Any Over 50 OW here?

[Morgoth]

Just curious if there are any Over 50 OW on here. I find that women at this stage of life have different outlooks on pretty much everything than a younger woman. They are past that build a family stage, are beyond birth control and are generally more sexual and less inhibited, and are so busy that they are not so much interested in a "traditional relationship" and usually are mostly financially stable. Thanks for any replies.

[anne1707]

Just curious why you're asking. Are you looking for another OW? Your wife, your OW and your two FWBs not enough for you now?

[Sarabi]

Just curious why you're asking. Are you looking for another OW? Your wife, your OW and your two FWBs not enough for you now?

 

Lol...your comment ...Love it!!!

[Morgoth]

Just curious why you're asking. Are you looking for another OW? Your wife, your OW and your two FWBs not enough for you now?

 

Why are you interested in joining the team? What City and State do you live in? I love beaches so its a plus if you have a beach close to you. I offer excellent benefits, 5 star hotels, fine dining and airfare w/ occasional first class upgrades for Europe. PM me your email address and you can send me a pic. Of course if you are overweight not interested, unless you have unusal beauty and commit to getting in shape before our first meeting. Variety is the spice of life and I can confirm that this is true at least from a male perspective.

 

It is more for my intellectual curiosity to see who is here. I would say that the way one views these relationships at 20 or 30 something is completely different at 40 or 50 something.

[oldshirt]

OK OK all the bickering aside this is actually a legit question being posed. As distasteful as some of you may find Morgoth personally, the question has validity.

 

As an almost 50 year old male and former very active swinger, Morgoth is correct in many ways. Women of that age and lifestyle demographic often do shed the chains of conventional social contraints and do things that women in their childbearing and raising years would never consider.

 

To an educated, gainfully employed, professional woman that already has a marriage(s) and grown children under her belt, the rules are either drastically changed or simply have no real meaning any more?

 

To a 50 year old woman with an education, carreer, marriage(s) and children under her belt, the traditional rules kind of look like this -

 

- virginity? ......That ship sailed after an AC/DC concert in 1980 LOL

 

- abstinence until marriage? .... Well sort of. The odometer may not have read "zero" while walking down the isle the first time but things were still pretty new and shiny with low miles and that new car smell.

 

- Marital monogamy? .... yeah 20 years worth through the 80s and 90s.

 

- dedication to home, family and child bearing/rearing? ...... Been there, done that and have the t-shirt to show for it. Baby #4 starts college this fall.

 

- Talking care of husband? ..... yep did that with husband #1 for 10 years until he left me for the little blond secretary in accounting and with husband # 2 for 15 years until he just got so fat and lazy he wasn't doing me any good anyway and there were other things I wanted to do besides watching him sitting on the couch watching TV.

 

- Protecting yourself against unplanned pregnancy? ...... Doesn't the hysterectomy take care of that????? Getting rid of that $hit was the best thing I ever did. Wish I did that 10 years sooner!

 

-Avoid STDs? ..... Can you say health insurance??? Look, I've had 17 pelvic exams over the course of my life, I've had 4 kids crap out my kooter infront of God and country to see and I've had all the reproductive parts removed in the hysterectomy. Do you really think I give a crap if I have to make another trip to the Dr and take some antibiotics for a couple weeks or have a few warts removed?

 

- Sexual morality and social convention? ....... Honey, you can live your life by whatever rules, values and whatever moral compass you want. I played by all your sexual rules for over 30 years and I've raised my children and got them out of the house. I only have a few years left before parts start dropping off of me so now I am going to do what I want to whether the church ladies approve of it or not. ... Now then, I've always been kind of intrigued about doing a double penetration. Which ever one of you with the smaller peeter can be in the back:laugh:

Edited June 23, 2013 by oldshirt

[oldshirt]

The problem Morgoth is going to run into with this thread is very demographic that he wants to hear from is probably not on this site at all. They are out living their new lives and not hanging out on the computer reading about all the dating woes of the teens and early 20somethings and all the marital woes of the 30-40somethings.

 

There are definitely a few 40-50somethings here that have had the rug pulled out from under them unexpectedly and are looking for a little direction on how to move forward. Those people hang around here for about a few weeks until they see the light and are off to the races.

