joystickd Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 comes to me spending money on her. I need to be sure I'm investing in someone that wants me. Let's look at it like this: Let's say we have this nice, polite, well-mannered gentleman named "Leonard." Leonard was brought up by his parents, and particular his mother, to always be chivalrous toward women, and to be as pleasantly accommodating toward women as possible. Leonard connects with women every week for breakfast, lunch, or dinner. Okay, let's say we have Leonard down for 75 dates over the course of a year with about 20-25 different women. Each date cost him an average of $30-$40 worth of food, beverages and/or movie tickets. After twelve months, Leonard's minimum expenditure would be $2,250.00; at a maximum, his expense tally for both himself and his female companions would amount to $3,000.00. Now obviously, if Leonard is earning a salary of say, $90,000 or more per year, $3,000.00 for lunch, dinner, and movie dates is not much. A drop in the bucket. On the other hand, if Leonard is only earning a modest salary of approximately $25,000 - $40,000 per year, $3,000.00 over the course of a year suddenly becomes a significant chunk of change. Here is the deal: In the same way that many women want to do everything possible to avoid being perceived as a 'ho,' a 'slut,' or an 'easy lay' as a result of agreeing to have sex with too many men too quickly, similarly, most men do not like being perceived as a 'chump' (i.e., an easy-to-manipulate 'nice guy' who frequently gets taken advantage of by women) or a 'trick' (this is a pimp's term for a man who is more than willing to exchange financial favors for sexual companionship). Why should I have to invest that amount of money I know really is not into me? I just want someone that is into me before I spend my money. BTW I use to spend money very quick on women don't be mad because you have to wait now. I'm demonstrating personal growth by making you wait. Don't judge me. 1
Phoe Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Why should I have to invest that amount of money I know really is not into me? You DON'T have to. That's the beauty of it. There are plenty of women out there who are happy to spend time with you, getting to know you, in a manner that is FREE, rather than having money spent. 1
rocketman122 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 comes to me spending money on her. I need to be sure I'm investing in someone that wants me. Let's look at it like this: Let's say we have this nice, polite, well-mannered gentleman named "Leonard." Leonard was brought up by his parents, and particular his mother, to always be chivalrous toward women, and to be as pleasantly accommodating toward women as possible. Leonard connects with women every week for breakfast, lunch, or dinner. Okay, let's say we have Leonard down for 75 dates over the course of a year with about 20-25 different women. Each date cost him an average of $30-$40 worth of food, beverages and/or movie tickets. After twelve months, Leonard's minimum expenditure would be $2,250.00; at a maximum, his expense tally for both himself and his female companions would amount to $3,000.00. Now obviously, if Leonard is earning a salary of say, $90,000 or more per year, $3,000.00 for lunch, dinner, and movie dates is not much. A drop in the bucket. On the other hand, if Leonard is only earning a modest salary of approximately $25,000 - $40,000 per year, $3,000.00 over the course of a year suddenly becomes a significant chunk of change. Here is the deal: In the same way that many women want to do everything possible to avoid being perceived as a 'ho,' a 'slut,' or an 'easy lay' as a result of agreeing to have sex with too many men too quickly, similarly, most men do not like being perceived as a 'chump' (i.e., an easy-to-manipulate 'nice guy' who frequently gets taken advantage of by women) or a 'trick' (this is a pimp's term for a man who is more than willing to exchange financial favors for sexual companionship). Why should I have to invest that amount of money I know really is not into me? I just want someone that is into me before I spend my money. BTW I use to spend money very quick on women don't be mad because you have to wait now. I'm demonstrating personal growth by making you wait. Don't judge me. sure u are. somethings growing up there. dont judge-dont post. what nonsense.
Author joystickd Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 You DON'T have to. That's the beauty of it. There are plenty of women out there who are happy to spend time with you, getting to know you, in a manner that is FREE, rather than having money spent. There are for real?
