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As an inexperienced 27 year old male, it's hard not being bitter, because I will not know what it's like to make love to a young woman. Even if I start getting laid in my 30s to women my age or slightly younger, the loss is still there...they would not be the same or as hot as their younger selves.

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If there is one and only one infallible, cruel law of human interaction, it is:

 

A man discussing (perceived as "whining about") his inability to get laid only makes himself leagues more un****able to the woman listener.

 

It is understandable to feel frustrated, angry and a bunch of other unpleasantness about your situation. It may be hard to mask the frustration. But the vibe that this attitude gives off is detected better than radar picks up airplanes. And that only sabotages you more.

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If there is one and only one infallible, cruel law of human interaction, it is:

 

A man discussing (perceived as "whining about") his inability to get laid only makes himself leagues more un****able to the woman listener.

 

It is understandable to feel frustrated, angry and a bunch of other unpleasantness about your situation. It may be hard to mask the frustration. But the vibe that this attitude gives off is detected better than radar picks up airplanes. And that only sabotages you more.

 

I realized this, and I don't say these things in public. I'm just lamenting the lost time and not getting with women in their sexual prime.

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Do you know why you are not getting any girls?

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Do you know why you are not getting any girls?

 

It doesn't matter. I've already lost. I will never make love to a young woman.

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Well, hopefully you will get to make love to a woman, even if she isn't as young and hot as she may have been in her teens/early 20s. And hopefully when you do, you are able to appreciate and enjoy the experience instead of lamenting over what you are missing out on.

 

I will probably never know what it is like to be a millionaire. Or have another child. Or date Bradley Cooper. Or have a 28 carat diamond necklace around my neck. Or be a supermodel. Or take a year off work and travel around the world.

 

But every day I have the choice. I can be grateful for what I have, or I can be sad about what I do not have. I can be happy, or I can be miserable and bitter.

 

Rather than sitting around being sad about it and sighing "I've lost.", what can you do to improve your odds? Why do you think you haven't slept with a woman yet, and what is within your control to change it? Can you become physically more attractive? (working out, dressing better, better grooming, etc.) Can you become socially more attractive? (smile, make friends, talk to girls?) Can you become intellectually more attractive? (be knowledgeable, be interesting, have hobbies?)

 

Take control of that which is in your control and MOVE FORWARD. Don't waste your time sitting in a corner pouting, especially if you think the clock is ticking for reaching a certain goal.

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Just pay for a young hooker. You know the women who will make love to you won't exactly be winners either lol

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I realized this, and I don't say these things in public. I'm just lamenting the lost time and not getting with women in their sexual prime.

 

I understand. And the frustration you feel is among the most primal feelings out there. I am just trying to

a) be sympathetic,

b) suggest that you have to, HAVE TO, find ways to achieve some piece and work through the resentment. Punching bag, yoga, shooting range, new hobbies, therapy , whatever. Easier aid than done, I know. But resentment kept inside radiates out like a toxic cloud that just screws you over more.

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Just concentrate on your life... get your s. together, be awesome, don't care what others think of you. Be successful and they will come calling.

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I realized this, and I don't say these things in public. I'm just lamenting the lost time and not getting with women in their sexual prime.

 

 

women hit their sexual primes in their mid to late 30's. Men hit their prime in their late teens to early twenties. So actually you can get a woman in her sexual prime, but she won't get you at yours.

 

I know that if someone expressed to me that he wished that he would have been able to have sex with me when I was "younger and hotter" it would certainly kill any sexual momentum that had been building.

 

You should stop feeling sorry for not completing what is ultimately a fantasy and start looking for actual experiences with women your own age. It's not like a 27 year old woman is an old hag already.

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It doesn't matter. I've already lost. I will never make love to a young woman.

 

Never say never. As long as you're alive, there's always a chance.

 

You are not that old to get a young woman. I am 33. Sometimes I think to myself, "what the hell were you thinking when you were in your 20s" I don't know why I did not think about women. Now I am trying to make up for lost time.

 

If all else fails, there's always the escort. Personally, I would not go that route.

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Look on the bright side...

At least you miss the whole awkward 17 year old sex phase.

It's not as fun as you think it is.

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It's not like a 27 year old woman is an old hag already.