 

The ones that have actually seen the light and shed the chains are long gone and are getting a rubdown by some Jamaican cabana boy on a sunny beach right now.

[georgia girl]

Just curious if there are any Over 50 OW on here. I find that women at this stage of life have different outlooks on pretty much everything than a younger woman. They are past that build a family stage, are beyond birth control and are generally more sexual and less inhibited, and are so busy that they are not so much interested in a "traditional relationship" and usually are mostly financially stable. Thanks for any replies.

 

Morgoth,

 

I'm not yet fifty (close to mid-40's) but in other ways I am qualified to give you a response. The hysterectomy took care of fertility issues six years ago and I am very financially stable. In fact, I make a little more than my husband (I got married for the first time a few years ago) and when I met him, we both had houses, vehicles, and a lifestyle that we could not only pay for but we lived well within our means so that we can retire in about 7 years.

 

So, had I not met and married my hubby would I have been interested in the kind of deal you offer? Absolutely not. First and foremost, with age comes a very quiet dignity for most people. Things I would have tolerated in my 20's and 30's, I have no tolerance for now. If you can't treat me as I would treat you and emotionally invest the same as I am willing to invest, then there's no room for you here. And no, I'm not sorry about that.

 

Plus, I am just too old to play those drama filled games. Dear lord, who has time for that? I do have a demanding job, but as a firm, we've actually committed to hiring young partners so that those of us who are getting older can do what the old, old partners did when we got here - take a step back without reducing our lifestyle. Other than that, I love the comfort and peace of my life. There's nothing better than making a gourmet meal on a Saturday night and sitting on the back deck with a few friends and a couple of bottles of wine. I did the crazy stuff when I was in my 20's and even early 30's. I don't regret those days, but I'm so glad that they're out of my system. I look at folks who are now doing that stuff at my age and I think, "You got married way too young and never lived. Now, it's pathetic that you're trying to be THAT AGE again. Ugh."

 

Finally, the fastest growing age group for sexually transmitted diseases are those 50 and older. Why? There is no fear of pregnancy so this age group relatively does not use condoms. On top of that, while we're vaccinating young girls/women for HPV, the vaccine is not indicated for older women. So, there is a real risk of cervical cancer (and most women get hysterectomies which leave the cervix, so it's a risk). Further, this generation has a whole lot of herpes. While it was relatively unspread while they were in monogamous relationships, now that there's a whole lot of swingin' going on, the herpes is spreading. (FYI: that was in an article in JAMA, so you can look it up.)

 

So, why take the risk to live that lifestyle? It seems to me to be a whole lot of teen-age drama with old men riding around on Harley's trying to recapture their youth.

 

But, best of luck to you. I'll opt out, thanks, and pay may own first-class ticket to Europe.

[So happy together]

I was married for a lot of years, and have several children so did not work until a couple of years ago. I am finally doing well financially but it was tough.

 

I went for a good while before dating again and went right back into a monogamous relationship (I'm former OW, my boyfriend left his w and we are in a proper R now).

 

I have several kids, but had them later in life so I'm still raising little ones. I did have my tubes tied so I don't have to worry about having any more kids, unless there is an accident. Lol

 

So, I guess my point is that I'm barely financially stable, I am still tied to kids, I still have to worry about getting pregnant. But my brain is older and I'm exhausted!

 

So really I can't help you one bit! But I will say, it is your life to live. Keep a piece of meat in your pocket to throw out in case the vultures return. Good luck!!

Edited June 23, 2013 by a LoveShack.org Moderator
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[Lostinlife4now]

Just curious if there are any Over 50 OW on here. I find that women at this stage of life have different outlooks on pretty much everything than a younger woman. They are past that build a family stage, are beyond birth control and are generally more sexual and less inhibited, and are so busy that they are not so much interested in a "traditional relationship" and usually are mostly financially stable. Thanks for any replies.

 

 

Hi Morgoth.....

 

I am over 50...DONE menopause....Single, petite, big personality, sexy....I have that come hither look if you know what I mean.... own a business, my baby is 25, a great Italian cook.....

 

You want to spend money one me? Fine...but my way...you need to be single,and dating NO ONE ELSE..... and I only want you on Saturday nites/maybe 1 nite during the week.

