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I always carry both pepper spray and my own gun on a first date (have two riffles at home too), when meeting a complete stranger. At the same time I do know some self-defense moves but there might be times where that alone won't stop someone that's too large.

 

Guys, what would you think if either the girl brought this up in a conversation or you found out about it by accident?

 

Fortunately, I've never met a violent man and none have even gotten in my face. But you never know. If someone tried to (even if it was a bf) then I would either maze him immediately or shoot him if I have to (if neither my moves nor mazing worked out).

 

Though, I have to admit one guy actually freaked out when I brought this conversation and quickly got out of the table and left. Never heard from him again. Too much of a reaction IMO. I'm just trying to look after myself. Afterall, with some guys not even a kick in the balls nor a good hit in the jaw would make him stop from attacking and it would do nothing but pissed him off more than I'm toasted (I'm only 5'3).

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Pepper spray is fine and socially acceptable for women to carry on a date, but a gun isn't. Doesn't matter how you rationalize your response to your fears, carrying a gun on a date is just nuts. If you're so terrified that you'd bring a lethal weapon around with you, instead meet in a public place on your first couple dates, like a restaurant.

 

Not sure if I'd walk out if a girl told me that on a date, but it's possible. Not just because of the gun itself, but the fact that she'd broadcast it and would think it's acceptable to do so.

 

Also can't believe that you come out and state that you'd consider using a gun on your BF. Seek help.

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Pepper spray is fine and socially acceptable for women to carry on a date, but a gun isn't. Doesn't matter how you rationalize your response to your fears, carrying a gun on a date is just nuts. If you're so terrified that you'd bring a lethal weapon around with you, instead meet in a public place on your first couple dates, like a restaurant.
I think it's the fact of how scary and nuts the world is coming esp in this age with burglars, date rapes, abusive bfs that go crazy one day, getting lured into a trap, maniacs, etc. Too many bad news every day.

Not sure if I'd walk out if a girl told me that on a date, but it's possible. Not just because of the gun itself, but the fact that she'd broadcast it and would think it's acceptable to do so.
Well he has a WTF and concerned look in his face when I not only told him but showed it. So much for protecting myself that he acted like he seemed a ghost.

Also can't believe that you come out and state that you'd consider using a gun on your BF. Seek help.
If it's complete self-defense and he tries to seriously hurt and he's trapping me (as in I can't leave and he blocks my exit) then yes I would use it. And no, it has never gotten to that point. This also applies to robbers. Edited by OldNavyMaid
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Guys, what would you think if either the girl brought this up in a conversation or you found out about it by accident?

 

I'd walk out and call the police and report you for carrying offensive weapons and firearms.

 

If it's both legal and socially normal where you are then your dating partners may be more relaxed about it!

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Wow, that this is a real issue blew me away. :eek::confused:

 

I am happy to live somewhere where going on a date in a public place would not require me to even vaguely consider any chance of risk of physical harm...

 

I suggest you put all the guns away and the pepper spray and move to a safer place than whatever crazy dangerous place you live in. Then you can go about your daily life without an imminent fear of being attacked...

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Now ChessPieceFace, the gun would only be as the last resort if all of the options didn't work and he proceed on to do something bad to me. Though, I would just shoot him to disable him (in either the leg, shoulder or stomach) then get away and call the police.

 

If it gets to the point he wants to kill me, nothing worked and I'm concerned then yes I would shoot the hell out of him.

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Now ChessPieceFace, the gun would only be as the last resort if all of the options didn't work and he proceed on to do something bad to me. Though, I would just shoot him to disable him (in either the leg, shoulder or stomach) then get away and call the police.

 

If it gets to the point he wants to kill me, nothing worked and I'm concerned then yes I would shoot the hell out of him.

 

The issue isn't that your scenario is impossible. The issue is that you think it's likely enough to prepare for it, plan for it and consider it, carrying guns on dates and planning out what areas of your boyfriend's body you plan to shoot.

 

If you can't understand this then I think it's a lost cause.

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I'm a very cautious person so I can understand you wanting to carry something like pepper spray, although I don't think it's legal in the UK. Most self-defence classes usually suggest carrying a rape alarm, or if you need something to spray then a bottle of perfume or deodorant.

