Author InsaneTrombone Posted June 21, 2013 Author Posted June 21, 2013 So we had a great dinner for our second date. They actually brought out the rose when we were served dessert and she seemed genuinely surprised. Totally caught her off guard it seemed, from what I could tell by her reaction. She definitely wasn't expecting it and said it was VERY sweet of me. We shared a few tight hugs and a couple quick kisses when I dropped her back home. Barring her just pulling some kind of act to be polite, I'm pretty sure she's into me. 3
Cutiepie1976 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 That sounds perfect! I'm sure she liked it. Are you working on a third date?
Woggle Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 If a guy just wants sex, all he has to do is lie about his intentions and turn on the charm for 1-3 dates according to today's traditions. Not sure how flowers after sex reassures anyone... if they are the type to use them to manipulate someone. I'm going back to my earlier statement... a lot of you are A-OK with a 'kiss' on the first date or second date reassuring you of what exactly?? but you are gonna get creeped out by a flower? To me, having a near stranger swoop in for a kiss is trying too hard. Not a flower, for chrissakes. Maybe because I DO give flowers to strangers... it doesn't seem strange to me at all. Because to many people a kiss can imply sex while flowers just imply corniness. 1
Author InsaneTrombone Posted June 21, 2013 Author Posted June 21, 2013 That sounds perfect! I'm sure she liked it. Are you working on a third date? Already confirmed there would be a 3rd one, no set plans yet but it was discussed.
RedRobin Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Because to many people a kiss can imply sex while flowers just imply corniness. A kiss from a near stranger is trying too hard for sex and doesn't imply sincere interest at all. Especially not these days. Talk about going through the motions... A single flower, done correctly, shows class at least. Rare these days. OP, good job!! Glad it went well. 2
Ripnet Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 If a guy just wants sex, all he has to do is lie about his intentions and turn on the charm for 1-3 dates according to today's traditions. Not sure how flowers after sex reassures anyone... if they are the type to use them to manipulate someone. Why do you see things with negativity? If he's a player he can continue having sex without buying her flowers. I don't buy flowers for someone who I hardly know. No right or wrong answers of views just different. 1
Woggle Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 If the OP found one that actually appreciates this then good for him.
MidwestUSA Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I do hate to think I have to have sex with a guy before a thoughtful gesture such as flowers enters the picture. Sheesh! I mean if he thinks it was bad sex, do I get a lump of coal or something? Do I have to "reward" him? What would I get him? A PS4 for good sex? Actually, now that I think about it, I'm going to get my man some new wiper blades. A little reward for last night. As for thoughtfulness and spontaneous, random acts of kindness, it's rather important to find someone who shares your beliefs. Otherwise, someone's going to waste a lot of time on efforts that aren't appreciated or reciprocated. "Love is the power to act without the premise that there's nothing for free". Aztec Camera 1
JuneJulySeptember Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I had planned on having a single rose waiting on the table for her at the restaurant. We both find eachother attractive and have said we like eachother already. Is this too soon on a second date? Would you women appreciate this or is it too cliche? Age 21. If she's physically attracted to you, you could probably show up naked with the rose taped to your junk and she'd be OK with it.
MidwestUSA Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 If she's physically attracted to you, you could probably show up naked with the rose taped to your junk and she'd be OK with it. "No shoes, no shirt, no service". So yea, I guess this would work, LOL!
hppr Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Don't bring her flowers. Just don't. I do hate to think I have to have sex with a guy before a thoughtful gesture such as flowers enters the picture. Sheesh! I mean if he thinks it was bad sex, do I get a lump of coal or something? Do I have to "reward" him? What would I get him? A PS4 for good sex? Actually, now that I think about it, I'm going to get my man some new wiper blades. A little reward for last night. LOL I agree with what you are saying in spirit however in the real world that's not how it is. C'mon, how many single American girls today honestly and truly appreciate that kind of stuff? I don't think I've ever met one. Yeah, they'll say they think it's sweet, until the guy bring them is butt ugly, then it's a conspiracy to get in their pants (like in the post below). To add: Personally, depending on the situation and chemistry, I might even consider it as "trying too hard" at that point in the dating process. Too early, IMO. And it can also make me wonder if he's just trying to get on my good side, to get me into bed ASAP. *shrug* That's just me. Still, though, if I liked the guy A LOT, maybe...
hppr Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 From my experience I surely wouldn't do it. Wait several months. Giving a rose on a second date is moving too fast. This guy gets it.
eastcoastgirl88 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Yup...rose on a second date is trying way too hard. IMO it is pretty corny, too. I mean, a ROSE? If you're going to bring flowers bring something a little less...suggestive. Like tulips or something. I mean, a rose = love, and how can anyone be in love on a second date?! 1
Ninjainpajamas Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Yup...rose on a second date is trying way too hard. IMO it is pretty corny, too. I mean, a ROSE? If you're going to bring flowers bring something a little less...suggestive. Like tulips or something. I mean, a rose = love, and how can anyone be in love on a second date?! I love how rational and "under control" women are when they're speaking of a hypothetical situation or they're not in it themselves but when they are it's like... entering another dimension... "OMG this guy is so amazing, we had such an amazing connection, he farted in my face does this mean he trusts me?!!!??? does this mean he's feeling the same way!?!?!! OMG SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT HE'S THINKING!! what does he think, I can see myself having his babiez, my face is melting!! bleehhhhhhhhhh....OMG he hasn't called me or texted me in 3 mins, do you think I'm coming off too desperate? should I text him or call him! OMG I DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUT ON THIS AMAAAAZING GUY!" 6
eastcoastgirl88 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I love how rational and "under control" women are when they're speaking of a hypothetical situation or they're not in it themselves but when they are it's like... entering another dimension... "OMG this guy is so amazing, we had such an amazing connection, he farted in my face does this mean he trusts me?!!!??? does this mean he's feeling the same way!?!?!! OMG SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT HE'S THINKING!! what does he think, I can see myself having his babiez, my face is melting!! bleehhhhhhhhhh....OMG he hasn't called me or texted me in 3 mins, do you think I'm coming off too desperate? should I text him or call him! OMG I DON'T WANT TO LOSE OUT ON THIS AMAAAAZING GUY!" HAHA I'll admit this sounds like me when I really like a guy...
