cases of "but he seemed like such a nice guy! I can't believe I fell for an *******"! Also, people like Ted Bundy wouldn't have been nearly as successful. Women are just as easily fooled as men, they don't have a sixth sense of detecting bitterness. BINGO! Very well stated .
therhythm Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Guys the fact you are missing is that there is no need of a six sense to see you are bitter... it is so obvious that is painful to see... 2
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Being able to tell when someone is angry and bitter doesn't mean that women are perfect or have a "sixth sense". Sure some women are idiots and fall for jerks - especially the younger women. And of course there are exceptions - guys who learn to hide their true selves behind a slick exterior. But those are exceptions. We aren't talking about those guys. We are talking about the guys who AREN'T successful... right?
MrTurk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Guys the fact you are missing is that there is no need of a six sense to see you are bitter... it is so obvious that is painful to see... The fact is that many women are too clueless to even pick up on something so obvious. Lets all take a count on how many threads are on this site alone....with a woman chasing after a guy with bushel of red flags....yet she continues to chase. Even after everyone here tells her not to....she continues to chase. The signs are not that obvious....you just like to fuel the fire, and agree with the women on here.
MrTurk Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 We aren't talking about those guys. We are talking about the guys who AREN'T successful... right? The OP's thread has nothing to do with how successful guys are or not....and everything to do with the lousy perception and contradiction of how women like to think they can spot this or that.
PJKino Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Of course it does. Will a 5'7" guy have fewer options than a taller guy? Yeah. But does that mean . So if a 5'7 guy is in great shape and handsome the average looking tall guy will still have more options then him strictly becasue of height?
therhythm Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The fact is that many women are too clueless to even pick up on something so obvious. Lets all take a count on how many threads are on this site alone....with a woman chasing after a guy with bushel of red flags....yet she continues to chase. Even after everyone here tells her not to....she continues to chase. The signs are not that obvious....you just like to fuel the fire, and agree with the women on here. Hey, no one is telling you that women do not get in love with guys who are very attractive... I know that is a fact. What people is telling you that if you do not have the luck to be attractive for women the only card you can play is your personality... being bitter and angty will bring you nowhere.... I always give this advise to people who has problems getting dates: - Work in your body... if you build a good body women will dig you even if your facial features are not the ones of Brad Pitt. - Learn to dance ... women associate men who can dance good with good sex (This is a great advise, believe me) - Go to therapy to get some self esteem and confidence... without that you are out of the game... - Learn that is the men role to approach women, you like it or not that is how things are. Rejection is part of the game so you need to learn to accept o be rejected, chalk it out to experience.... Rejection is part of the path you need to follow. - Last but not the least... women are like you, they have the same insecurities and issues... just don't idolater them, don't put them in pedestals, don't think they are all virgin Madonnas ( they also love sex and they can be naughty and dirty when they want!) Follow those advises and in 1 to 2 years you will be totally in the game. But you need to look at this as a long term project, you need to change your life and that won't happen in 1 day...
Pompeii Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 We aren't talking about those guys. We are talking about the guys who AREN'T successful... right? I didn't know we were. I thought we were talking about males in general. Even then, it depends on what your perception of success is. Is it being able to sustain a relationship for long periods of time? Is it being able to have sex with multiple women successfully? Is it just being able to have sex period? There should be a benchmark of "success" before this discussion goes any longer. What I have noticed is that most women think a guy's definition of "success" is finding "the one" and being with her forever but that couldn't be further from the truth for most young men.
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 So if a 5'7 guy is in great shape and handsome the average looking tall guy will still have more options then him strictly becasue of height? Hmmmmmmmm... well, I don't have survey results in front of me, but I would say in this case, it would be pretty even, but they wouldn't necessarily have the same women interested in both. Some would prefer the shorter handsome guy and some would prefer the average tall guy.
PJKino Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Hmmmmmmmm... well, I don't have survey results in front of me, but I would say in this case, it would be pretty even, but they wouldn't necessarily have the same women interested in both. Some would prefer the shorter handsome guy and some would prefer the average tall guy. Wow heights a pretty powerful thing then if a tall guy doesnt even need an attractive face
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 The OP's thread has nothing to do with how successful guys are or not....and everything to do with the lousy perception and contradiction of how women like to think they can spot this or that. From the OP: "The idea that a guy who complains about his relationship woes on the internet must be having trouble only because he has the wrong attitude towards women." So we are talking about guys with "relationship woes" who are "having trouble". Sounds unsuccessful to me.
