soccerrprp Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Theyres excpetions to every rule but short men have it much harder as a whole.. I think some women loosen their height requeirments as they get older and their options dry up and the bioligical clocks ticking and they realize that tall handsome guy isnt happening.. As a short guy, I was initially a little offended by this. But then I thought, wait, if this is true then these ladies are actually doing themselves a favor in their pursuit for a LTR or any relationship. They are expanding their chances of finding a meaningful relationship involving greater substance. So, no longer offended at all. Still, not entirely buying this as no matter the age, there are going to be plenty of men that meet their height requirements, so if it were so important, they would not settle for someone shorter if not already a possible consideration in the first place.
hppr Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 You're saying my height wasn't a problem for the ones who stated it was? Why not lie . To successfully date online most men have to lie or exaggerate. It's a dishonest medium you are working with and there's no getting around that.
hoping2heal Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Theyres excpetions to every rule but short men have it much harder as a whole.. I think some women loosen their height requeirments as they get older and their options dry up and the bioligical clocks ticking and they realize that tall handsome guy isnt happening.. This is just self-pittying. You can't choose your height any more than a woman can choose her breast size (well, natural breast size). That's not to say women with small breasts are all running around with the short end of the stick. There are no doubt that small percentage of extremely shallow males and females but for the most part no one is going to overlook someone who has a personality they click with, and positive attributes just because of their height or their breast size. 2
soccerrprp Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 To successfully date online most men have to lie or exaggerate. It's a dishonest medium you are working with and there's no getting around that. What a load of crap! It is not a dishonest medium. The medium itself has no moral inclination. The people that use it do. I consider myself successful with OLD and there is nothing on my OLD profiles that is dishonest. PERIOD. 1
Author JackDrc Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 Yep, most girls that I've noticed that have height requirements are either really short or 6-feet plus. Generally girls who are 5'6, to name a random height, don't give a crap either way. The beach girl I mentioned was 5 foot 3 and did not have a height requirement in her profile. I just don't understand people who are saying the girls lied about the reason. Girls lie to spare the guy's feelings? If she doesn't find him attractive she won't tell him that in almost all cases. She will make it about lack of things in common. But I should believe that these girls are lying? Ps I've noticed a few people reference dating offline in NYC. As I mentioned, I'm not in nyc . I hope to do my residency there after school. I'm in a city with approx 250k people in a metro area of about a million.
MrCastle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Still trying to understand how this thread got as big as it has when the guy in question is not even short. There are too many factors going on for women to go just by height alone. Is he facial attractive? Is he in good shape? Is he a good person? Do we have chemistry? Is he even single, and if he is, does he like me like I like him? All of those things trump height. Men on here make it seem like women work on a binary switch. Tall vs short. Then date whoever is tall despite his flaws and reject all short guys despite his pros. Dating doesn't work like that. 1
hppr Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I've dated girls from 5'1 to 6'1 in my life and not once was my height an issue. I think it's how people looked at it and how they see themselves. Really sounds to me like he can "get girls" in the real world just fine however he's all thumbs with internet dating. My internet dating was all about putting up pics/description that made me sound like a crazy party animal kind of guy who did something important for a living...because that is what women want when they go online. It's fantasy-land where people try to live out little dreams and fetishes and not like dating in real-life where personality and emotional connections matter more than "how tall are you" or "how much money do you make". 1
Phoe Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Usually women want a man 5 inches taller or more so she can wear heels and still be shorter,so if youre only a few inches taller then a women you better be perfect in every other way if you want a shot and still alot wont give you a chance. At five seven and a half i dont approach women unless shes around 5'2 I will never wear heels again for the rest of my life if it means I am with a good man who is short. Unless he WANTS me to wear my heels. I happily will 3
Simon Phoenix Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 The beach girl I mentioned was 5 foot 3 and did not have a height requirement in her profile. I just don't understand people who are saying the girls lied about the reason. Girls lie to spare the guy's feelings? If she doesn't find him attractive she won't tell him that in almost all cases. She will make it about lack of things in common. But I should believe that these girls are lying? Ps I've noticed a few people reference dating offline in NYC. As I mentioned, I'm not in nyc . I hope to do my residency there after school. I'm in a city with approx 250k people in a metro area of about a million. I bet she's lying to a degree. She wasn't into you and she gave a reason that you couldn't really argue with. People your height have been getting girls since the beginning of time.
