Author eastcoastgirl88 Posted June 17, 2013 Author Posted June 17, 2013 Because they are firm and look awesome in jeans. They are not mushy (hopefully) like girl butts! 1
Els Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Why do you like guys butts? I have asked before, but it still baffles me . (rhetorical, I do remember the answer) My version might be biased slightly towards the bf's physique - I like how his butt is so tight and you can even feel muscle through it . So different from my own. Doesn't help that he's been a bad body and needs to be spanked, too... 3
MrCastle Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Dammit. Now I have to add squats to my workout routine
ThaWholigan Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Yep. Hard muscular butts are sexay. It would seem so . Mine is always being groped by girls 2
William Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I'll remind members that this thread is for men to ask 'why girls do the things they do?' It's not a chat thread nor a thread to debate their answers, unless it's to clarify or ask a further question, nor to answer for them. Simple question and answer. Those are the rules. Thanks.
Imajerk17 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Great thread! I have mixed feelings about this. Most of the time I fall into the "I am happy to be a man and play my role and I am happy women are women and play their role" camp. I post in that voice most of the time. BUT sometimes I do fall into the "cripes many women have an entitled mentality" camp. I do get that while we men are expected to empathize what it is like to be a woman, a lot of women really don't think about (or seem to care) what it is like to be a man. While I agree that when it works between a man and a woman, who asked who out first or who bought the first dinner are trivial concerns really. BUT women would do themselves well to realize that the dating experience for many men en route to finding a girlfriend is (a) we plan date (b) we take you out and do our best to show you a good time © we pay (d) we call you again, and (e) you decide "no chemistry" and just ignore all communication from us from now on, no respect of a direct answer, nevermind all the effort we put in (a)--(d). I think a lot of men who are bitter at this "natural order of things", would come across as less bitter if you showed more respect towards us. eastcoastgirl88 I like you, but in your post #15 you showed just how ignorant you are to the realities of being a man. You just don't have a clue do you. We men worry about a lot more than "Make money, stay in shape, have a good career". We also worry about --How do I start a conversation with that cute girl over there without coming across as a weirdo (it can be hard to start conversations with strangers) --How to show her I am interested without coming across as a stalker --How do I make a move on the date so she feels my attraction while at the same time being respectful --How to plan a good dates --How to guide the relationship so it gets off the ground (most of the time, it is on us as women expect to be wooed). --If I say one inappropriate joke will MY career be derailed (or will I lose my own business) because "the reasonable woman" was offended --Keeping a roof over our families' heads during the recession (even in 2013 if the family runs into financial trouble it is always going to be considered THE MAN'S fault). And so on. I was exasperated reading your post #15 frankly. I'm not really asking for things to be changed, but I do wish you and other women would make more of a point to consider things from our point of view too. Edited June 17, 2013 by Imajerk17
KungFuJoe Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Great thread! I have mixed feelings about this. Most of the time I fall into the "I am happy to be a man and play my role and I am happy women are women and play their role" camp. I post in that voice most of the time. BUT sometimes I do fall into the "cripes many women have an entitled mentality" camp. I do get that while we men are expected to empathize what it is like to be a woman, a lot of women really don't think about (or seem to care) what it is like to be a man. While I agree that when it works between a man and a woman, who asked who out first or who bought the first dinner are trivial concerns really. BUT women would do themselves well to realize that the dating experience for many men en route to finding a girlfriend is (a) we plan date (b) we take you out and do our best to show you a good time © we pay (d) we call you again, and (e) you decide "no chemistry" and just ignore all communication from us from now on, no respect of a direct answer, nevermind all the effort we put in (a)--(d). I think a lot of men who are bitter at this "natural order of things", would come across as less bitter if you showed more respect towards us. eastcoastgirl88 I like you, but in your post #15 you showed just how ignorant you are to the realities of being a man. You just don't have a clue do you. We men worry about a lot more than "Make money, stay in shape, have a good career". We also worry about --How do I start a conversation with that cute girl over there without coming across as a weirdo (it can be hard to start conversations with strangers) --How to show her I am interested without coming across as a stalker --How do I make a move on the date so she feels my attraction while at the same time being respectful --How to plan a good dates --How to guide the relationship so it gets off the ground (most of the time, it is on us as women expect to be wooed). --If I say one inappropriate joke will MY career be derailed (or will I lose my own business) because "the reasonable woman" was offended --Keeping a roof over our families' heads during the recession (even in 2013 if the family runs into financial trouble it is always going to be considered THE MAN'S fault). And so on. I was exasperated reading your post #15 frankly. I'm not really asking for things to be changed, but I do wish you and other women would make more of a point to consider things from our point of view too. Umm...I don't think ANY of those things when I'm with a woman...whether it's friends or dating or whatever.