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Wow heights a pretty powerful thing then if a tall guy doesnt even need an attractive face Average does not equal unattractive. Average can be very attractive. Each woman is attracted to certain attributes. For me, it's a smile with crinkly eyes. I can feel attraction for a tall guy, a short guy, a fat guy, if he has the right eye-smile combo.
Content Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Wow heights a pretty powerful thing then if a tall guy doesnt even need an attractive face Im near 5'8 and decent looking and do better then my tall blah looking friends,women grossly overtstate the power of height on this site as do short guys now go out and flirt! 1
Pompeii Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 There are many many guys that see women as the enemy....and have a dislike for women....YET, they mask it by creating a shell....this outward shell is what women "mistake" for him being super confident and sexy... Its those types of guys that use women to feed their egos. Maybe you've heard of a guy named Tiger Woods??? His is a classic example. A guy like that cant be satisfied with just having a hot wife.....he has to repeatedly hunt and conquer...or he feels inadequate. Guys like that see women as objects....they do not like women as much as you think they do....just because they have sex with a lot of women doesnt mean they "like" them...or care for them. Am I the only one that actually knows about this stuff?? I have also noticed that women will defend highly-desired men to the death. What Bill Clinton did should have been a career-ending move but he was being PRAISED (praised!) in the media for what he did with Lewinsky. Obviously Lewinsky is still unmarried at her age for good reasons (lol, can you imagine introducing her to your parents?) But Slick Willy is still marchin'. Most people even forgot he got his dick sucked in the Oval Office. Acclaimed recording artist and blues guitarist John Mayer made some incredibly insensitive comments a couple years ago in Playboy. It created an incredible media firestorm. If he was 5'5 and looked like a toad, he'd be finished. The media would roast him, saran wrap him, put him in the freezer and call it a day. Yet, he's bounced back and women all over the world STILL want to **** him senseless. Fidel Castro was often the target of assassination attempts by the US government. On one occasion, a woman was sent to assassinate him but she couldn't do it and got pregnant by him instead. I've just noticed that behavior that would destroy the average guy socially is rationalized away and tolerated when it comes to highly desired men. That's why I've said it once and I'll say it again. If you are aesthetic, have status, and have loads of money, you can get away with anything. ANYTHING. Women will protect highly desired men. That's all that matters in this world. That's it. If you have those three things, you play life on god mode. People have already spent endless hours trying to tell guys like us that these things don't matter but we can already see they do. A LOT. It's getting old.
Pompeii Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Wow heights a pretty powerful thing then if a tall guy doesnt even need an attractive face That's not true. I'm 6'2 and my friend is 5'8 yet he cleans up with women. Average does not equal unattractive. Average can be very attractive. Each woman is attracted to certain attributes. No one said average was unattractive but when it comes to women, it just isn't good enough.
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 No one said average was unattractive but when it comes to women, it just isn't good enough. Depends on the woman. It was always more than good enough for me. And I know plenty of absolutely beautiful women with average and below average husbands.
ThaWholigan Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 I fell in love with a 5'7" guy, but not from across the room. He stepped up and charmed the pants off me. This should have killed the thread dead. Attitude is basically all about: 1. Not being a pussy, going and talking to her. 2. Not worrying about being rejected and being able to handle it 3. Accepting that not every girl will like you 4. Understanding a more balanced view of dating The rest is all up to you. However you interact, how you style yourself, and all those other things - you put it together and find out who responds to it. 4
PJKino Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Hmmmmmmmm... well, I don't have survey results in front of me, but I would say in this case, it would be pretty even, but they wouldn't necessarily have the same women interested in both. Some would prefer the shorter handsome guy and some would prefer the average tall guy. Well im short and unattractive or average at best so i gues im equal to a tall obese man
pteromom Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Well im short and unattractive or average at best so i gues im equal to a tall obese man I don't think life works like that, by categories and statistics. Rather than worrying about how you rank, go out and maximize the odds for success for yourself. As you know, there are countless threads on LS detailing how.
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