Can a good looking guy really give an unattractive guy tips on how to attract women?

[PJKino]

I know some advice you get on here sometimes for struggling guys is too look at people you know who do well with women and pick things up from them.

 

But if your friend gets tons of women and looks are a major part of why what the hell can you really learn from him other then to get plastic surgery and get a handsome face:laugh:

 

I really dont see what tips you can gather form somebody who women crush on before he even opens his mouth.

[Southern Cal Dude]

I've helped friends. There's nothing I can do that will make him have to beat them off with a stick(unless he's extremely popular, rich, etc), but it's certainly realistic to help them achieve at least a moderate amount of success.

 

In my case, I just keep my mouth shut and not say anything stupid. For most others, always tell them to stand tall, look in the eye, and always walk like you own the place.

[Eddie Edirol]

Youre assuming that your handsome friend knows what hes doing.

 

There are plenty of psychological things that play a part in attracting women that he could tell you, if he can put a finger on it. If he studied it and took note on what works and what doesnt work, then he can tell you. If hes had women tossing themselves at him all his life, then he might be clueless and lets them do all the work. Dont assume that he knows what hes doing just because hes good looking.

 

You can ask him how he talks to them and that should get him started in helping you.

[KungFuJoe]

The only advice you need is common sense, really.

 

Take a good look at yourself...look at how you groom yourself, the clothes you wear...even stuff like your eyebrows and facial hair. Lots of things can be improved and make a pretty big difference. Teeth, too.

 

For myself, even though I'm a guy, I pluck my eyebrows (I have VERY thick eyebrows...I recommend guys be careful with this because you don't want to go into "feminine" territory). And I whiten my teeth (baking soda and peroxide). And it's made a VERY noticeable difference. I even had people I've known for years just stop and stare at me and tell me something looked "different" about me...in a good way.

 

Dressing well is VERY important for a guy...even moreso than a women. You know why? Who is more interested in fashion...men or women?

 

I guarantee that probably 90% of the guys here don't wear clothes that fit right or just plain have NO fashion sense at all. I'm not saying you have to go all GQ, but most guys wear clothes that are too big. I was one of them. At 6'2" 195, I always thought I was an XL. Wrong. I'm a L and even then I get some of my shirts tapered and trimmed down by a tailor. My jeans were too baggy (baggy look is SO out, btw) and I get them slimmed up a bit, as well.

 

Men, find a good tailor. That is the #1 best thing you can do for your wardrobe.

[Babolat]

I am told I am a good looking guy by my female and male friends. My male friends will say "you have it easy because you are tall, in shape and good looking".

 

Girls I date tell me they like me for other reasons: sense of humor, confidence, witty, charming, kind, honest, intelligene, good listener, etc.

 

My point, as the other posters have said, it's not all about looks. It's about confidence and how you carry yourself, and treat a woman. And there are plenty of women who do not find me attractive.

 

I have always find the readings from Michael Fiore interesting and have applied a few over the years:

 

Michael Fiore | Author And Relationship Coach

 

When I diivored a few years ago I read bits and pieces of this book: The Professional Bachelor Dating Guide - How to Exploit Her Inner Psycho

The Professional Bachelor Dating Guide - How to Exploit Her Inner Psycho: Brett Tate: 9780975264027: Amazon.com: Books

 

I found it to more "How to be a Player" though so I quit reading it; though what I read helped me.

[USMCHokie]

It appears I'm just following Joe around tonight from thread to thread and liking his outstanding posts. But yea, exactly what he said above. It's simple, yet so many people do it wrong or just don't do it at all.

[Southern Cal Dude]

The only advice you need is common sense, really.

 

Take a good look at yourself...look at how you groom yourself, the clothes you wear...even stuff like your eyebrows and facial hair. Lots of things can be improved and make a pretty big difference. Teeth, too.

 

For myself, even though I'm a guy, I pluck my eyebrows (I have VERY thick eyebrows...I recommend guys be careful with this because you don't want to go into "feminine" territory). And I whiten my teeth (baking soda and peroxide). And it's made a VERY noticeable difference. I even had people I've known for years just stop and stare at me and tell me something looked "different" about me...in a good way.

 

Dressing well is VERY important for a guy...even moreso than a women. You know why? Who is more interested in fashion...men or women?