 

The idea of carrying a gun at any time is just horrific to me!!! :eek:

 

I'm not surprised your date freaked out - even if you're in the US where you all seem to own guns. If carrying a gun is 'normal' behaviour over there, what exactly was the purpose of showing it to him? To 'warn' him that he'd better keep his distance or he'll end up with a bullet through him? Scary!!! :eek::eek::eek:

 

If you feel that unsafe when you're going out on a date (presumably in a public place), I think it might be advisable for you to get therapy.

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The issue isn't that your scenario is impossible. The issue is that you think it's likely enough to prepare for it, plan for it and consider it, carrying guns on dates and planning out what areas of your boyfriend's body you plan to shoot.

 

If you can't understand this then I think it's a lost cause.

It's better than if I were to assumed nothing will happen and be completely unarmed.

 

My cousin knows someone that got raped by a guy she knew and all because she was very trusting and never thought this would happened until the guy surrounded her and she had nothing to defend herself with. See what I mean? Unless it's my own brother or closed relative or I've dated a bf for a while and he never gave me a reason to distrust him then it's better to the let your guard down with strangers.

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She's right this world is dangerous...all those gun toting ladies!

 

I fail to understand how she will get her gun out and be able to use it if she's being attacked. By then it's too late.

 

I went on a few dates with a little 5'3 girl who does karate classes. I tried not to laugh when she said she could defend herself from me...6'2 200lbs, lifelong athlete. Because it's about "quickness and using my strength against me". This as we were taking a dark walk in a park on our 1st date. I loved her confidence but come on!

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She's right this world is dangerous...all those gun toting ladies!

 

I fail to understand how she will get her gun out and be able to use it if she's being attacked. By then it's too late.

 

I went on a few dates with a little 5'3 girl who does karate classes. I tried not to laugh when she said she could defend herself from me...6'2 200lbs, lifelong athlete. Because it's about "quickness and using my strength against me". This as we were taking a dark walk in a park on our 1st date. I loved her confidence but come on!

Yet the guy that freaked out and left was of your same frame. He was also 6'2 and close to your weight.

 

When I told my female friends that, they all end up laughing and thought it was funny. I mean. Yeah like you said. My life would be more threatened if I didn't defended myself against a very large guy on time while he would have practically nothing to be afraid of nor concerned about.

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I fail to understand how she will get her gun out and be able to use it if she's being attacked. By then it's too late.

 

I went on a few dates with a little 5'3 girl who does karate classes. I tried not to laugh when she said she could defend herself from me...6'2 200lbs, lifelong athlete. Because it's about "quickness and using my strength against me". This as we were taking a dark walk in a park on our 1st date. I loved her confidence but come on!

 

I agree! Statistically, there is more chance of her getting shot with her own gun - especially if she's out with a psycho guy who is bigger and stronger than she is.

 

I'm 5'3" and pretty strong for my size. My guy is 5'11" and very strong. He can practically immobilise me with one hand.

 

Dating can be dangerous for women but there are better ways to minimise the risks than to carry a lethal weapon!

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Yet the guy that freaked out and left was of your same frame. He was also 6'2 and close to your weight.

 

When I told my female friends that, they all end up laughing and thought it was funny. I mean. Yeah like you said. My life would be more threatened if I didn't defended myself against a very large guy on time while he would have practically nothing to be afraid of nor concerned about.

 

Of course he was freaked out! :eek: You could have killed him without even moving from your seat!

 

You haven't answered my question as to why you showed him the gun during your date. What was the purpose of letting him know you were armed?

 

.......and perhaps you can tell us how you would react if a guy showed you he was armed while you were out on a date with him? I don't imagine you would have hung around for long! Or maybe you would have pulled yours too and started a shoot-out! :laugh:

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Where the hell do you live where men can attack women in public places and not have the cops called on them? :rolleyes:

 

Or are you inviting complete strangers to your home or meeting them in lonely places? That's an act of stupidity that even an AK-47 won't help with...

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I agree! Statistically, there is more chance of her getting shot with her own gun - especially if she's out with a psycho guy who is bigger and stronger than she is.
Hence why guns aren't to be use as first resort. My first option would be pepper spray.
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Hence why guns aren't to be use as first resort. My first option would be pepper spray.

