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youngnlove89 Established Member

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Being a bad boy is good. :p

 

My boyfriend is a good boy during the day. Then he is a bad boy at night.

 

And I'm there to handcuff him and teach him a lesson. ;)

 

But in all honestly, I think the difference really just comes down to being attractive or not. What is attractive to me might not be attractive to someone else though. So my definition of bad guy is Paul Walker, and the good guy is Seth Rogen.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with personality, morals and how they treat someone. Paul Walker could be a really sweet guy, but he has that bad guy appeal (aka he is sexy, fit and has beautiful eyes). Seth Rogen could be a narcissistic punk, but he has that good guy appeal (aka he is chubby, baby face, and his eyes are close together).

 

It's about being attractive or not.

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Emilia Established Member

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Being a bad boy is good. :p

 

My boyfriend is a good boy during the day. Then he is a bad boy at night.

 

And I'm there to handcuff him and teach him a lesson. ;)

I'm sorry I stopped reading your post at this line :bunny:

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therhythm Established Member

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Being a bad boy is good. :p

 

My boyfriend is a good boy during the day. Then he is a bad boy at night.

 

And I'm there to handcuff him and teach him a lesson. ;)

 

But in all honestly, I think the difference really just comes down to being attractive or not. What is attractive to me might not be attractive to someone else though. So my definition of bad guy is Paul Walker, and the good guy is Seth Rogen.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with personality, morals and how they treat someone. Paul Walker could be a really sweet guy, but he has that bad guy appeal (aka he is sexy, fit and has beautiful eyes). Seth Rogen could be a narcissistic punk, but he has that good guy appeal (aka he is chubby, baby face, and his eyes are close together).

 

It's about being attractive or not.

 

Ok, so for you a bad guy or good guy is not about their behavior but about their the attractiveness... that is new :) but I get it ;)

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youngnlove89 Established Member

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Ok, so for you a bad guy or good guy is not about their behavior but about their the attractiveness... that is new :) but I get it ;)

 

Yes. In this case, you are a naughty boy.

 

Hey, just cause I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu, right? ;)

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I agree about the attraction part. When you're ugly you are 1) nice 2) nerdy and 3) weird, when you are attractive you are 1) bad boy 2) smart and 3) charming. Attraction is a very powerful thing and it will shape what other people think about you and how they treat you.

 

It's kind of like the old joke about if you're rich you're the local eccentric, if you're poor your the town weirdo. Rich you're a connoisseur of fine liqueurs, poor you're the town drunk.

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Bad boys are the boys girls want, good boys are the ones they settle with for when they need support. Any single girl with a baby has a bad boy as their baby daddy, while girls with husbands usually have a good boy (most of the time). Okay there really isn't a one-sided fit all definition, but bad boys get to screw and good boys get screwed over, because if a girl is calling you a good boy means she can control you. But, hey guys want good girls too that they can control, but they want bad girls so they can get laid. There is no win-win.

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If you consider the ramifications, the nice guy/jerk dichotomy is the male unimaginative transposition of madonna/whore.

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Bad boys are not necessarily bad people, and good guys are not necessarily good people.

 

The terms as they apply to dating are pretty simple.

 

Good guy: Spineless, shy, lacks confidence.

 

Bad boy: Confident, bold, not afraid to be sexual.

 

That's really all it is.

 

I'm a good person (I'd like to believe I am, but then again don't we all?) but I have an edge.

 

I prefer the term "naughty."

 

If I had to describe myself in one word (it would indescribable :p) I would say naughty more or less fits who I am.

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therhythm Established Member

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Yes. In this case, you are a naughty boy.

 

Hey, just cause I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu, right? ;)

 

Naughty is good ;) it defines me quite well :cool:

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To me, a bad boy is a guy who behaves badly (dishonestly, insincerely) because he knows he'll get women regardless of good or bad behavior.

 

A good guy is a guy who doesn't abuse his "power" (looks, smarts, whatever) by behaving badly, or accepts that his "powers" are limited and works with what he has to have a good life.