soccerrprp Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I will never wear heels again for the rest of my life if it means I am with a good man who is short. Unless he WANTS me to wear my heels. I happily will Whooohooo! Wear the heels, wear the heels! I don't mind when my taller lady wears heels! Shorter guys who are confident dating taller women don't care that they become a few inches taller wearing heels. It's just hot, hot, hot! 2
hppr Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Ps I've noticed a few people reference dating offline in NYC. As I mentioned, I'm not in nyc . I hope to do my residency there after school. I'm in a city with approx 250k people in a metro area of about a million. New haircut, new duds, hit up girls you normally wouldn't consider or think are out of your league, that sort of thing. Unless you are willing to fudge your height to 5'11, take pics that make you look like the kind of guy who is some kind of guido jerseyshore clubmoster, online dating won't go anywhere...even the regular, boring, plain jane types will shoot you down online...I'm telling you right now, I am a regular guy who figured out how to hit up all sorts of girls on POF, OkCupid, it isn't worth the hassle...
Simon Phoenix Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Usually women want a man 5 inches taller or more so she can wear heels and still be shorter,so if youre only a few inches taller then a women you better be perfect in every other way if you want a shot and still alot wont give you a chance. At five seven and a half i dont approach women unless shes around 5'2 I must be a charming motherf--ker then. 1
Author JackDrc Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 Theyres excpetions to every rule but short men have it much harder as a whole.. I think some women loosen their height requeirments as they get older and their options dry up and the bioligical clocks ticking and they realize that tall handsome guy isnt happening.. You mean online or in person as well? Others in thread have said that online dating girls are pickier. Should I try to meet them in bars when out with friends? Your second statement is just depressing. So basically you're saying that some women will eventually settle for a guy like me because she has exhausted her other options?
Phoe Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Whooohooo! Wear the heels, wear the heels! I don't mind when my taller lady wears heels! Shorter guys who are confident dating taller women don't care that they become a few inches taller wearing heels. It's just hot, hot, hot! Yup, my first boyfriend was 5'6, I was a good 6 inches taller than him in my heels and he didn't care. Black heels, black dress, he loved it. 1
soccerrprp Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Yup, my first boyfriend was 5'6, I was a good 6 inches taller than him in my heels and he didn't care. Black heels, black dress, he loved it. Mmmmm, you sound yummy. Why the heck not? What's there to be insecure about, right? 1
Author JackDrc Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 PJ, "Well I guess I could see myself marrying him because my fertility is decreasing. I know he doesn't meet my requirements but eh undesirable husband is better than being an old maid." Are you saying that one of those women's thought processes would resemble the above.
PJKino Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 You mean online or in person as well? Others in thread have said that online dating girls are pickier. Should I try to meet them in bars when out with friends? Your second statement is just depressing. So basically you're saying that some women will eventually settle for a guy like me because she has exhausted her other options? Im just saying womens ideal man usually starts with tall and good looking,youre average height though youre fine. Ive noticed hispanic women are the least likely to care about height,white black and asian women usually are pretty obsessed with tall men
SammySammy Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Taller is usually better but at your height of 5'7'' it shouldn't be an absolute deal breaker. the guy who's 5'0'' damn I feel for him. But if height meant as much as some people say how come there's a 34 year old guy right here who's 6'3'' and has no luck whatsoever? Because your problem is not your height. Just like the OPs problem is not his height.