 

Those are my conditions, take them or leave them. :cool:

[Lostinlife4now]

Hi Morgoth.....

 

I am over 50...DONE menopause....Single, petite, big personality, sexy....I have that come hither look if you know what I mean.... own a business, my baby is 25, a great Italian cook.....

 

You want to spend money one me? Fine...but my way...you need to be single,and dating NO ONE ELSE..... and I only want you on Saturday nites/maybe 1 nite during the week.

 

Those are my conditions, take them or leave them. :cool:

 

 

I am definitely the WHOLE BAG OF CHIPS!!!!!!

[thefooloftheyear]

Hi Morgoth.....

 

I am over 50...DONE menopause....Single, petite, big personality, sexy....I have that come hither look if you know what I mean.... own a business, my baby is 25, a great Italian cook.....

 

You want to spend money one me? Fine...but my way...you need to be single,and dating NO ONE ELSE..... and I only want you on Saturday nites/maybe 1 nite during the week.

 

Those are my conditions, take them or leave them. :cool:

 

:love:Do you date younger, sexier guys?

 

TFY

[Morgoth]

All, I am genuinely interested in the thoughts, attitudes and posture of Over 50 OW. Let's try and leave the judgements and acrimony out. And thank all of you for the intelligent thoughtful posts so far.

[Morgoth]

And in my opinion, you would be right. I have absolutely ZERO patience for scumbag married men on the make, and I think it's largely due to getting older and much wiser with general life experience.

 

While older women may not have a focus on starting a family or worrying about pregnancy, it doesn't necessarily mean they're more prone to lowering themselves to wasting their time with married cheaters.

 

Honestly? I don't need to resort to that. I have more than my share of suitors.

 

OK, you are not an Over 50 OW woman and I am not a scumbag, just a human male. Thanks for your reply.

[William]

Did some thread cleanup. So far no members on suspension. Let's keep it that way. If members can address the topic in a civil and respectful manner, please do so. Otherwise, move on. Big forum, lots of threads. Thanks.

[Morgoth]

Hi Morgoth.....

 

I am over 50...DONE menopause....Single, petite, big personality, sexy....I have that come hither look if you know what I mean.... own a business, my baby is 25, a great Italian cook.....

 

You want to spend money one me? Fine...but my way...you need to be single,and dating NO ONE ELSE..... and I only want you on Saturday nites/maybe 1 nite during the week.

 

Those are my conditions, take them or leave them. :cool:

 

You sound interesting and fun, but apparently not an OW, but PM me if you change your mind. I love spoiling my partners.

[Morgoth]

I was married for a lot of years, and have several children so did not work until a couple of years ago. I am finally doing well financially but it was tough.

 

I went for a good while before dating again and went right back into a monogamous relationship (I'm former OW, my boyfriend left his w and we are in a proper R now).

 

I have several kids, but had them later in life so I'm still raising little ones. I did have my tubes tied so I don't have to worry about having any more kids, unless there is an accident. Lol

 

So, I guess my point is that I'm barely financially stable, I am still tied to kids, I still have to worry about getting pregnant. But my brain is older and I'm exhausted!

 

So really I can't help you one bit! But I will say, it is your life to live. Keep a piece of meat in your pocket to throw out in case the vultures return. Good luck!!

 

Were you Over 50 when you were the OW?

[MissBee]

Just curious if there are any Over 50 OW on here. I find that women at this stage of life have different outlooks on pretty much everything than a younger woman. They are past that build a family stage, are beyond birth control and are generally more sexual and less inhibited, and are so busy that they are not so much interested in a "traditional relationship" and usually are mostly financially stable. Thanks for any replies.

 

Not over 50..but I have observed and think it does seem less risky for a woman who has already had a family and maybe grand kids to engage in that kind of relationship, than a young woman starting out. But this is also dependent on the woman and what she wants out of life, as not because you're over 50 necessarily means you have the time for the drama many As come with and doesn't mean that at 50+you're not interested in a life partner who is exclusively with you.