 

.....but showing a date your gun is your first line of defence?

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You haven't answered my question as to why you showed him the gun during your date. What was the purpose of letting him know you were armed?
Just letting him know that I can protect myself but it was just a random topic I brought about self-defense. But he assumed the worst.

 

.......and perhaps you can tell us how you would react if a guy showed you he was armed while you were out on a date with him? I don't imagine you would have hung around for long! Or maybe you would have pulled yours too and started a shoot-out! :laugh:
Well if it was just a topic, there was no bad intention as in ''Just letting you know I can use it against you at any time'', he had owned those weapons for a long while just like me than and only would use in extreme self-defense then ok. I would also showed him I'm armed as well too.

 

Though I would have a very hard time as to why a guy (assuming he is bigger and stronger as most guys are; not some midget) would need protection from me and might reconsider the date.

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.....but showing a date your gun is your first line of defence?
I only meant it as a small topic. I wasn't planning to talk about it for too long either and was gonna put it away.
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It's better than if I were to assumed nothing will happen and be completely unarmed.

 

You can have pepper spray. The fact that you ignore this shows once again that you aren't seeing things rationally.

 

My cousin knows someone that got raped by a guy she knew and all because she was very trusting and never thought this would happened until the guy surrounded her and she had nothing to defend herself with. See what I mean?

 

Did she have pepper spray?

 

Unless it's my own brother or closed relative or I've dated a bf for a while and he never gave me a reason to distrust him then it's better to the let your guard down with strangers.

 

Here's a question - how's the pepper spray and gun going to protect you when your date drugs you?

 

Probably best not to leave the house, ever.

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I always carry pepper spray on me, do date or not I carry it.

 

 

 

 

 

A gun? No.

Not sure if it is legal where you are, but even so, I would be freaked out going on a date with someone who said they had a gun on them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Be smart, plan public dates.

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You can have pepper spray. The fact that you ignore this shows once again that you aren't seeing things rationally.
Hence, why that's my first option. That comes way before the gun.

Did she have pepper spray?
No, she didn't. She was totally naivee.

Here's a question - how's the pepper spray and gun going to protect you when your date drugs you?
I'm not a very trusting woman and don't accept drinks without opening the bottle myself. In addition, I'm not really a drinker and don't go to parties too often (if so then it's generally with my female friends and we always look out for one another).

I don't go to a random guy's house nor invite him over on the very first date. No chance he would spike my drink.

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I always carry pepper spray on me, do date or not I carry it.

 

A gun? No.

Not sure if it is legal where you are, but even so, I would be freaked out going on a date with someone who said they had a gun on them.

You seem to have a point. Maybe the gun is overdoing it since I haven't use it on anyone. But the pepper spray will always be a must.

Be smart, plan public dates.
Off course. I would never meet him on an absolutely deserted place no one goes to at night.
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Just letting him know that I can protect myself but it was just a random topic I brought about self-defense. But he assumed the worst.

 

Well if it was just a topic, there was no bad intention as in ''Just letting you know I can use it against you at any time'', he had owned those weapons for a long while just like me than and only would use in extreme self-defense then ok. I would also showed him I'm armed as well too.

 

Though I would have a very hard time as to why a guy (assuming he is bigger and stronger as most guys are; not some midget) would need protection from me and might reconsider the date.

 

Come on, seriously!!!

 

You are clearly a very cautious woman (some would say over-cautious) and you're telling me that if a guy showed you he was carrying a gun on a date with you, you wouldn't totally freak and run a mile? :laugh:

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This thread is amazing.

 

And has completely cheered up my crappy morning!!

 

..A gun..on a date. Wow.

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I think it's the fact of how scary and nuts the world is coming esp in this age with burglars, date rapes, abusive bfs that go crazy one day, getting lured into a trap, maniacs, etc. Too many bad news every day.

 

Pity the poor unarmed women in other countries.

Actually I thought crime in the US was on the decline compared to 70/80s. Are date rapes going up & up each year?

I guess you don't need a big tough guy for a bf to feel protected since your packing, or do you, so your future kids will be doubly safe. Though wouldn't dating that sort of guy be riskier. Tricky!

 

How about you date from your social circle or on recommendation by friends only (vetted) or date cops.

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