Imajerk17 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Umm...I don't think ANY of those things when I'm with a woman...whether it's friends or dating or whatever. Good for you! Although how long have you been married? I fully admit that all of the above thoughts have occupied space in my head from time to time. Real talk.
KungFuJoe Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Good for you! Although how long have you been married? I fully admit that all of the above thoughts have occupied space in my head from time to time. Real talk. You probably have some form of anxiety, to be honest. The first thing you said about how to talk to a cute girl...that's normal...most people, except for true extroverts, probably feel a bit nervous when talking to someone new, especially someone they find attractive. But all that other stuff about how to plan dates, how to come off as interested but not creepy, etc, etc...I honestly think that falls more on the side of anxiety and is not necessarily what most people stress about when dating. 2
tbf Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 --How do I start a conversation with that cute girl over there without coming across as a weirdo (it can be hard to start conversations with strangers) --How to show her I am interested without coming across as a stalker --How do I make a move on the date so she feels my attraction while at the same time being respectful --How to plan a good dates --How to guide the relationship so it gets off the ground (most of the time, it is on us as women expect to be wooed). --If I say one inappropriate joke will MY career be derailed (or will I lose my own business) because "the reasonable woman" was offended --Keeping a roof over our families' heads during the recession (even in 2013 if the family runs into financial trouble it is always going to be considered THE MAN'S fault).While I didn't agree with all of eastcoastgirl's data points, it appears that my husband doesn't agree with yours either. He feels you're overthinking the issue and if you'd relax and let things happen naturally, you'd have a lot more success and much less anxiety. 3
MrCastle Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Okay I actually have a question. I have not read every page so forgive me in advance if it has been answered already. Now this may just be my personal experience but everytime I turn a girl down for sex for whatever reason, that's the end. I get no more chances. I don't mean I say something like "I don't want to have sex because you smell today." I mean I'll get a text at 2 am from some horny girl inviting me over, but for one reason or another, I'm forced to decline. Usually I have an early day the next day and need to get sleep or I pigged out that day and feel bloated and ugly and not sexual at all--whatever the case may be. I say "oh baby I wish I could but ______, so we'll meet up another time. Cool?" And they'll say "lol...alright cool" That's usually the end. I've never closed a window of opportunity and had it opened again. Once a girl closes that sex window, it stays shut. Whereas for me; anything short of slashing my tires will keep my window open. Even then, if you apologize nicely for slashing them, I might still bang ya. Why do women close the window after one rejection? A reasonable rejection I might add. 1
xxoo Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 You probably have some form of anxiety, to be honest. The first thing you said about how to talk to a cute girl...that's normal...most people, except for true extroverts, probably feel a bit nervous when talking to someone new, especially someone they find attractive. But all that other stuff about how to plan dates, how to come off as interested but not creepy, etc, etc...I honestly think that falls more on the side of anxiety and is not necessarily what most people stress about when dating. While I didn't agree with all of eastcoastgirl's data points, it appears that my husband doesn't agree with yours either. He feels you're overthinking the issue and if you'd relax and let things happen naturally, you'd have a lot more success and much less anxiety. I agree with these reponses, imajerk. I'm surprised you are worrying about losing your job or business because of a bad joke (my god, the jokes I've heard from men as an employee!), or about planning perfect dates, or about shouldering 100% of the burden to support a family (definitely the responsibility of BOTH adults, even if it isn't always 50/50). The most successful flirters I know do well because they really don't care if the come off as a weirdo That anxiety will stand in your way of success! 3
tbf Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 In more than 20 years, my H has never asked for "space". We are in different rooms at the moment, lol, but we are best friends and love to spend our time together. I wonder if the guys who need space in relationships are more introverted? (my guy is hugely extroverted). I'm an introvert, though, and I never need space from him, so....??My take on why some men need space is a matter of incompatibility in most ways, whether love language, introversion v. extraversion, the inability to clearly communicate who you are and what you need, in order to feel loved or to love another. H. is far, far more extroverted than I am. He understands this and if he's feeling social where I'm not, he'll call up friends and go out.
MrCastle Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Okay I actually have a question. I have not read every page so forgive me in advance if it has been answered already. Now this may just be my personal experience but everytime I turn a girl down for sex for whatever reason, that's the end. I get no more chances. I don't mean I say something like "I don't want to have sex because you smell today." I mean I'll get a text at 2 am from some horny girl inviting me over, but for one reason or another, I'm forced to decline. Usually I have an early day the next day and need to get sleep or I pigged out that day and feel bloated and ugly and not sexual at all--whatever the case may be. I say "oh baby I wish I could but ______, so we'll meet up another time. Cool?" And they'll say "lol...alright cool" That's usually the end. I've never closed a window of opportunity and had it opened again. Once a girl closes that sex window, it stays shut. Whereas for me; anything short of slashing my tires will keep my window open. Even then, if you apologize nicely for slashing them, I might still bang ya. Why do women close the window after one rejection? A reasonable rejection I might add. Please?
xxoo Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Please? Are you expecting them to message you again with an offer for sex? That's kind of rare behavior for women to begin with. Once the moment passes....it passes.
