Woggle Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Just look at the state of relationships these days? Everybody is pretty much cheating on everybody Most people are playing some kind of games You have to pretty much treat people like crap or already be taken in order to even have many people even be interested in you Men and women pretty much hate each other People are getting more and more shallow and superficial by the day People divorce at the drop of a hat these days and if you make it a decade with your spouse it is a miracle Most people in long term relationships seem to hate being in them Actually being in a relationship is seen as something similar to a prison sentence I myself got damn lucky but picture being a single person and looking at this current climate in the dating world. If you are a sane single person looking for a loving partner you can build a life with and have a healthy relationship is it even worth trying in this kind of atmosphere? Why even bother when chances are you will run into some of the drama I described above? What does somebody who isn't insane have to gain at all by attempting to have a relationship with the current state of affairs? 5
Ripnet Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Come on you have a wonderful wife. Don't focus on the negativity of life. There are great people out there men and women it's just that it takes longer to find. 2
SJC2008 Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I'm a commitment phobe but I know what I need in a woman to commit and if a meet a woman with those qualities I'll marry her.
KungFuJoe Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Just look at the state of relationships these days? Everybody is pretty much cheating on everybody Most people are playing some kind of games You have to pretty much treat people like crap or already be taken in order to even have many people even be interested in you Men and women pretty much hate each other People are getting more and more shallow and superficial by the day People divorce at the drop of a hat these days and if you make it a decade with your spouse it is a miracle Most people in long term relationships seem to hate being in them Actually being in a relationship is seen as something similar to a prison sentence I myself got damn lucky but picture being a single person and looking at this current climate in the dating world. If you are a sane single person looking for a loving partner you can build a life with and have a healthy relationship is it even worth trying in this kind of atmosphere? Why even bother when chances are you will run into some of the drama I described above? What does somebody who isn't insane have to gain at all by attempting to have a relationship with the current state of affairs? Are you prone to depression or bipolar conditions? I've noticed that your posts have become increasingly "down" lately.
Author Woggle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Posted June 23, 2013 Are you prone to depression or bipolar conditions? I've noticed that your posts have become increasingly "down" lately. I just tell it like it is. All this really makes me grateful for my wife. Sometimes I really have a hard time believing she exists. They just don't make women like her anymore. She actually means it when she says how she wants a men to treat her and shows it through actions. 1
miss_jaclynrae Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 When I was dating I just sorta went with the flow. I believe in love, and I think that everything works out in the end. Me being super optimistic probably helped a lot. I just had fun, and figured if something was meant to be it would just happen. I put out there what I want given, and sure, I have gotten screwed over a few times, but I just get right back out there. Nothing is guaranteed in life.
KungFuJoe Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I just tell it like it is. All this really makes me grateful for my wife. Sometimes I really have a hard time believing she exists. They just don't make women like her anymore. She actually means it when she says how she wants a men to treat her and shows it through actions. I thought you had supposedly "cured" your misogynism? I just wish you could see how potentially dangerous your attitude is. I know that I would not view my wife the way I do if she thought all men were scum...even if she felt I was the one exception in the world. It's just not a healthy outlook on life and it affects how you treat people. It also makes me worry about you, long term-wise. When does it get to a point where you finally start to envision your own wife as just another typical soul sucking woman like the rest? I'm not being rude here...just warning you that your attitude can start to slowly take over...and you won't even be aware of it until it's too late.
Ripnet Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I just tell it like it is. All this really makes me grateful for my wife. Sometimes I really have a hard time believing she exists. They just don't make women like her anymore. She actually means it when she says how she wants a men to treat her and shows it through actions. Woogle you need to get off this site and stop reading the news. Spend some quality time with your wife, kids and friends.
SJC2008 Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I thought you had supposedly "cured" your misogynism? I just wish you could see how potentially dangerous your attitude is. I know that I would not view my wife the way I do if she thought all men were scum...even if she felt I was the one exception in the world. It's just not a healthy outlook on life and it affects how you treat people. It also makes me worry about you, long term-wise. When does it get to a point where you finally start to envision your own wife as just another typical soul sucking woman like the rest? I'm not being rude here...just warning you that your attitude can start to slowly take over...and you won't even be aware of it until it's too late. Where does he show that he's a woman hater in his thread?