Author InsaneTrombone Posted June 21, 2013 Author Posted June 21, 2013 HAHA I'll admit this sounds like me when I really like a guy... :facepalm: 1
Imajerk17 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 No matter how this one woman responded to the gesture of the rose OP, I'd still advise you to take this out of your bag of moves so to speak. It was cute partially because you're both so young. Wait until AFTER you sleep with her to give her something like that. Reading the responses from the women here, some thought it was very sweet and some thought it was creepy (unless of course they really like the guy). HOWEVER, the women who thought it was sweet probably were speaking from a HYPOTHETICAL position. I wonder how they would ACTUALLY feel if a guy they were seeing (but weren't yet sure about) about gave them a rose on the second date. ("OMG he really likes me! I feel so much pressure now! Should I go on another date or break if off now??") Bottom line: If you're thinking of giving her a romantic gift and you haven't slept with her yet the answer is no! Win her over by showing her a good time with your personality instead. 2
Star Gazer Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 For me, it would depend on our dynamic. I would find it cute if it was funny, almost a joke... but not if it was sincere.
Eternal Sunshine Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I had it happen twice in my life and borh times I was very surprised because the dynamic wasn't all that romantic. Just a regular first/second date. To be honest, my first thought was this guy can't ve sincere, he probably read the tip on PUA website. How to get laid in 3 dates or something. But then again I'm a lil bit paranoid....
Author InsaneTrombone Posted June 21, 2013 Author Posted June 21, 2013 I had it happen twice in my life and borh times I was very surprised because the dynamic wasn't all that romantic. Just a regular first/second date. To be honest, my first thought was this guy can't ve sincere, he probably read the tip on PUA website. How to get laid in 3 dates or something. But then again I'm a lil bit paranoid.... A bit, yeah. I just wanted to surprise her, not confess my undying love for her after 2 dates, that's silly. Thought she'd appreciate the fact not only did I plan the dinner date but went a little further and thought about the rose for her as well. Was worth it to see her smile like that. If I didn't feel she was too into me yet, I probably wouldn't have done it to be honest. 3
pteromom Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Reading the responses from the women here, some thought it was very sweet and some thought it was creepy (unless of course they really like the guy). HOWEVER, the women who thought it was sweet probably were speaking from a HYPOTHETICAL position. I wonder how they would ACTUALLY feel if a guy they were seeing (but weren't yet sure about) about gave them a rose on the second date. ("OMG he really likes me! I feel so much pressure now! Should I go on another date or break if off now??") We are ALL speaking from a hypothetical position. The line between creepy and romantic depends on how into the guy she is. If she likes him, his giving her a rose is sweet and romantic and cute. If she isn't sure or isn't into him, his giving her a rose is creepy or desperate or contrived or corny. It ALL depends on how she's feeling. Trust me... even those who are saying "Ewwww creepy" would swoon over a rose if it was from the right guy. 1
Imajerk17 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) We are ALL speaking from a hypothetical position. The line between creepy and romantic depends on how into the guy she is. If she likes him, his giving her a rose is sweet and romantic and cute. If she isn't sure or isn't into him, his giving her a rose is creepy or desperate or contrived or corny. It ALL depends on how she's feeling. Trust me... even those who are saying "Ewwww creepy" would swoon over a rose if it was from the right guy. Sure. Here's the thing though... "Right guy" = no rose needed. "Not sure about him" = "sweet gesture but it doesn't change how I feel about him" (best case), "sweet gesture but now I feel too much pressure" (most likely) or "ewwww creepy this guy doesn't get out much" (worst case). Bottom line: Rose doesn't help OP's cause of furthering dating relationship. Edited June 21, 2013 by Imajerk17
pteromom Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Sure. Here's the thing though... "Right guy" = no rose needed. No rose needed. That's the point. It's an "above and beyond" thing. It's something unexpected. As I said in my first response, it is ALWAYS nice to know someone was thinking about you. "Not sure about him" = "sweet gesture but it doesn't change how I feel about him" (best case), "sweet gesture but now I feel too much pressure" (likely) or "ewwww creepy" (worst case). And? If a rose is going to scare someone away, the relationship wasn't likely going anywhere anyway. Plus, if he is a guy who gets excited about giving a rose, a woman who cringes at roses isn't the girl for him.
Divasu Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Yup...rose on a second date is trying way too hard. IMO it is pretty corny, too. I mean, a ROSE? If you're going to bring flowers bring something a little less...suggestive. Like tulips or something. I mean, a rose = love, and how can anyone be in love on a second date?! Bah. Ancient Greeks came up with the whole "rose symbolism concept", are you going to listen to some ancient ritual invented by a bunch of deceased people to interpret the meaning of someone giving you a rose?
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