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Guys what you think of girls that carry weapons on a date?

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sweetkiwi Established Member

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In california I always carried two cans of pepper spray and a knife that could cut through bone. Yet still I was attacked and didn't even think to grab the spray or the knife.

 

When I multidated I never allowed them to see where I lived until I trusted them. A few men never even got my phone number, only a time and place via a dating site. I always met them in busy places downtown where there were always police officers.

 

I am two inches shorter than the OP and strong for my size, but would never even consider bringing a gun on a date unless we were going to the range. And if I was a man I'd be creeped out by the OP.

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LittleTiger Established Member

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I only meant it as a small topic. I wasn't planning to talk about it for too long either and was gonna put it away.

 

How did I miss this one? :lmao:

 

Getting out your gun on a date is something you consider a small topic? :eek::D

 

I'm delighted to hear that you were planning to put it away at some point! Although walking around with a gun in your hand, or sitting with it on the table in front of you, could have added a certain 'je ne sais quoi' to your date I suppose. You would certainly have had plenty of privacy! :laugh:

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mammasita Established Member

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I'd walk out and call the police and report you for carrying offensive weapons and firearms.

 

If it's both legal and socially normal where you are then your dating partners may be more relaxed about it!

 

It's perfectly legal to carry a gun as long as its not concealed.....

 

Personally, I'd opt for a concealed carry permit. Nobody needs to know.

Eddie Edirol Established Member

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Any women who was so paranoid as to carry a gun on a first date, I would think she was immediately nuts and I'd walk on out on her. You might need to get to know the guy enough to the point where you can go on a first date in public without the need for a gun, otherwise you just come off as creepy. of course you can only do that so much online, but good grief, just use the pepper spray, or stay in the house. Or find a gun advocate dating site, then the guy will carry a gun on the date too.

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Eclypse Established Member

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Sorry I'd dump you... I don't want guns anywhere near me. You'd go to jail for having a gun here anyway. Seriously what is it with you Americans? Maybe if you were dating in Democratic Republic of the Congo but in a civilised country???

 

I prefer my guns to stay on Call of Duty, and besides this stuff wouldn't be very useful if you got attacked. Like Elswyth said if he grabs you by surprise then not even an AK47 will save you. I can see this working if he lunges at you from a distance? Or do you keep a hand on your gun the whole time? How fast can you draw (compared to Clint Eastwood)? Anyway, believe it or not, a simple set of keys wedged between your fingers is a really good weapon. You can seriously **** someone up with that.

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tman666 Established Member

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As someone with a concealed carry permit who does carry fairly regularly, I always figured that the key word in concealed carry is "concealed"...;)

 

Meaning, why would you even consider bringing this up in conversation? If he saw your piece on accident (which is YOUR faux pas) and asked about it, then just say you carry it everywhere. Don't make a big deal about "well, you're a stranger, and when I meet strangers, blah blah blah".

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tman666 Established Member

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Also, I don't know about the laws where you are, but Colorado statutes prohibit carrying concealed (even with a permit) if you've had any alcohol.

 

I'm assuming most dates include drinks?

 

Basically, I'm thinking you might want to re-evaluate bringing a gun to a date in the first place, as well as possibly spend some time brushing up on your state's laws regarding this.

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HokeyReligions Established Member

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I never thought about it dating. I always carry and I guess if I was dating that wouldn't change. But I don't advertise it. He might be packing too!

 

Actually I think if I was not clicking with someone and knew I wouldn't see him again I would keep silent. OTOH if we clicked and were planning future dates going to a shooting range together would be fun.

 

Its interesting to read male opinions. I think feelings about this will be dramatically different depending on geographic location.

 

This touches on another topic but I wish Gun Safety and firearms were required classes beginning in grade school. IMHO education about guns and gun safety would reduce fears and be the best "gun control" step the country could take.

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tman666 Established Member

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I never thought about it dating. I always carry and I guess if I was dating that wouldn't change. But I don't advertise it. He might be packing too!

 

Actually I think if I was not clicking with someone and knew I wouldn't see him again I would keep silent. OTOH if we clicked and were planning future dates going to a shooting range together would be fun.

 

Its interesting to read male opinions. I think feelings about this will be dramatically different depending on geographic location.

 

This touches on another topic but I wish Gun Safety and firearms were required classes beginning in grade school. IMHO education about guns and gun safety would reduce fears and be the best "gun control" step the country could take.

 

This x 1,000.

 

It's funny, I mentioned that I think gun safety should be taught in public schools at a young age once on LS (way back), and I got all kinds of grief for it.

ptp Established Member

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One of my rules of dating is: If she is carrying a bigger piece in her pants than I am in mine, it's a no go.

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ptp Established Member

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This x 1,000.

 

It's funny, I mentioned that I think gun safety should be taught in public schools at a young age once on LS (way back), and I got all kinds of grief for it.

 

Oh jeez

 

We can't even teach our kids to read, write and do math, but we should teach gun safety?

