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So, this may not warrant a thread.. but something interesting happened this evening. For the first time since probably February '10 my exW and I had a civil, face to face conversation for probably 20 minutes.

 

My son had a swim lesson, and she offered to let me have him for the night. He apparently kept bugging her about it since Sunday, so she asked I pick him up from his lesson. I got there, she was by herself. Usually her parents are there and they act fake and completely ignore my existence. It bothers me so I usually don't go. I sat like 10 feet away from her, then decided to walk up and sit next to her. We started talking about our son, how he was doing really well in the class, and I told her I was hoping he could do summer soccer camp and how he had said he wants to play soccer in fall and lacrosse in the spring.

 

She wouldn't really look me in the eye, was twirling her hair a lot, but didn't seem annoyed at all. Again, every conversation we've had since she's left my son has always been right there, or even my son and her 1yr old daughter. It was so strange to even speak to her, someone who has caused SO much pain and suffering to me the last 3yrs. She was so familiar but so foreign, her ego soo much bigger. She was sporting some new high dollar watch, and seeing her engagement ring still kinda bothers me, since who knows what happened to the $9k ring I bought her in '06 was (gone, I'm sure). That's stupid I know, but it still causes discomfort.

 

I pretty much kept the conversation on my son, and she brought up her new job. I asked her how it was going and she said she loved it. It was just a very calm, conflict free exchange. She asked if I wanted to go back and help get him changed. She came too.. I was happy and playing with my son as I always do. She was waiting when we got out of the changing room. And for 10 minutes or so I got to feel like I had a family again. We walked out and parted ways.. it was light and nice. My son and I got in the car and drove away. He was shocked (he's 6 btw) and said "you and mommy were being nice to each other!" I said yea, weird huh? He said "well what does that mean?" I said well probably not much, but it proves we can pull it off. We went home and did our thing together. And we were happy together, as we always are.

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Sounds like you are a great dad. Think it was nice you guys were able to talk about the son you guys do share together. Shouldn't be of your concern what was going through her mind. Whatever it is, its about her feelings one way or another. Maybe figuring out what's next for her now that she has that engagement ring and stuff. Doubts, Concerns, "What ifs", or just curious to see where you are at. Regardless you should be happy with your son

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Very poignant little story, MM4.

I feel the various waves of emotions that ran through this episode.

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Yeah.. it was very strange to say the least. And believe me, I made no assumptions whatsoever afterwards, though I'm sure she probably thought I did. I just have this overwhelming feeling that some day she is going to regret her choices and how she treated me. Its almost like she thinks she's above me or something which is absolutely preposterous, but whatever..

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Looks like this was an isolated incident. Oh well.

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So at dinner tonight my son told me he told his mother just today that when he got older he wants to live with his dadas. He did this all on his own as I would never tell him to tell her that. So what does she do? She guilt trips him and says how that hurts her feelings. Great parenting right there. She's such a poor excuse for a human being.

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I just have this overwhelming feeling that some day she is going to regret her choices and how she treated me.

 

But you'll never know, being the prideful wacko she is.

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She had the nerve to send this douche to pick up my son this morning.. I told this guy I'm not handing my son to him and to go f himself (in so many words) He had her on the phone on Bluetooth and I said the only people I'll drop him off to is his mother or her parents. So this clown leaves in his shiny leased Mercedes and I leave and take him straight to a daycare I used to take him to and ignore her texts saying she was on her way. I had him legally until 6pm today, btw. When I dropped him off this chicken**** guy was in her SUV but she pulled behind me, then for some unknown reason she got out of the car and walked a few feet from my car trying to bait me but I drove off. These two low life's deserve each other.