TheZebra Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Or instead of going out on a date where money is spent every time you meet a woman you could, you know, be more selective and only pick the women you think are the best matches for you so you don't waste your money or time. Even going dutch uses up money. And time, you can never get back. 2
InsaneTrombone Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I don't see a problem here. I actually get very uncomfortable when men try to pay for things for me. I have no idea where it comes from but I go dutch on everything when possible. I got into a verbal spat (and freaking seventeen!) on a first date because I specifically asked a guy not to pay for my ticket and he did it anyway. If as a woman you expect men to pay for the privilege of taking you on a date there are escorts who feel exactly the same way... By the way, yeah, I pretty much view guys who are too eager to throw cash at women as tricks because that's exactly how they're behaving. It also usually comes off as pretty damn desperate IMO. You also despise any kind of affection from a man, so I can't say I'm surprised. 1
JustAReformedGirl Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 No judgment from me, OP. Your logic is sound. I wouldn't want to put money into someone who's just going to turn around and ditch me right after, either. 2
lollipops Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It's called kyriarchy and you men have done it to yourselves. Maybe you should all become feminists.
Archgirl Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 What if you just spent money on the women you felt something more for instead of buying every chick dinner and expecting to have some return for your "investment"? 4
Els Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Uh, by all means, go ahead. Is there really a need to create a thread just to announce it, along with associated calculations? 4
Star Gazer Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Based on the logic you displayed in the "making me wait for sex, but not the guys before me" thread, since you have spent money on women before, you're obligated to spend it on them now. 11
Els Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Based on the logic you displayed in the "making me wait for sex, but not the guys before me" thread, since you have spent money on women before, you're obligated to spend it on them now. ROFL, this cracked me up. 5
Mme. Chaucer Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Will you please buy me a rib eye steak dinner right now? 2
Author joystickd Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 Will you please buy me a rib eye steak dinner right now? I will Mme. Chaucer soon. I'm LMAO right now. I just made this thread to be funny lol 1
pcplod Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 comes to me spending money on her. I need to be sure I'm investing in someone that wants me. Let's look at it like this: Let's say we have this nice, polite, well-mannered gentleman named "Leonard." Leonard was brought up by his parents, and particular his mother, to always be chivalrous toward women, and to be as pleasantly accommodating toward women as possible. Leonard connects with women every week for breakfast, lunch, or dinner. Okay, let's say we have Leonard down for 75 dates over the course of a year with about 20-25 different women. Each date cost him an average of $30-$40 worth of food, beverages and/or movie tickets. After twelve months, Leonard's minimum expenditure would be $2,250.00; at a maximum, his expense tally for both himself and his female companions would amount to $3,000.00. Now obviously, if Leonard is earning a salary of say, $90,000 or more per year, $3,000.00 for lunch, dinner, and movie dates is not much. A drop in the bucket. On the other hand, if Leonard is only earning a modest salary of approximately $25,000 - $40,000 per year, $3,000.00 over the course of a year suddenly becomes a significant chunk of change. Here is the deal: In the same way that many women want to do everything possible to avoid being perceived as a 'ho,' a 'slut,' or an 'easy lay' as a result of agreeing to have sex with too many men too quickly, similarly, most men do not like being perceived as a 'chump' (i.e., an easy-to-manipulate 'nice guy' who frequently gets taken advantage of by women) or a 'trick' (this is a pimp's term for a man who is more than willing to exchange financial favors for sexual companionship). Why should I have to invest that amount of money I know really is not into me? I just want someone that is into me before I spend my money. BTW I use to spend money very quick on women don't be mad because you have to wait now. I'm demonstrating personal growth by making you wait. Don't judge me. What is it about the notoriety of North Carolina? I mean, I thought I could be cautious and analytical but, frankly, I have no spots on you and I am old enough to have accumulated more of it than you. I mean that no-one wants to be a gullible, naive, biddable chump but a little bit of recklessness, impulsiveness, being carefree and just taking a punt and a chance can make you more attracting more interesting. Just a personal opinion, though.