 

A "nice guy" is a different creature - neither bad nor good, with a root identity hangup about what kind of man he is.

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You can't fake being bad. It's either there or it isn't and it's painfully obvious if it isn't.

 

A lot of it has to do with conversational skills as well. Men who can manipulate and shape conversations with sharp wit and charisma will give off more of an "in control" vibe that correlates to being considered a bad boy. I've noticed that women are much more responsive while I'm coyly throwing a few well-timed jabs their way as opposed to sitting back and letting them take control of the situation.

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I define a bad boy as someone who is bad for me. The guy who is reckless in all ways (with me, himself, money, etc.) and generally isn't the guy I should be with. I know I should stay away, but I can't.

 

The good guy is the one you should be with. And you know it. He's always there when you need a lift, or your car jump started, or are upset.

 

As others say, there is a middle ground.

It's just finding the middle ground that suits the individual.

Your middle ground may not seem ok for Sunday School Annie, but for me it might be perfect.

It's not something that can be defined overall, it's individual.

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You've got to wonder about use of the word "bad" at times. Does bad, in the "men complaining about women preferring bad boys over nice guys threads" really mean being anything other than a complete suck-up, or somebody who's intensely earnest all the time?

 

That reminds me. There was a poll about various UK male politicians recently - the aim of the poll being to find out which politicians women would be most prepared to have an extra-marital dalliance with.

 

Why do more women want to bed Nigel Farage over David Cameron? - Telegraph

 

As a former member of the notoriously arrogant, alleged "alphamale" bullyboy infested "Bullingdon Club" - and not to mention that he's the Prime Minister - you'd think David Cameron would have women lining up. If the popular male idea of what a bad boy beloved of women entails were true. He was, however, fairly low down the list. No amount of arrogant swaggering alters the fact that he looks like a stuffed toy staring out balefully from the shelves in the January sales. Unwanted by children at Christmas. A mistake made by equally arrogant middle aged marketing men.

 

Bug eyed, almost handsome but vaguely screwy looking Ed Milliband was generally deemed a bit too earnest to be attractive. That's probably the problem a lot of nice guys face. You think "aw, bless" when people are earnest, but it's not very sexy. Nick Clegg did well in the list - a fact that's popularly attributed to him having a good looking wife.

 

Top of the list came Nigel Farage who seems to have achieved the most shaggable politician status through his own efforts (in delivering colourful insults to drab, earnest Eurocrats in Brussels) rather than on his pretty wife's coat-tails.

 

David Cameron's arrogant Bullingdon Boy image is probably what a man would dream up if he were looking to create a "Bad Boy women will love". Nigel Farage is what women are more likely to see as an interesting bad boy. Even if they don't like his politics, or even his looks, the polls don't lie. The combination of comedy and that swashbuckling "I will tell these drab, ludicrously powerful people exactly what I think of them" fearlessness is a draw. I can see it. I don't enjoy the sight of his teeth, and I'm dubious about his politics, but out of that bunch of politicians he's the only one who looks as though he'd be fun and genuinely engaging in bed.

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David Cameron's arrogant Bullingdon Boy image is probably what a man would dream up if he were looking to create a "Bad Boy women will love". Nigel Farage is what women are more likely to see as an interesting bad boy. Even if they don't like his politics, or even his looks, the polls don't lie. The combination of comedy and that swashbuckling "I will tell these drab, ludicrously powerful people exactly what I think of them" fearlessness is a draw. I can see it. I don't enjoy the sight of his teeth, and I'm dubious about his politics, but out of that bunch of politicians he's the only one who looks as though he'd be fun and genuinely engaging in bed.

This proves my theory that most people are stupid. It's not whether his politics are appealing but the fact that most can't see the fact that Farage is a moron. Adjective here used to describe his mental capacity.

 

Anyone that cannot see through stupid must be stupid by definition :(

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This proves my theory that most people are stupid. It's not whether his politics are appealing but the fact that most can't see the fact that Farage is a moron. Adjective here used to describe his mental capacity.

