Imajerk17 Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 I went to the DRs last week and I came out only 5'6" in socks. And then I had the nerve to approach two women (one taller than me!) and neither was interested! How bad do I suck? :(:( I hear every time a short man approaches a woman G_d kills a kitten. [/sarcasmFont] 3
Treasa Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Socks add to your height? Well ****...I'm always barefoot.
Author Imajerk17 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Posted June 10, 2013 I was hoping that 1/32 of an inch could save my pathetic short self. I shouldn't approach anymore though right? I don't want to subject any woman to the indignation of dating a short guy. (haha) Barefoot is hawt btw....
QforLove Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Maybe the problem isn't your height. Maybe it's your choice of socks. Food for thought. 6
Treasa Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Maybe the problem isn't your height. Maybe it's your choice of socks. Food for thought. Love it!!
Author Imajerk17 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Seriously, my point of all this is that the only things I concern myself with women are the things I can control. --I can control (and improve) my conversational skills. --I can control my tonality and body language. --I can control and do things that show my interest in a way that women appreciate such as touching a woman the right way during a date. --I can avoid doing things that turn off women, such as swearing on a first date. (haha) The things I can't--aka height I don't worry about. If I see a woman I want to meet I go meet her--even if she is taller than I am. She might or might not write me off due to my height but that doesn't matter to me (and sometimes she does not) because I can't do anything about my height so why even concern myself with it. That I think is the big difference between the successful guys and the struggling fellas. Edited June 10, 2013 by Imajerk17 2
Treasa Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 --I can avoid doing things that turn off women, such as swearing on a first date. (haha) Inside joke that I get! YES!! 1
Feelin Frisky Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 The man who built modern America, Andrew Carnegie, was 5'-3". I live on a street that bears his name. Ya make do. 2
Treasa Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Davy Jones was 5'3" and looked, um....well, had those crazy-ass eyebrows. He didn't piss and moan. 1
Estate Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 I went to the DRs last week and I came out only 5'6" in socks. And then I had the nerve to approach two women (one taller than me!) and neither was interested! How bad do I suck? :(:( I hear every time a short man approaches a woman G_d kills a kitten. [/sarcasmFont] Yes, because no man in the history of the earth who was under 5'7" has ever attracted a woman.
CryForNoOne Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I went to the DRs last week and I came out only 5'6" in socks. And then I had the nerve to approach two women (one taller than me!) and neither was interested! How bad do I suck? :(:( I hear every time a short man approaches a woman G_d kills a kitten. [/sarcasmFont] I'm kinda reluctant to say this as it will just fuel the insecurities of all the guys you are mocking, but I've heard snide / snickering comments about short men from almost every tall woman I've ever been with. Just this weekend I was watching a movie with my GF and I commented about the couple in the film "She's taller than he is..." She chuckled while replying "Ya, I'd never date a guy who is shorter than me." Then snuggled closer to me as if further validating she approved that I was tall...
todreaminblue Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I was hoping that 1/32 of an inch could save my pathetic short self. I shouldn't approach anymore though right? I don't want to subject any woman to the indignation of dating a short guy. (haha) Barefoot is hawt btw.... this is really silly....you should still approach...you just arent approaching the right women......some women really dont give two hoots about height...you are taller than me.......most guys are....i have dated a five footer....... he is actually four foot nine.......he had napolean complex though.......the only person in your way as far as getting dates is....you...........concentrate on what is good about you not your short comings that you develop a complex...it doesnt help...deb
SJC2008 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Seriously, my point of all this is that the only things I concern myself with women are the things I can control. --I can control (and improve) my conversational skills. --I can control my tonality and body language. --I can control and do things that show my interest in a way that women appreciate such as touching a woman the right way during a date. --I can avoid doing things that turn off women, such as swearing on a first date. (haha) The things I can't--aka height I don't worry about. If I see a woman I want to meet I go meet her--even if she is taller than I am. She might or might not write me off due to my height but that doesn't matter to me (and sometimes she does not) because I can't do anything about my height so why even concern myself with it. That I think is the big difference between the successful guys and the struggling fellas. You've mentioned tonality and body language a few times, can you elaborte? I thought you were 5'8" btw
SJC2008 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I work with two men who are 5'3" and both have gfs. Another guy I work with is 5'5"/5'6" and he doesn't seem to have a problem meeting women.
Star Gazer Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 You need to change your height on your profile, man!