MrCastle Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Are you expecting them to message you again with an offer for sex? That's kind of rare behavior for women to begin with. Once the moment passes....it passes. I just don't understand why it has to end? When they proposition me, and I decline, I always take it as "well, now I know she's into me. It's in the bag." So I act like it's all but promised. But when I call or text to set something up when I am in fact free, she declines. If the shoe was on the other foot and she couldn't hook up one day, but was able to the next week--I wouldn't turn her down.
tbf Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Please? Having never done a booty call, your question is impossible to answer.
xxoo Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 I just don't understand why it has to end? When they proposition me, and I decline, I always take it as "well, now I know she's into me. It's in the bag." So I act like it's all but promised. But when I call or text to set something up when I am in fact free, she declines. If the shoe was on the other foot and she couldn't hook up one day, but was able to the next week--I wouldn't turn her down. Texting a guy for casual sex is not typical behavior for most women. It is occasional behavior, if that. Many women would never do it. But we aren't like men. MOst of us aren't up for casual sex just whenever.
Anela Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Why do women demand so much physically from men? According to an article in Men's Health for a man to be considered "fit" he must be able to do 10 things. Did women make this all up? Here are a couple of them. bench 1.5x your bodyweight. I can do barely 40% of my weight. run 1.5 miles in 10 miles. are you kidding? I can do a mile in 15 minutes. I'm not a gazelle. do 40 pushups. I can't do any. throw a basketball 75 feet? What do they want an NBA player? I can't do half that. Women make these impossibly high standards and expect men to meet them. Oh, yeah: I spend my time thinking up more ways to torture men, and will until my dying day. Maybe a competitive man made them up, so that insecure men wouldn't challenge him in the dating department. I have never expected anything like that from anyone!
MrCastle Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Texting a guy for casual sex is not typical behavior for most women. It is occasional behavior, if that. Many women would never do it. But we aren't like men. MOst of us aren't up for casual sex just whenever. Okay, yeah; I agree with that. I'm not expecting her to text me again and proposition me for sex. I'm saying, if she was willing to have sex with me initially (her idea first), what's changed after I tell her I have to take a rain check? Why is it when *I* try to reach out and set something up, she's done. How do you go from wanting to sleep with someone, initiating said sleeping, to not wanting to see them at all?
lop98 Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Living abroad in my early 20s I used to be way more straight-forward than I am now, so I'd do "booty calls" (hate that term) and yes, when turned down, I'd check that guy off the list... I'd understand any sort of excuses as being rejected no matter how valid they sounded.. mostly I was lonely and emotionally involved with a player so there were more layers behind such a simple call. I'd think one or all of the following: - I did something (before or just now) and he's no longer into me, ok... awkward. time to disappear... - he's with someone else and I just sounded like such a loser. I hate that feeling. - boring guy/ weirdo/ uptight/ who does he think he is. that's mostly it, I can only speak for myself though, maybe other girls are more confident... I did know girls that usually just voiced the third option. 1
KungFuJoe Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Okay, yeah; I agree with that. I'm not expecting her to text me again and proposition me for sex. I'm saying, if she was willing to have sex with me initially (her idea first), what's changed after I tell her I have to take a rain check? Why is it when *I* try to reach out and set something up, she's done. How do you go from wanting to sleep with someone, initiating said sleeping, to not wanting to see them at all? Although I can't say I've been in your situation (can't remember the last time I turned down sex. ) but I imagine it's because most women don't put themselves "out there" like that and if you don't bite, they figure you had your chance and it's NEXT!
hoping2heal Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Why do women choose to escalate a situation by not answering.....when a guy asks if something is wrong? For women who do this there could be three main reasons. The first being that is has become a learned behavior. They've witnessed their mothers, aunts, grandmas, and girlfriends do this countless times. Where does the need to do this come from? Insecurity Many women are afraid that if they complain about something the man will lose interest in them or negate the relationship. Women don't want to be perceived as nagging, difficult, combative, etc. Unfortunately, this is counter productive and leads to bigger issues and problems rather than "resolving" them in a manner that leaves the woman's image well in tact. The third option is enter X here
hoping2heal Posted June 17, 2013 Posted June 17, 2013 Why do women give hints instead of telling men directly what they want? As another poster answered, women fear coming across as too aggressive by bluntly stating what they want.
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