pcplod Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It's called kyriarchy and you men have done it to yourselves. Maybe you should all become feminists. "Kyriarchy" Okay, I'll admit it I had to look it up. Hadn't heard of it before. I guess as a man and not being an avid consumer of 'things feministe' and the term only hailing from 1992 I guess that was inevitable. The curious thing for me about feminism and equality, much though I would welcome it's eventual arrival on the world, I am not sure whether the two things are the same and that feminism is about something 'other' than simply equality. I mean, feminism, apart from (supposedly) looking for equality for women, what equality does it want to offer to men, maybe even impose on men for the benefit of men? Okay, maybe that's not intended to be part of the agenda and that is for men to seek themselves, assuming that they want to at all, but if you believe in the collaborative model of progress, as I do, as opposed to the conflict model, then it has to have some virtue? The one thing that frequently engages my thoughts is the notion that men often feel trapped by the atypical role imposed on them by society in general, by other men, but also by women too. "I want a man who is a man" and the rest of that sort of clichéd palaver. I know there are plenty of women out there who don't beleive in that either, but you are a sad minority too, the proverbial pi$$ in the big wide ocean. And yeah, nothing to do with the original thread topic.
MrCastle Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I thought this thread was gonna be "I have decided to make a woman wait when it comes to sex" I gonna post this
Author joystickd Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 I will Mme. Chaucer soon. I think the other women on LS will be mad I chose to not wait to spend money on you lol. I hoped you all realize I was joking with the thread LMAO!!!!
Author joystickd Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 I thought this thread was gonna be "I have decided to make a woman wait when it comes to sex" I gonna post this All this talk of waiting for sex I had to inject Joystick style humor on here lol 1
crude Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Are men so weak that we can't express an opinion to a woman? Just say " I believe in equality, I live in a work world where single women now outearn their male counterparts, I simply don't want to be the only active, giving person in this relationship. I want to pay for this first date, I asked you out, but if there's a 2nd one, it's on you. We can take turns treating each other." If she refuses and expects only you to shell out for $150 concert tickets and vacations, she's one of those women who tell their husbands what's yours is ours and what's mine is mine. No prize, only good for one thing. btw Those examples sound like cheap dates. Look at the restaurant prices in big cities, not to mention entertainment costs and vacations, which many men spring for too.
RedRobin Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 All this talk of waiting for sex I had to inject Joystick style humor on here lol What I think is funny is that you believe it will make women mad if you make them 'wait' for you to spend money on them. I've always offered to pay half my entire adult life.... I even prefer dates/outings that don't involve money... It's more fun for me. 1
crude Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Usually a man and a woman will be dating for quite some time before having sex. Usually the man does most if not all of the paying, aswell as initiating and planning the dates as a part of the wooing process(which women demand if they are to be dating a man at all). The more money that women make and the more women who take financial advantage of men is leading to more and more men expecting some good faith and wooing from women in return. It's happening slowly but surely.
Author joystickd Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 What I think is funny is that you believe it will make women mad if you make them 'wait' for you to spend money on them. I've always offered to pay half my entire adult life.... I even prefer dates/outings that don't involve money... It's more fun for me. I take it you lack humor. Controlling and no sense of humor. Im dumping you lol
JustJana Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I had a really nice date last night. We went to dinner (his suggestion) and caught a movie (his suggestion) and had a drink after (my suggestion). He paid for all of it except the drinks and I had to teasingly throw my money at the bartender to keep him from doing that. While I don't like feeling indebted to a guy because some keep a running tally-hey thanks for proving that for me btw- I also don't date guys that won't pay either. Next week I'm taking him to a blues festival, my treat. Many of us are 100% willing to pay our fair share or treat you as often as you treat us. FWIW I'd have been just as happy last night with a walk down near the water and an ice cream cone if he hadn't wanted to spend much money. Why not pick less expensive dates until you know if you like a girl enough to "invest" in her?
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