 

I guarantee that probably 90% of the guys here don't wear clothes that fit right or just plain have NO fashion sense at all. I'm not saying you have to go all GQ, but most guys wear clothes that are too big. I was one of them. At 6'2" 195, I always thought I was an XL. Wrong. I'm a L and even then I get some of my shirts tapered and trimmed down by a tailor. My jeans were too baggy (baggy look is SO out, btw) and I get them slimmed up a bit, as well.

 

Men, find a good tailor. That is the #1 best thing you can do for your wardrobe.

 

 

Agreed. I model clothing and I can assure you...if you're under 200 pounds, you are not an XL.

[KungFuJoe]

It appears I'm just following Joe around tonight from thread to thread and liking his outstanding posts. But yea, exactly what he said above. It's simple, yet so many people do it wrong or just don't do it at all.

 

My first stalker!

 

...not a chick, though.

[Babolat]

The only advice you need is common sense, really.

 

Take a good look at yourself...look at how you groom yourself, the clothes you wear...even stuff like your eyebrows and facial hair. Lots of things can be improved and make a pretty big difference. Teeth, too.

 

For myself, even though I'm a guy, I pluck my eyebrows (I have VERY thick eyebrows...I recommend guys be careful with this because you don't want to go into "feminine" territory). And I whiten my teeth (baking soda and peroxide). And it's made a VERY noticeable difference. I even had people I've known for years just stop and stare at me and tell me something looked "different" about me...in a good way.

 

Dressing well is VERY important for a guy...even moreso than a women. You know why? Who is more interested in fashion...men or women?

 

I guarantee that probably 90% of the guys here don't wear clothes that fit right or just plain have NO fashion sense at all. I'm not saying you have to go all GQ, but most guys wear clothes that are too big. I was one of them. At 6'2" 195, I always thought I was an XL. Wrong. I'm a L and even then I get some of my shirts tapered and trimmed down by a tailor. My jeans were too baggy (baggy look is SO out, btw) and I get them slimmed up a bit, as well.

 

Men, find a good tailor. That is the #1 best thing you can do for your wardrobe.

 

Great advice, especially on the clothes. I wear clothes that fit now, not baggy, and I get a lot of compliments. I lke the European, tapered cuts the best. I am 6'3" 195 and always thought I was an XL too; wrong, L fits much better. I went to a slimmer cut jean too. I even had a female friend recently suggest I stop wearing the clothes I do so I will attract the "right" woman. I get her point but I like the way I feel and I like to dress nice.

 

I too whitened my teeth, let me stylist trim my eye brows, get a regular haircut, and pay attentiont to grooming. I recently helped a friend of mine on some of this and he admits he is getting more attention now. He wants to be a player though!

[BradJacobs]

All of what KungFuJoe said.

 

OP, I sell a product that is more expensive than and sometimes does not work as well as some of my competitor's products. I don't make my living talking about how much it costs or how it performs against my peers. I make my living showing my customers how it solves their specific issues.

 

You don't need to have the best product on the street to win.

[TouchedByViolet]

I think almost everyone can teach you something. Watch their approach, communication style, conversation skills, attitude, etc. I have learned more from watching the smooth guys in action than listening to them talk about it after the fact.

 

There are plenty of situations where its 90%+ looks and has nothing to do with personality but you have to play the cards you are dealt.

[tbf]

I'm surprised you guys can wear L without shoulders being too tight, arms and jacket length too short. H is 6'3"+ at 185 - 190, where he wears XL with a ton of tapering in the body and sleeve width.

 

As far as hot guys giving advice to not, sure they can. As long as they're self-aware and observant of others, they might provide some interest insights to struggling males.

[Ami1uwant]

A good friend of mine was the type he could go into a bar and get any woman he wanted. He was a charmer. Its something that just cant be taught.

 

What can be taught is how you dress, how you behave, how you approach, and how you interact with women.

 

A guy who goes into a bar and the women all flock to him likely cant teach you anything. But a guy who is successful but isnt a GQ model type likely has more tips/tricks for you.

[ThaWholigan]

I wear XL but that's because I'm like 210lbs. I do need to get fully measured. Fortunately my mother's BF is a tailor .

[Southern Cal Dude]

I'm surprised you guys can wear L without shoulders being too tight, arms and jacket length too short. H is 6'3"+ at 185 - 190, where he wears XL with a ton of tapering in the body and sleeve width.