 

:rolleyes:

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carhill Established Member

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I always carry both pepper spray and my own gun on a first date (have two riffles at home too), when meeting a complete stranger. At the same time I do know some self-defense moves but there might be times where that alone won't stop someone that's too large.

 

Guys, what would you think if either the girl brought this up in a conversation or you found out about it by accident?

 

IMO, if you normally carry and are CCW/LTC and consistently train, we'd have a topic for conversation. I think it's healthier to follow customary practice rather than deviate for dating, if carrying is your customary practice.

 

I don't generally worry about what women choose to do for purposes of self-defense since they won't be needing that training with myself.

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MercuryMorrison1 Established Member

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Well here's my take on the initial question posted by the OP.

 

I don't mind women carrying protection on dates...The sad fact is, is that the world is a dangerous place were terrible things happen with regularity. But in contrast to that.

 

If I were on a date and a women flashed a gun to me as if to ''warn'' me to not try anything...The date would be over then and there. I would simply take that as an unwarranted threat. If you as a woman carry pepper spray and/or a gun on a first date that's fine with me honestly...But you don't broadcast what you have, to most people that will probably make you come off a little psycho.

 

My advice to you is...Carry it, and use it ONLY if its absolutely needed...Otherwise don't even bring it up in conversation.

tman666 Established Member

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Oh jeez

 

We can't even teach our kids to read, write and do math, but we should teach gun safety?

 

:rolleyes:

 

My opinion remains the same. The greater failings of our public school system is not what is being discussed here (though you bring up a good point regarding that).

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carhill Established Member

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If I were on a date and a women flashed a gun to me as if to ''warn'' me to not try anything...The date would be over then and there. I would simply take that as an unwarranted threat.

 

That sounds reasonable and my response, in my jurisdiction, would be to advise her that such brandishing could/would leave her subject to arrest and revocation of her CCW. This presumes she 'flashes' in public. Her response to that advisory would indicate whether the date would proceed or not.

runningfar Established Member

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I wouldn't bring it up.

 

I have a concealed carry and I am armed at all times, but bringing it up sounds like a threat or paranoia.

(Okay not all times. That's an overstatement. But there's usually one in my car if not on me)

Unless the topic is guns, concealed carry, competitive shooting, etc anyway

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runningfar Established Member

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Can you imagine if you were on a date with a guy and he randomly brought up he brought a gun on the date? Would you even second guess running?

ltjg45 Established Member

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I'm more liable to carry some form of weapon on me than most males since I have issues trusting anyone initially and, even then, if I were to date a female, I would still leave unarmed.

 

Maybe it's not such a wise idea anymore.

 

If I find out my date has a bigger (and better) weapon on her than I do, I'm bolting just like that guy did. I can't blame him not one bit for running away scared.

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As someone with a concealed carry permit who does carry fairly regularly, I always figured that the key word in concealed carry is "concealed"...;)

 

Meaning, why would you even consider bringing this up in conversation? If he saw your piece on accident (which is YOUR faux pas) and asked about it, then just say you carry it everywhere. Don't make a big deal about "well, you're a stranger, and when I meet strangers, blah blah blah".

 

What he said.

 

If you want to CCW that is fine just keep it concealed, there are laws concerning that, people aren't supposed to be able to see it/not supposed to show it to someone else that sort of thing.

 

edit: I have a CCW as well, I got one after being robbed at gunpoint

TheGuard13 Established Member

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Agree! Statistically, there is more chance of her getting shot with her own gun - especially if she's out with a psycho guy who is bigger and stronger than she is.

 

This. If you carry a concealed weapon, you'd better be good and ready to make damn sure that NO ONE is able to take it from you and use it against you, or another innocent person.

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carhill Established Member

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Having been on a lot of dates with women and out with women in public thousands of times, I can state I never gave a second thought to what was in their handbag or on their person. Hence, if the lady kept her pepper spray and her gun concealed, as they should be, and didn't make a big deal out of them, I'd be none the wiser. In fact, if asked, I'd advise to never disclose any sort of armed condition, except to a LEO if in contact with one. That's the whole point of 'concealed'. Having interacted with a number of lady shooters coming and going from the outdoor range we shoot at, I would never know they were carrying if they weren't spitting the brass in the stalls. That's fine with me.

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I'm not surprised your date freaked out - even if you're in the US where you all seem to own guns. If carrying a gun is 'normal' behaviour over there, what exactly was the purpose of showing it to him? To 'warn' him that he'd better keep his distance or he'll end up with a bullet through him? Scary!!! :eek::eek::eek:

 

I've pretty much lived in the US my entire life, and never have I seen someone with a gun besides the cops. That said, they COULD just be concealed with a permit, but I think most non-ghetto urban/suburban areas tend to be void of firearms.