 

I think you can either be over rubbish by that stage in life so have no time for an A OR if you've had kids, even grand kids, are divorced and just want companionship sometimes, it's less detrimental for you to have an A. But people are people and it's not so much age, but what you want and need.Even young women get into As touting their sexual liberation and not wanting a "full time" relationship...then feelings change but the A situation stays the same, then it becomes a conflict and hurtful. So can it also be for a 50+woman. She is no more in control of her feelings changing and wanting more after becoming emotionally involved in an A.

[oldshirt]

Y'all are hating on Morgoth here because you find his matter-of-fact writing style about his infidelities distasteful but this is an pertinent topic for open discussion.

 

If you look at my first post in the thread you can replace the word "hysterectomy" with "vasectomy" and pretty much everything I said about women over 50 can be applied to men as well.

 

Morgoth may represent everything wrong with the world to you but in many ways he does describe the way it is for many people.

 

Once you hit a certain point in life, many of the rigid barriers of conventional morality just don't carry the same merit as it did back when people were in their 20s. Oh sure, cheating and infidelity are always wrong and always carry consequences but the consequences are often quite mitigatable.

 

In the case of Morgoth, divorce for him is likely inevitable but both will walk away intact. He'll work with his lawyers and accountants to make sure he isn't taken to the cleaners and so will his wife. The lawyers will walk away with their hefty cuts and the Morgoths with walk away with their freedom and dignity and self-determinism.

 

Mrs Morgoth is no innocent victim getting blindsided and taken for a ride here. She likely knows fully well of his activities even if she doesn't know the specific names, dates and hotel rooms.

 

And while he comes here and talks of her asexuality and lack of sexual desire, he is only seeing his tiny portion of the elephant. She is probably actually very sexual. She is just no longer sexual with him. The years of mutual neglect and philandering have taken their toll on their relationship and the chemistry is simply gone between them but the fires are still burning bright below the surface.

 

She likely has her boytoys and FWBs too. As long as she isn't 300lbs and growning chin hair she is still marketable too, just not as a potential wife and mother in the traditional sense. As a FWB or an OW for another man or even as a legitimate later-in-life partner for older man who isn't a philanderer/skirt chaser she is still very much in the game.

 

Here's the great irony of this thread that everyone is missing including Morgoth himself. The demographic that he writing about and yearning for....... describes HIS OWN WIFE! He just doesn't realize it yet or see it through the fog of his own discontent and focus on his own philanderings.

 

Their divorce will release them to pursue their own interests. Both will travel and take on new adventures, meet new people's and experiences. Neither is going to die alone and isolated. Both will have friends, family and loved ones in their lives. If they can work out the divorce carefully enough they may even remain on friendly and cooperative terms.

 

Reread my first post and realize that any day now Mrs Morgoth is going to be getting the rubdown from the Jamaican cabana boy and will be looking for her backdoor man at the beach party that night:laugh:

Edited June 23, 2013 by oldshirt

[KathyM]

The OP needs to fill in his wife on the status of their relationship, since he is opening it up to others. Or did he expect he wife to remain faithful to him while he goes out with others. Fifty somethings are no more interested in a fling than younger women. Most women want the same thing regardless of their age--a satisfying relationship with someone they can trust whom they are exclusive with. That is true for teenagers going steady, as it is for middle aged and older women. I married very young (19), and now at middle age, my values and desires for a monogamous relationship have not changed. Cheating on my husband would not bring joy to my life, it would destroy my life. I get my excitement through things that are not destructive. You are missing out on what could be a wonderful relationship with your wife if you are investing your interest outside of your marriage. How sad that people stay married to each other, but look outside their marriage to get their desires met.

[Morgoth]

Y'all are hating on Morgoth here because you find his matter-of-fact writing style about his infidelities distasteful but this is an pertinent topic for open discussion.

 

If you look at my first post in the thread you can replace the word "hysterectomy" with "vasectomy" and pretty much everything I said about women over 50 can be applied to men as well.

 

Morgoth may represent everything wrong with the world to you but in many ways he does describe the way it is for many people.

 

Once you hit a certain point in life, many of the rigid barriers of conventional morality just don't carry the same merit as it did back when people were in their 20s. Oh sure, cheating and infidelity are always wrong and always carry consequences but the consequences are often quite mitigatable.