 

Anyone that cannot see through stupid must be stupid by definition :(

 

And there are a lot of stupid people these days. It's like an epidemic.

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This proves my theory that most people are stupid. It's not whether his politics are appealing but the fact that most can't see the fact that Farage is a moron. Adjective here used to describe his mental capacity.

 

Anyone that cannot see through stupid must be stupid by definition :(

 

This could be a sign of my own stupidity, but I genuinely don't think he is stupid. Not in the sense of having a slow working brain, poor recall or difficulty in grasping complex information.

 

I think he's used to projecting a politically incorrect, oafish demeanour in an environment (banking) where it probably worked very well for him. He's transferred that to a different environment where it's also drawing in a lot of people...but when I've seen him participating in political debates, he's very quick on his feet and it's looked to me as though there's more there than just the confidence of the blustering, deliberately offensive oaf.

 

Whether the same could be said of a large proportion of his fanbase is a different matter.

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therhythm Established Member

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Guys... can we come back to the good boys / bad boys thread?

 

There is a political sub forum if you wish to discuss English politics :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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This could be a sign of my own stupidity, but I genuinely don't think he is stupid. Not in the sense of having a slow working brain, poor recall or difficulty in grasping complex information.

 

I think he's used to projecting a politically incorrect, oafish demeanour in an environment (banking) where it probably worked very well for him. He's transferred that to a different environment where it's also drawing in a lot of people...but when I've seen him participating in political debates, he's very quick on his feet and it's looked to me as though there's more there than just the confidence of the blustering, deliberately offensive oaf.

 

I've watched him and read some of the things he said too. I'm taking his personality out of it so it's not a comment on that. I've seen him argue and I think he found a niche for himself quite well but I don't think (luckily for the UK) he knows how to take it beyond a certain point. He is a distraction but I really don't think he has the intellect to build it into anything meaningful. It's a lot of posturing and riding the waves basically.

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Emilia Established Member

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Guys... can we come back to the good boys / bad boys thread?

 

There is a political sub forum if you wish to discuss English politics :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Jeez lucky you never post off topic posts, isn't it? :rolleyes: 'pot kettle black' much?

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Jeez lucky you never post off topic posts, isn't it? :rolleyes: 'pot kettle black' much?

 

;) maybe you are right... but I just want my thread back :lmao::lmao:

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Guys... can we come back to the good boys / bad boys thread?

 

There is a political sub forum if you wish to discuss English politics :rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Apologies for taking your thread off topic. I'll make sure that in future any public figures I refer to for examples (you were asking for examples in the opening post, right?) in these "nice guy/bad boy" discussions are American.

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Apologies for taking your thread off topic. I'll make sure that in future any public figures I refer to for examples in these "nice guy/bad boy" discussions are American.

 

I don't mind the people who you give as examples... I am Dutch so American politics are as interesting to me as the English ones ...

 

As long as we can keep going with what defines a guy as bad or as good ;)

 

I am not trying to be a smart ass... I just don't want my thread derailed ... sorry if that annoys you ;)

Emilia Established Member

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sorry if that annoys you ;)

I think it was the ':rolleyes::rolleyes:' that was annoying.

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therhythm Established Member

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I think it was the ':rolleyes::rolleyes:' that was annoying.

 

:love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love:

 

 

I hope this compensates ;)

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I don't mind the people who you give as examples... I am Dutch so American politics are as interesting to me as the English ones ...

 

As long as we can keep going with what defines a guy as bad or as good ;)

 

I am not trying to be a smart ass... I just don't want my thread derailed ... sorry if that annoys you ;)

 

Well...I appreciate that people like their threads to stay on topic, but sometimes there's a bit of a fine line between asking people to stay on topic and getting (dare I say it) a tiny bit control freakish about what direction the discussion can take.

 

You seemed to be asking for people to define "bad boys" or bad boy traits - I'm guessing, in the context of understanding which ones women find attractive. I thought my post was fairly on topic in that regard, though I appreciate any mention of politicians can quickly take a discussion off track. That's bad boys for you, though. Those bastards always steal the limelight away from the nice guys.

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