 

 

 

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Where the hell do you live where men can attack women in public places and not have the cops called on them? :rolleyes:

 

Wasn't there those cases of people being assaulted in public and no one doing anything about it or calling the cops? I know in the Netherlands, there was an incident where a woman was raped in broad daylight in the street (not alley), and no one called the cops. I know there was a woman who was chased down by her ex and stabbed multiple times(while trying to get away), all while screaming, and the people living in the area didn't call the cops or help her. In crowded areas, I think there's this phenomenon, where people either assume that someone else already probably called the cops, or that it'd be awkward if it was just a normal dispute, etc. This is also reinforced by stories of people who do interfere only to be in the wrong (like the situation wasn't one that called for "interference").

 

 

 

How about you date from your social circle or on recommendation by friends only (vetted) or date cops.

 

Neither of those would necessarily be safe either. In college, a lot of the "rape cases" happen with someone the woman knows and thought was safe, similar to in the way a lot of pedophiles are often family friends or other trusted members of the community. Also cops.... not necessarily safe either. If you KNEW he was a good man, then maybe, but otherwise.... well... I think we all have known cops to do some horrid things before.

 

 

 

On OP, if I knew my date had a gun, I'd run for my life. There's risk of death every day from all sorts of sources (car crashes being the most common in my age bracket), and knowing some of these aren't fully under my control is part of what makes me a rational human being. I'd be too scared of the mind of someone who feels like they can and must control every possible bad circumstance. And I think some people on this thread already mentioned, having defensive tools don't necessarily help.... rape is often a mental thing as well as a physical, and the sheer violence can sometimes shock you into not being able to use your defensive tools. After all, it's an act based around the concept of controlling another person.

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ImperfectionisBeauty Established Member

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I carry pepper spray I am getting my license to carry a consealed weapon though

will1988 Established Member

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I always carry both pepper spray and my own gun on a first date (have two riffles at home too), when meeting a complete stranger. At the same time I do know some self-defense moves but there might be times where that alone won't stop someone that's too large.

 

Guys, what would you think if either the girl brought this up in a conversation or you found out about it by accident?

 

Fortunately, I've never met a violent man and none have even gotten in my face. But you never know. If someone tried to (even if it was a bf) then I would either maze him immediately or shoot him if I have to (if neither my moves nor mazing worked out).

 

Though, I have to admit one guy actually freaked out when I brought this conversation and quickly got out of the table and left. Never heard from him again. Too much of a reaction IMO. I'm just trying to look after myself. Afterall, with some guys not even a kick in the balls nor a good hit in the jaw would make him stop from attacking and it would do nothing but pissed him off more than I'm toasted (I'm only 5'3).

 

I like guns and am around them frequently... I have no problem if a girl has a gun in her pocket book... hell that would actually turn me on alittle bit. lol :p

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Where the hell do you live where men can attack women in public places and not have the cops called on them? :rolleyes:

 

As an aside:

 

When I was about 10 years old, a tragic incident unfolded at a grocery store that our family frequented. One of the grocery store worker's estranged husband came into the store in a rage (with a gun), in broad daylight, and started to drag the worker out of the store by her hair, repeatedly yelling that he was going to kill her.

 

Obviously, people took notice of this, especially since she was begging for someone to help her.

 

Good Samaritan No. 1 attempted, while still in the store, to verbally engage (reason with) with the attacker. He was shot dead.

 

The woman was then dragged out into the parking lot of the store. Good Samaritan No. 2, while in the parking lot, attempted to sneak up on the attacker and physically overpower him. He was also shot and killed.

 

The attacker then proceeded to shoot the woman in the head (dead), and then shoot himself in the head (dead). The incident was over by that point, with 4 people dead, three of them completely innocent.

 

The time that elapsed from when the attacker entered the store to when the last shot was fired, with his suicide, was less than 4 minutes. Yes the police were immediately called. They were not able to get there in time to stop any of this.

 

This all happened in a medium sized town, with a well funded, well trained police force, and average crime levels. It is no ghetto.

 

To cut to the chase: while the possibility is remote, stuff like this does happen, even in good areas, even among "good" people. My personal philosophy, when it comes to personal safety, is that each person is responsible for their own. I think there's a tendency of some people to think that "calling the police" is the end all of self protection. They get lulled into a sense of comfort knowing that the cops are basically a few button pushes away. However, as demonstrated by the incident above, a lot can happen in the span between when the call is made and when the cops arrive on scene.

 

I don't mean to sound like I'm pushing an agenda here either. I think it's fine for someone to be anti-gun and anti-concealed carry. That said, I think there are some very real reasons that some people might consider arming themselves that have nothing to do with any sort of "John Wayne", cowboy, "bad ass" mentality.

 

Basically, I asked myself whether or not I'd ever be able to forgive myself if I were to find myself in a situation where I was utterly reliant on someone else (the police) to protect my loved ones, and I wasn't able to do anything but stand by and be helpless. I basically choose not to be helpless, though I pray that I never am in a situation where I'm forced to use it.

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