I may never marry...cant wait till that question comes up

[tbf]

Maybe you're unfamiliar with my work. When I dislike something or someone, I make it known. Have the bans to prove it. No "weaseling" necessary.

 

I was responding to KFJ's question of whether the other party should be 100% responsible if they knowingly involve themselves with the wrong person. The answer is, yes. If you know they're a scorpion, don't give them a ride.

Now that you've clarified, it looks like I've misconstrued the context of which you're applying the adage. My apologies.

[MrCastle]

Now that you've clarified, it looks like I've misconstrued the context of which you're applying the adage. My apologies.

 

Don't even sweat it tbf.

[KungFuJoe]

Maybe you're unfamiliar with my work. When I dislike something or someone, I make it known. Have the bans to prove it. No "weaseling" necessary.

 

I was responding to KFJ's question of whether the other party should be 100% responsible if they knowingly involve themselves with the wrong person. The answer is, yes. If you know they're a scorpion, don't give them a ride.

 

So if one person has 100% responsibility, you're saying the other has 0%?

 

So a known deadbeat guy gets a woman pregnant and decides to bail. Too bad? It's HER fault because she should have known better? She now has 100% responsibility to raise the child and he gets to run off and get some other girl pregnant?

 

I guess if you walk in a dark alley someday and you get mugged...too bad for you cuz you should have known better than to walk in a dark alley.

[KungFuJoe]

No, that I shouldn't act surprised and outraged when people turn out to be.. who they always were.

 

My word, so you're saying he had debt collectors coming by day and night hm? And now he doesn't pay child support? Shocking, absolutely shocking. No way you could've seen this coming darling.

 

You're not getting the point of "responsibility".

 

It doesn't matter if a guy had a hundred kids from a hundred different mothers. It doesn't matter that there are women dumb enough to "get pregnant" by him.

 

The WHY does not matter. All that matters is the end result. A child. By both parties. Thus, both parties are required to take responsibility. THIS is why the legal system is necessary.

[Carenth]

I'm not really thrilled by the idea of marriage mainly because many of my friends families were torn apart growing up by divorces. Luckily that did not happen to my family but still.

 

I'm 26 and I feel no real desire or need to get married at anytime in the near future if at all. That is not to say I'm not committed in relationships I am very loyal to whoever I'm with. However I feel marriage is an antiquated idea, that in the modern era causes a lot more issues than anything else.

 

To me it is basically a legal contract. The friends I have who are married seem to have become complacent in their relationships. Knowing that if either one of them want to leave it will be a mess. They often complain about their marriages behind each others backs. Then again these are couples who got married in their early twenties.

 

I don't like that idea that I can't just leave easily if I wish to. Not that I would ever leave a committed relationship on a whim there would need to be some serious issues.

[KungFuJoe]

Which I never argued against.

 

I merely said the deadbeat dad issue wouldn't be an issue if women were more selective when it comes to procreation.

 

Yeah...but you're harping on an IMPOSSIBILITY.

 

You might as well ask for world peace. It's not going to happen. There are always going to be dumb women and loser men...and it's just a fact of life.

 

The problem with this is that you can't just "ignore it" and hope it settles itself out (like intergang warfare). Because these people end up having children and these children become the future of our society.

[MrCastle]

So if one person has 100% responsibility, you're saying the other has 0%?

 

So a known deadbeat guy gets a woman pregnant and decides to bail. Too bad? It's HER fault because she should have known better? She now has 100% responsibility to raise the child and he gets to run off and get some other girl pregnant?

 

I guess if you walk in a dark alley someday and you get mugged...too bad for you cuz you should have known better than to walk in a dark alley.

 

I'm just a fan of personal accountability. If I'm going to chase a girl who is a known player or has a lot of casual partners, I can only blame myself for catching feelings and getting hurt when I want a relationship and she doesn't.

 

People think they can change others. Turn them around. I think some people look at others in terms of "potential" -- as in "well, I don't like that about them, but I can change it. I know they've been like this since birth but they haven't been with me yet. I'll get them to change."

 

I don't look at people in terms of potential. I look at them as finished products. If you are not a good finished product, it's not my job to make you so.

 

If I knowingly get involved with a bad person. Knowing the risks--I only have myself to blame.

[KungFuJoe]

I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm not concerned about the WHY two people got together. People hook up for a million different reasons.

 

If you do something knowingly bad and you get hurt...yeah...it's on you.

 

But this situation is different because an "innocent" is affected. The child.

 

Thus the need for the legal system to make sure BOTH parties take equal responsibility.

[KungFuJoe]

Oh don't get me wrong im just stating a fact. I don't mind deadbeats, single mothers or children from broken homes. I need someone to change my oil and clean my house for minimum wage.

 

Your attitude is very telling. Sounds like someone is bitter. Did some deadbeat loser steal a woman from you or are you just sick of all the good girls going for "bad" boys?

[ThaWholigan]

Your attitude is very telling. Sounds like someone is bitter. Did some deadbeat loser steal a woman from you or are you just sick of all the good girls going for "bad" boys?

It's Greznog.

[Woggle]

I know about what happened to Nas and he was royally screwed. His ex wife is a pretty well known singer herself who can certainly live on her own so why does she need all that money? At least he used the experience to make the best album he made in a long time.

 

I am happily married myself and while I very much do believe in it I certainly don't blame anybody for being cynical about the institution. With the way people these days treat their vows you have to be very very about who you choose.

[KungFuJoe]

I definitely don't blame anyone either. My parents were divorced since I was 5 so it's not like I grew up with the notion that marriage was the end game. In fact, to be honest, I don't think I gave marriage a second's thought...until the day my wife proposed to me. But when she did propose, I didn't hesitate. I said yes immediately. In my mind, I already knew I only wanted to be with her and marriage wasn't this HUGE MONUMENTAL step that I had to analyze and consider and ponder before deciding. But it also wasn't this earth shattering, OMG I DON'T BELIEVE IT, moment, either.

 

It was more like..."Yeah...I want this...let's do it."