Author Woggle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Posted June 23, 2013 I hate to say it but just read many threads on this forum and it is clear that the behavior I show towards my wife would turn off a lot of women. You can emotionally open up to many women without turning them off. 1
KungFuJoe Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Where does he show that he's a woman hater in his thread? "All this really makes me grateful for my wife. Sometimes I really have a hard time believing she exists. They just don't make women like her anymore. She actually means it when she says how she wants a men to treat her and shows it through actions."
KungFuJoe Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I hate to say it but just read many threads on this forum and it is clear that the behavior I show towards my wife would turn off a lot of women. You can emotionally open up to many women without turning them off. Dude...you are basing your opinion off LOVESHACK posts and threads??? Are you SERIOUS? Please, for the love of GOD, tell me this is all just a joke you're playing on us. hahahaha...very funny...you got me! Well played, sir...well played. 2
Author Woggle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Posted June 23, 2013 Dude...you are basing your opinion off LOVESHACK posts and threads??? Are you SERIOUS? Please, for the love of GOD, tell me this is all just a joke you're playing on us. hahahaha...very funny...you got me! Well played, sir...well played. Reading LS sometimes makes me think relationships in general are doomed. 1
miss_jaclynrae Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I hate to say it but just read many threads on this forum and it is clear that the behavior I show towards my wife would turn off a lot of women. You can emotionally open up to many women without turning them off. Gotta agree with KFJ... this place is a terrible place to get outlooks. It doesn't reflect in the slightest what is out there.
Star Gazer Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Reading LS sometimes makes me think relationships in general are doomed. I'd hate to see you leave, Wog. BUT, I think you've be a much happier person if you did. LS isn't representative of real life. It's representative of people who have troubles. 4
Author Woggle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Posted June 23, 2013 I'd hate to see you leave, Wog. BUT, I think you've be a much happier person if you did. LS isn't representative of real life. It's representative of people who have troubles. It's not just LS. Yeah it seems to be concentrated here but I see it all around. Male/Female relationships are seriously breaking down in this society. I admit that woman have their own legit complaints as well. It's just hard to see something you can't really relate to. 1
mesmerized Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Gotta agree with KFJ... this place is a terrible place to get outlooks. It doesn't reflect in the slightest what is out there. It certainly does to some degree. I'd hate to see you leave, Wog. BUT, I think you've be a much happier person if you did. LS isn't representative of real life. It's representative of people who have troubles. Says the single mid thirties girl...
MomsSpaghetti Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I've been thinking a lot about this recently. A lot of reputable sociologists say that love-based monogamy is a joke. It has not been the practice of any society until recently in Western civilization. Yea, the divorce rate was lower 50 yrs ago, but we know that some or all of that difference can be explained by the fact that in the old days there were stricter divorce laws, more societal pressure for people to stay faithful, not as many financially independent women, and so forth. Add in the fact that we live in the age of sexually liberated women, mass information transfers through texting and social media, and I think you have a recipe for chaos. There's gonna be so much cheating, manipulation, games, whatever.