 

In the case of Morgoth, divorce for him is likely inevitable but both will walk away intact. He'll work with his lawyers and accountants to make sure he isn't taken to the cleaners and so will his wife. The lawyers will walk away with their hefty cuts and the Morgoths with walk away with their freedom and dignity and self-determinism.

 

Mrs Morgoth is no innocent victim getting blindsided and taken for a ride here. She likely knows fully well of his activities even if she doesn't know the specific names, dates and hotel rooms.

 

And while he comes here and talks of her asexuality and lack of sexual desire, he is only seeing his tiny portion of the elephant. She is probably actually very sexual. She is just no longer sexual with him. The years of mutual neglect and philandering have taken their toll on their relationship and the chemistry is simply gone between them but the fires are still burning bright below the surface.

 

She likely has her boytoys and FWBs too. As long as she isn't 300lbs and growning chin hair she is still marketable too, just not as a potential wife and mother in the traditional sense. As a FWB or an OW for another man or even as a legitimate later-in-life partner for older man who isn't a philanderer/skirt chaser she is still very much in the game.

 

Here's the great irony of this thread that everyone is missing including Morgoth himself. The demographic that he writing about and yearning for....... describes HIS OWN WIFE! He just doesn't realize it yet or see it through the fog of his own discontent and focus on his own philanderings.

 

Their divorce will release them to pursue their own interests. Both will travel and take on new adventures, meet new people's and experiences. Neither is going to die alone and isolated. Both will have friends, family and loved ones in their lives. If they can work out the divorce carefully enough they may even remain on friendly and cooperative terms.

 

Reread my first post and realize that any day now Mrs Morgoth is going to be getting the rubdown from the Jamaican cabana boy and will be looking for her backdoor man at the beach party that night:laugh:

 

Hey old shirt, I didn't miss the irony that my wife is an Over 50, highly doubtful she is an OW, maybe if she was she would be a little more enjoyable. She is sexual exactly the same way, every time with little to no devation in routine or process, any devation is not tolerated. Also I would hope that once the dust setteles we would be friends. We have children that will always bind us. Thanks for your reply.

[2sure]

I was a serial OW until I was nearly 40 , in it to some degree for the benefits you spoke of, but vacations alone would hardly have attracted my notice at the time.

 

And as I approach 50, and am divorced once again, I agree that an affectionate part time relationship appeals to me. I certainly can now afford my own vacations , airfare, and dinner as can the men I date. So, I just can't see any benefit of dating a MM anymore, there jut isn't anything he offers but some risk and inconvenience.

 

Besides, if I were going to do anything like that...which I wouldn't, he would have to be much younger than myself. I guess that might offer some appeal. But other than that...there is just no advantage whatsoever .

[Lostinlife4now]

:love:Do you date younger, sexier guys?

 

TFY

 

 

How young is young May I ask?

[Lostinlife4now]

You sound interesting and fun, but apparently not an OW, but PM me if you change your mind. I love spoiling my partners.

 

 

Hi Morgoth!

 

I WAS an OW for a long while! As I have become older and knowing who I am as a woman, and what I bring to the table....I like a man who is there just for me! But on my terms of course!

 

I don't like to share my man, especially when he is getting ALL OF ME.....

 

Would it be inappropriate to call you (as my daughter would say) "PLAY---ER"?

[Morgoth]

Hi Morgoth!

 

I WAS an OW for a long while! As I have become older and knowing who I am as a woman, and what I bring to the table....I like a man who is there just for me! But on my terms of course!

 

I don't like to share my man, especially when he is getting ALL OF ME.....

 

Would it be inappropriate to call you (as my daughter would say) "PLAY---ER"?

 

I do not consider myself a player. All of the relationships just happened, I suppose they presented and I responded. I am also an Over 50 and not into picking up women any more. There are a number of opportunities that I just do not pursue. Thanks for your replies.

[Lostinlife4now]

I do not consider myself a player. All of the relationships just happened, I suppose they presented and I responded. I am also an Over 50 and not into picking up women any more. There are a number of opportunities that I just do not pursue. Thanks for your replies.

 

 

My apologies Morgoth if I offended you by calling you a Player! I don't really know your story...will have to read....but it seems like you make a lot of women happy? Yes?.....

 

As I have always said...."To each his own"!