Author JackDrc Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 Being charming is so important. Could that be an issue for the original poster? If my personality is the problem then I wouldn't have had offline success either. My problems are exclusively with online dating. Never had problems getting women in college and conventional wisdom is that women in that age group are more concerned with looks.
Phantom888 Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 5'9" is a really good height. You are not "short", and you are not too tall to make a short girl look awkward next to you. It's an ideal height...in my objective opinion. Oh btw, I'm 5'9" also. I have never had any issues dating women. I date women between 5'2" to 5'7". My current woman is 5'6" and we look perfect together height-wise.
DollWelch Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 This is ridiculous, JackDrc. And before I get to why I think this is ridiculous, I have a question. Question: What have you been doing for the last decade of your life in terms of finding a potential (future) partner? I would like to think you are smart enough (considering you are a medical student) to make the connection that in order to find a suitable partner, one must put in a considerable amount of effort into dating (offline) so that he doesn't run into this same issue in his early 30s. This is why I believe your post is ridiculous: I can see, and it is blatantly obvious, that you are insecure about your height -which, btw, is perfectly normal for a man. Your height will never change, that is the first of many things you should come to terms with. Secondly, you may wish to perceive yourself as a much taller man in the hopes of attracting a woman of at least 5'8 or 5'9 stature. If and when you do, you most likely will not be happy given that you will find flaws because of your own insecurities. You will constantly be in pursuit of a better woman -one who will be at your ideal height, and physical features. She may or may not exist -but it is sad to see you're focused on this. Eventually, yes, when a woman learns that you are a medical student (future doctor), she may like you even more. But there is nothing wrong with that. She may simply like you for the fact that being a doctor means helping others and learning to be there for them when they need you the most. It's about generosity and compassion. You can't have it all. With that said, forget about online dating. I say take advantage of meeting a woman in real life, because the the benefits outweigh everything else. But this time, make an effort to put yourself out there (even if it means traveling to NYC, and meeting new people). That's my take on it. 2
Phoe Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 At 6'3'' I'd prefer that but at this point I wouldn't eliminate a woman who's 4'10'' and wears flats who I'd have to bend half way over to kiss. Exactly, having an "ideal" is just fine, but being accepting of going outside that ideal is what's really important. 1
hppr Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 PJ, "Well I guess I could see myself marrying him because my fertility is decreasing. I know he doesn't meet my requirements but eh undesirable husband is better than being an old maid." Are you saying that one of those women's thought processes would resemble the above. Yes I met women on the dating circuit who were like that. Most of the time it wasn't hard to tell either all you have to do is ask around and find out the sorts of escapades they had in the past to figure out if they are running a game on you or not. However there are plenty of GOOD WOMEN out there too you just gotta leave the INTERNET DATING SCENE to find em.
Author JackDrc Posted July 11, 2013 Author Posted July 11, 2013 So to elaborate on my most recent post, Being charming is so important. Could that be an issue for the original poster? If my personality is the problem then I wouldn't have had offline success either. My problems are exclusively with online dating. Never had problems getting women in college and conventional wisdom is that women in that age group are more concerned with looks. I want to make myself clear. I think I can meet a girl offline once I move to nyc in 3 years. Maybe I could meet one online where gender ratios in NYC are more even. What I'm saying is that girls on online dating sites reject me for my height and I wonder what I can do about if, anything. I know short guys can get women. My Dad is a good looking doctor and is 5 foot 4 on a good day. Same height as my mom. They obviously didn't meet online. None of my <5'10 med school classmates with girlfriends met them online. Basically what I'm saying is that guys under 5'10 have trouble succeeding in online dating compared to meeting women by conventional means. Maybe speed dating would be better as someone here suggested? The men are sitting down and move table to table so only noticeably very tall or short guys should stand out. Thoughts?
Simon Phoenix Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Being charming is so important. Could that be an issue for the original poster? It probably is. And I was being facetious -- I'm not that charming, at least, not all the time. I just think the "if you are less than five inches taller you don't have much of a chance" statement is inaccurate. 1
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