Author Imajerk17 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) It's on my medical records and my driver's license (I think) that I am 5'8". I had told the DMV and my doctor that I am 5'8" and they bought it. So that is what goes on Match. No worries I make up that missing 1 1/2" in muscle and weight. I'll say more. You want to be thinking about what is high-status behavior and what is low-status behavior. Body language and tonality: Do you speak slowly and evenly (high-status) or do you hurry through your words subconsciously wondering if you will get cut off (low-status). Do you walk with your chest up and shoulders back (high-status you're not afraid to stick your chest out) or do you walk with your shoulders forward and chest in (low-status you want to slink on by so no one will notice you). Yes I realize that this all sounds very "gamey" to some of you reading this [i.e., "Imajerk17 is teaching PUA again and it's making me roll my eyes"] but it is actually what women mean by "confidence" and if you are not "confident", then a good way to learn confidence is by breaking down confident behavior bit by bit and emulating it. Edited June 12, 2013 by Imajerk17
Author Imajerk17 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Posted June 12, 2013 this is really silly....you should still approach...you just arent approaching the right women......some women really dont give two hoots about height...you are taller than me.......most guys are....i have dated a five footer....... he is actually four foot nine.......he had napolean complex though.......the only person in your way as far as getting dates is....you...........concentrate on what is good about you not your short comings that you develop a complex...it doesnt help...deb You got that I was being sarcastic right? Parodying the guys who think it is their height or looks that are holding them back...
Star Gazer Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 It's on my medical records and my driver's license (I think) that I am 5'8". I had told the DMV and my doctor that I am 5'8" and they bought it. So that is what goes on Match. I hope you're not serious. Women tell the DMV and their gynos their weight. Should they be able to lie about their body type as well? Based on all the guys I've met from OLD who showed up shorter than their stated height, I've come to figure that guys on Match who state they are 5'10" or shorter lie about their height by 2 inches. You just proved my point.
Author Imajerk17 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) I hope you're not serious. Women tell the DMV and their gynos their weight. Should they be able to lie about their body type as well? Based on all the guys I've met from OLD who showed up shorter than their stated height, I've come to figure that guys on Match who state they are 5'10" or shorter lie about their height by 2 inches. You just proved my point. Look my point is that 5'8" has been my stated height long before I started OLD. Although I am getting pangs of conscience. Maybe I should change it. BTW I actually don't pay that much attention to the "body type" entry. It's just such a subjective entry. I go by the pictures--full body shots--and even the text (does she work out a lot or play sports). I've usually been pleasantly surprised meeting up and seeing the woman in person. Edited June 12, 2013 by Imajerk17
SteveC80 Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 I think short guys can get dates from women who cant get tall men they may not lust for you like they do tall men but you can be the safe guy who makes her feel secure because shes not with a really hot tallg uy who has tons of options and may cheat on her My good friend does that,she dates short men because she knows theyll be glad just to have her an they arent that in demand to where theyll be tempted to cheat just find one of those
Star Gazer Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 Look my point is that 5'8" has been my stated height long before I started OLD. Although I am getting pangs of conscience. Maybe I should change it. BTW I actually don't pay that much attention to the "body type" entry. It's just such a subjective entry. I go by the pictures--full body shots--and even the text (does she work out a lot or play sports). I've usually been pleasantly surprised meeting up and seeing the woman in person. 1. Maybe that's why you're not having success on OLD. False advertising pisses people off. 2. You should. 3. Just because you don't care if she misrepresents herself doesn't mean it's okay if you do. 1
SJC2008 Posted June 12, 2013 Posted June 12, 2013 I'll say more. You want to be thinking about what is high-status behavior and what is low-status behavior. Body language and tonality: Do you speak slowly and evenly (high-status) or do you hurry through your words subconsciously wondering if you will get cut off (low-status). Do you walk with your chest up and shoulders back (high-status you're not afraid to stick your chest out) or do you walk with your shoulders forward and chest in (low-status you want to slink on by so no one will notice you). Hmm you raise a good point. I've always been a very fast talker, but I have a fast brain but I'm very fast so I thought it was just how I was. I come from a very dysfunctional family so I'm sure that has something to do with it. One thing I'm working on is cutting people off, I don't do it on purpose and hate it but I've gotten a lot better at not doing it. As to the posture I do agree with you, my posture isn't the greatest. TBS I don't know if I'm more intuitive than some men but I've met people with "gym" posture and could still tell they were very insecure so that's not always a good correlation. It goes back to my surface trait theory (whether it's true or not) it seems better to appear strong on the surface.
shexy Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 I'm 5'7, and taller than all but one of my friends.....there are a lot women out there 5'6 and under. Or do you prefer taller women? Or wear big purple 5 inch heeled boots like Prince? (kidding)
dasein Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 I'm kinda reluctant to say this as it will just fuel the insecurities of all the guys you are mocking, but I've heard snide / snickering comments about short men from almost every tall woman I've ever been with. Just this weekend I was watching a movie with my GF and I commented about the couple in the film "She's taller than he is..." She chuckled while replying "Ya, I'd never date a guy who is shorter than me." Then snuggled closer to me as if further validating she approved that I was tall... It's real, have experienced exactly what you describe through friends and GFs, and it's why I try to cut some slack to all the height threads on here as repetitive as they can get.
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