 

As far as hot guys giving advice to not, sure they can. As long as they're self-aware and observant of others, they might provide some interest insights to struggling males.

 

 

The width of the clothes changes, but you won't find too much of a difference in length. I'm 6'4" 180. Large fits fine.

[Phantom888]

I know some advice you get on here sometimes for struggling guys is too look at people you know who do well with women and pick things up from them.

 

But if your friend gets tons of women and looks are a major part of why what the hell can you really learn from him other then to get plastic surgery and get a handsome face:laugh:

 

I really dont see what tips you can gather form somebody who women crush on before he even opens his mouth.

 

The good looking guy gets women not purely because of his looks. Looks are subjective. My woman thinks Channing Tatum is really unattractive, yet he's voted Sexiest Man Alive by People magazine. So preferences on appearances varied widely. But one thing a lot of good looking dudes have in common is self-confidence. That makes any man 100x better looking than he actually is. Rich dudes tend to have self-confidence as well, and they get women. So while it's true that you can't get rich overnight or change your looks without surgery, you can definitely re-adjust your attitude and confidence level. It's that simple.

[KungFuJoe]

I'm surprised you guys can wear L without shoulders being too tight, arms and jacket length too short. H is 6'3"+ at 185 - 190, where he wears XL with a ton of tapering in the body and sleeve width.

 

As far as hot guys giving advice to not, sure they can. As long as they're self-aware and observant of others, they might provide some interest insights to struggling males.

 

Measuring shoulders is easy...the seam between the sleeves and the body should lie right on the part where your shoulder "drops".

[KungFuJoe]

The good looking guy gets women not purely because of his looks. Looks are subjective. My woman thinks Channing Tatum is really unattractive, yet he's voted Sexiest Man Alive by People magazine. So preferences on appearances varied widely. But one thing a lot of good looking dudes have in common is self-confidence. That makes any man 100x better looking than he actually is. Rich dudes tend to have self-confidence as well, and they get women. So while it's true that you can't get rich overnight or change your looks without surgery, you can definitely re-adjust your attitude and confidence level. It's that simple.

 

Channing Tatum is a somewhat good example. Though he's definitely not a bad looking guy by any means, he does have that "meathead dumb jock" look about him. But he doesn't SOUND dumb and I think he's a very good actor. Plus his background as an exotic dancer probably doesn't hurt either.

 

A GREAT example is Vin Diesel. I think he's ugly (and my wife agrees) but so many woman love this guy because of his body, attitude and especially voice.

[Southern Cal Dude]

There's also people who think Megan Fox isn't all that. I'm one of them.

[Phantom888]

Wow I see a lot of men here are over 6' and likely to be tall, dark and handsome. I'm only 5'9", wear old shoes, jeans and blk t-shirt most of the time. I am a cute dude, but not "hot" at all. I don't flash any bling around either. However, I can ALWAYS score with a hot woman. You know why? Because I'm really educated and refined. That seems to be a real turn on, because women understand that educated/refined men usually have money, class and CONFIDENCE! If you want a hot girlfriend, and you never went to college, it's time to go back to school!!!

[EasyHeart]

It's got nothing to do with how you look and everything with how you look.

 

You seduce a woman with your eyes, gentlemen. That's all there is to it.

[mesmerized]

It's got nothing to do with how you look and everything with how you look.

 

You seduce a woman with your eyes, gentlemen. That's all there is to it.

 

Gotta love these responses! Not ALL women are the same.

 

No if you are not attractive, try to get advice from other unattractive men who became successful with women. Same works with women...I'd be a fool to think if I act like a super model, I'll get men like a supermodel no matter how I look!

[SJC2008]

My first stalker!

 

...not a chick, though.

 

Somebody wants a cup of Joe!

[jma500]

A good friend of mine was the type he could go into a bar and get any woman he wanted. He was a charmer. Its something that just cant be taught.

 

What can be taught is how you dress, how you behave, how you approach, and how you interact with women.

 

A guy who goes into a bar and the women all flock to him likely cant teach you anything. But a guy who is successful but isnt a GQ model type likely has more tips/tricks for you.

 

Very true. Especially the first sentence. I had a friend like that too. The ability was, for him, a license to screw around with any woman he wanted. Even when he had girlfriends and a fiance. Why women reward guys like this is beyond me. Of course these same women will later come on LS and complain they can't find a "good" man.

[henderson14]

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