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She had the nerve to send this douche to pick up my son this morning.. I told this guy I'm not handing my son to him and to go f himself (in so many words) He had her on the phone on Bluetooth and I said the only people I'll drop him off to is his mother or her parents. So this clown leaves in his shiny leased Mercedes and I leave and take him straight to a daycare I used to take him to and ignore her texts saying she was on her way. I had him legally until 6pm today, btw. When I dropped him off this chicken**** guy was in her SUV but she pulled behind me, then for some unknown reason she got out of the car and walked a few feet from my car trying to bait me but I drove off. These two low life's deserve each other.

 

That's pretty disgusting behavior. She's putting your kid in the middle which means she is a manipulator. See it for what it is and demand family counseling through your lawyer to protect the your child. She needs to see how her actions are hurting your child. It didnt matter how angry my exhusband made me or how difficult my life was, I never ever put my children in that position. She needs a wake up call from someone other than you to shake her out of her selfish state, so she can start thinking about how her actions are affecting your child. I'm sorry, there is no excuse in this world that justifies putting your kid in the middle like that and jeopardizing his well being and emotional health. She's immature.

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That's pretty disgusting behavior. She's putting your kid in the middle which means she is a manipulator. See it for what it is and demand family counseling through your lawyer to protect the your child. She needs to see how her actions are hurting your child. It didnt matter how angry my exhusband made me or how difficult my life was, I never ever put my children in that position. She needs a wake up call from someone other than you to shake her out of her selfish state, so she can start thinking about how her actions are affecting your child. I'm sorry, there is no excuse in this world that justifies putting your kid in the middle like that and jeopardizing his well being and emotional health. She's immature.

 

She's in a permanent state of selfishness. Only thing that could possibly change her perspective is actually having to be responsible for herself, and that'll never happen as long as this moron new husband continues to enable her and give her horrible, ignorant, self serving advice. And let's keep in mind these two idiots conceived a child before either of them were even legally divorced. They were married in Vega$ (LOL) in December and this guy has been gone for 5 of the 7 months. She honestly thinks my son gives two ****s about him. Reality is he was glad he was gone the last 4 months, and wouldn't blink if he never saw him again.

 

Oh, and today they're having a birthday party for this daughter of hers. Never mind the fact her birthday was in April. This is how delusional these people are. And it has a really negative effect on my son. I do my best to not let it affect me in front of my him but its really hard considering how absolutely absurd her actions are.

 

And yes, there needs to be co parenting counseling. That subject came up a month ago, and I said good lets do it. She said "ok" but has avoided it ever since this guy came back from Afghanistan. I mentioned that via email and she said "I told you find a therapist and I'll go". Much like our ill fated "marriage counseling" that she suggested after we were separated for a month, that I did all the leg work finding a therapist, coordinating, and she purposely sabotaged and was a complete child for both sessions we attended.

 

I honestly believe I couldn't have procreated with a worse person. She's a perfect storm of dysfunctionality:

 

1. Epic daddy issues with her deceased, apparently abusive father

2. Is 32 years old and has never supported herself. She thinks having children is some golden ticket to having a free ride the rest of her life

3. Exhibits cluster B traits probably passed down from her unstable mother

4. Grew up with very little, so instead of appreciating what others do for her she thinks she is entitled to it (ie- gold digger)

5. Thinks she deserves all kinds of respect, none of which she's ever earned

6. Will lie at the drop of a hat to cover her own ass, usually with no negative consequence

7. Has no problem using our son to hurt and control me. She even tried to take him away from me for 2yrs in 2010 out of pure spite. Judge told her no and stated she was "vindictive".

 

I would love to think we could do that counseling, and some issues were actually addressed, but she's incapable of taking responsibility for her actions. She never does anything wrong in her eyes. I would assume in a few years this new husband of hers and I will have something in common.. he'll also consider the day he met her as the worst of his life.

 

I also sent this text this afternoon:

 

For the record I'll never hand (our son) to that pos. I don't care if its next week or next year. So I would suggest you not try that again.

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Crappy deal MM4.

 

:(:mad:

 

At least your son sees it.

 

Hopefully you and him can maintain your bind through the impending rough times.

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