 

This is true, but based on what I've seen, women seem to start to become jaded around this age and shall I say... "difficult". The ROI seems to decrease. You have more requirements to fulfill to get said women but you get less from her in return.

 

I'd like the quote this excellent statement by Revolver. He was right on the money with this one:

 

I believe when some women get to a certain age they see so much game,so much bs, been played by so many guys, that when a real nice man comes along they right him off instantly and see it as fake. It has to be some kind of act

 

And that's the truth.

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It's not as fun as you think it is.

 

It has to be, or else people wouldn't be doing it.

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It has to be, or else people wouldn't be doing it.

 

In hindsight it's not as fun.

I kind of thought it was at the time, but now I realise it was amateur hour and a big disappointment.

 

We persevere because we think that's all it will be. And then... Well, we all know what happens.

 

MrHand just skips that part and gets straight to the goodness.

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women hit their sexual primes in their mid to late 30's. Men hit their prime in their late teens to early twenties. So actually you can get a woman in her sexual prime, but she won't get you at yours.

 

Just need to clarify something here...by sexual prime, you must be talking about sexual appetite, yes...? Because for sexual desirability, you might have the genders reversed in your "stat"...

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The bitterness is becoming too much for me. I have received more rejections than most people on this forum. I am trying to improve myself, but nothing is working. I don't know if my height of 5 feet is the reason, but I keep hearing that it is. I hired a dating coach, but so far no improvement. I actually think that killing myself would end the pain. I am sick and tired of this and if my luck does not improve, I might actually end it

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Just need to clarify something here...by sexual prime, you must be talking about sexual appetite, yes...? Because for sexual desirability, you might have the genders reversed in your "stat"...

 

I don't quote statistics about subjective things like "desirability" since not everyone has the same preferences. What you find desirable might be repulsive to the next person.

 

My statistic is from the Kinsey Institute on when people reach their capacity for sustained, enjoyable (for themselves and their partner) sex.

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The bitterness is becoming too much for me. I have received more rejections than most people on this forum. I am trying to improve myself, but nothing is working. I don't know if my height of 5 feet is the reason, but I keep hearing that it is. I hired a dating coach, but so far no improvement. I actually think that killing myself would end the pain. I am sick and tired of this and if my luck does not improve, I might actually end it

 

Come on mate, this isn't even your thread.

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My statistic is from the Kinsey Institute on when people reach their capacity for sustained, enjoyable (for themselves and their partner) sex.

 

If you're talking about capacity, then yes, I'd agree that older women and younger men tend to have a higher capacity and desire to have sex.

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If you're talking about capacity, then yes, I'd agree that older women and younger men tend to have a higher capacity and desire to have sex.

 

Good ;) Now that I have won you over on that point, maybe we can work together to convince the OP that women in their late 20's and 30's are still beautiful, "hot", and willing to participate in a caring, intimate relationship and you will actually have a lot less drama because everyone involved has matured significantly from the volatile younger years.

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I've read everyone's posts. Thank you for thoughts.

 

Good ;) Now that I have won you over on that point, maybe we can work together to convince the OP that women in their late 20's and 30's are still beautiful, "hot", and willing to participate in a caring, intimate relationship and you will actually have a lot less drama because everyone involved has matured significantly from the volatile younger years.

 

The problem is that any woman that age would be my first...while she would undoubtedly be more experienced. I would have to learn through her all sorts of things people my age should be able to deal with by now, like jealousy/fighting etc.

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Good ;) Now that I have won you over on that point, maybe we can work together to convince the OP that women in their late 20's and 30's are still beautiful, "hot", and willing to participate in a caring, intimate relationship and you will actually have a lot less drama because everyone involved has matured significantly from the volatile younger years.

 

Now let's not get carried away... :p:laugh:

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I've read everyone's posts. Thank you for thoughts.

 

 

 

The problem is that any woman that age would be my first...while she would undoubtedly be more experienced. I would have to learn through her all sorts of things people my age should be able to deal with by now, like jealousy/fighting etc.

 

Hold on..

I thought we were just talking sexually here..?

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Hold on..

I thought we were just talking sexually here..?

 

I have a lot of fears and concerns regarding women.

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