quankanne Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 picture being a single person and looking at this current climate in the dating world. If you are a sane single person looking for a loving partner you can build a life with and have a healthy relationship is it even worth trying in this kind of atmosphere? Why even bother when chances are you will run into some of the drama I described above? What does somebody who isn't insane have to gain at all by attempting to have a relationship with the current state of affairs? interesting you bring this up, hubby and I were just talking about it on the way home from the store tonight. He said he'd read that men nowadays don't want to get involved in a relationship leading to marriage because they worry about divorce, child support, getting taken to the cleaners, etc. I told him that it's probably not so much a fear of divorce or intimacy that keeps people fearful, but the fact that people of a certain age aren't really equipped to be *intimate* because they lack interpersonal communication skills. You can get a girlfriend from the internet, be "involved" with her and go through all the emotions and drama and adventure of it ... and never have met her in real life (true story, a coworker's teenage son thought I was crazy when I told him that she wasn't a girlfriend because he'd never met her!). They don't know how to BE in a relationship with someone to begin with, then you add all the other crazy shxt into the mix, and yeah ... we've got people in their 50s and younger who fail at relationships because they're not emotionally or socially equipped to be in one. when you talk about "why even bother," that suggests a person has no idea how a healthy relationship works, and therefore can't imagine even attempting to be in one. don't know how to answer the "if a sane person wants a committed/long-term relationship like marriage" question, because honestly, marriage was never part of my life's plan. I had better, more exciting things to do with my life and it just never really fit into the scheme of things. Thankfully, my husband saw something there, and despite striking out at marriage twice before, was willing to take a chance. Maybe the answer is "stop trying so hard to find love/marriage, and it'll just happen." Like getting a good lottery card with a triple digits when you scratch off the cover 1
KungFuJoe Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I've been thinking a lot about this recently. A lot of reputable sociologists say that love-based monogamy is a joke. It has not been the practice of any society until recently in Western civilization. Yea, the divorce rate was lower 50 yrs ago, but we know that some or all of that difference can be explained by the fact that in the old days there were stricter divorce laws, more societal pressure for people to stay faithful, not as many financially independent women, and so forth. Add in the fact that we live in the age of sexually liberated women, mass information transfers through texting and social media, and I think you have a recipe for chaos. There's gonna be so much cheating, manipulation, games, whatever. I prefer a society of choice and free will. Yes, the divorce rate was lower in the past, but not because people were happier...it's because divorce was near impossible. Either by law, by religion, or simply because the man was the sole provider. That was then...this is now. Women have a voice...they have choices...they are independent...they don't need a man to live their lives. And it's never been better. I want a woman to want me because that's what she WANTS...not because that's what society "dictates" she should do. If my woman cheats on me...then so be it. At least I know and I can move on. I wouldn't want her to "stick around" out of obligation or fear of being on her own. Free will and choice. It's a beautiful thing. 2
Author Woggle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Posted June 23, 2013 I admit I am biased because I see life through a man's eyes but I admit that good and sane women looking for a healthy relationship have it just as hard. They have to deal with the players and the PUA types and the guys who want to make them pay for the sins of past women just like many good men pay for the sins of other men. Every once in a blue moon a sane men and woman find each other before either of them turns bitter but that is rare. 1
miss_jaclynrae Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 I admit I am biased because I see life through a man's eyes but I admit that good and sane women looking for a healthy relationship have it just as hard. They have to deal with the players and the PUA types and the guys who want to make them pay for the sins of past women just like many good men pay for the sins of other men. Every once in a blue moon a sane men and woman find each other before either of them turns bitter but that is rare. I can honestly say, out of all the men I have dated, I can only think of ONE who was a complete POS. All others were great guys, not for me, but honestly nice guys. Some I dated for some time, others not so much, I never once looked at men and wondered if I would find a good one. It was all a matter of finding the RIGHT one. My man is all about commitment, he was about marriage from the get go. People still want it, they just want it on their own timeline.
fortyninethousand322 Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Personally, I wouldn't date anyone who would agree to date me. I don't like being in clubs that want me as a member... 1
kaylan Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Im sure Ill have more relationships in my life. Im not too sure about the settling down or marriage part though. Because a lot of the things you said are true OP. And also, the only person who I can ever be 100% sure about in terms of commitment and feelings is myself. And even with that said, Im not sure if Ill ever want to be with one girl for the rest of my life. My life experiences have sort of guided me away from that. But Im still young...so we will see what happens.
Star Gazer Posted June 23, 2013 Posted June 23, 2013 Says the single mid thirties girl... 1. By choice. 2. I fail to see how my single status has any bearing on whether LS is representative of the real world. 3. I also fail to see why you think saying that, YET AGAIN AS YOU OFTEN DO, clearly as an attempted dig, is productive or helpful to anyone at all? That's not nice. If it's representative of the real you, that's sad.
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