Woohoo Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 Met a couple of girls out and about. One was attractive. One was definitely not. Well the less attractive girl kept trying to isolate me etc. When I fell apart a few years ago I gained a LOT of weight, which I have now lost and carved a seriously good body, still I felt really sorry for her as I've known the sting of being undesirable, especially next to her friend I could imagine..well, she seemed cool, isolated me etc. and we got it on. Leave my phone out for a couple hours and BAM!, flood of texts, trying to make me guilty. Needy as hell. I friendzone her hard, she then starts talking about how she could love me, and how I'm way cooler, and she is not pretty enough for me etc. etc. Guilt cards everywhere. Whew, rough one. That I was giving her sympathy sex (true) etc. UGH!! I vaguely have two stalkers I just got rid of and may have just landed a new one. NEVER sleep with a needy person because you felt sorry for them. Could have been friends, made it clear, I made the one time nature of our sex clear from the BEGINNING, still, sex is a powerful thing, needy people simply can't handle it. Sticking to fellow wild and crazy people from here on out. Trappings of success I suppose. The more you know! (just venting, and yes, I am an a-hole/jerk/player/whatever) 1
Emilia Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 It is the biggest insult as well. A one night stand isn't likely to make a needy person feel good about themselves so it's not like you were actually helping her. 2
Maleficent Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Met a couple of girls out and about. One was attractive. One was definitely not. Well the less attractive girl kept trying to isolate me etc. When I fell apart a few years ago I gained a LOT of weight, which I have now lost and carved a seriously good body, still I felt really sorry for her as I've known the sting of being undesirable, especially next to her friend I could imagine..well, she seemed cool, isolated me etc. and we got it on. Leave my phone out for a couple hours and BAM!, flood of texts, trying to make me guilty. Needy as hell. I friendzone her hard, she then starts talking about how she could love me, and how I'm way cooler, and she is not pretty enough for me etc. etc. Guilt cards everywhere. Whew, rough one. That I was giving her sympathy sex (true) etc. UGH!! I vaguely have two stalkers I just got rid of and may have just landed a new one. NEVER sleep with a needy person because you felt sorry for them. Could have been friends, made it clear, I made the one time nature of our sex clear from the BEGINNING, still, sex is a powerful thing, needy people simply can't handle it. Sticking to fellow wild and crazy people from here on out. Trappings of success I suppose. The more you know! (just venting, and yes, I am an a-hole/jerk/player/whatever) Hmmm. I would like to hear her side of the story...
Phantom888 Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Actually, you're the one who got played, here. Ya man. She is a total player who wanted to get a hot dude. With her looks, she would have to settle for some chump. You fell for it! You gave her free sex!! She just wanted to make sure you would not fall for her, as some guys do, so she did the reverse psychology on you! Now you are totally avoiding her, and she got free cock from you! You got played! 2
Author Woohoo Posted May 31, 2013 Author Posted May 31, 2013 She has actually offered to have sex, turned that down and she just got madder. I've cut her out EVERYWHERE. Blocked her texts. A couple texts today, check the log folder occassionally. She implied suicide several times (I've know her for 3 days!) and that it was my fault, that I was the stressor that sent her over the edge. She sent that after I told her I blocked her, from a NEW NUMBER. Apparently she had a death in her family (parent) a couple of days before so it seems like she is trying to cling to someone. Lucky me. During all this I contacted her friend I had met, tried to make sure someone kept an eye on her. She said this is WAY outside her normal behavior. Apparently I'm "very honest" according to her friend and that she has trouble dealing with it/hearing it. Her story of me changes by the hour. Today's texts included the fact that I had no relation to her problem and it wasn't me. I've cut her off and have to stick to it now.
Author Woohoo Posted May 31, 2013 Author Posted May 31, 2013 Ya man. She is a total player who wanted to get a hot dude. With her looks, she would have to settle for some chump. You fell for it! You gave her free sex!! She just wanted to make sure you would not fall for her, as some guys do, so she did the reverse psychology on you! Now you are totally avoiding her, and she got free cock from you! You got played! Interesting theory. While I disagree, if she pulled this whole thing off like that I would high five her for taking the game to a whole new level. Dayumm. 1
Treasa Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 You got played. You gave up easy sex to someone you weren't attracted to but who was attracted to you, and she got an emotional tampon, while you now have hassle. 4
Phoebe Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 Met a couple of girls out and about. One was attractive. One was definitely not. Well the less attractive girl kept trying to isolate me etc. When I fell apart a few years ago I gained a LOT of weight, which I have now lost and carved a seriously good body, still I felt really sorry for her as I've known the sting of being undesirable, especially next to her friend I could imagine..well, she seemed cool, isolated me etc. and we got it on. Leave my phone out for a couple hours and BAM!, flood of texts, trying to make me guilty. Needy as hell. I friendzone her hard, she then starts talking about how she could love me, and how I'm way cooler, and she is not pretty enough for me etc. etc. Guilt cards everywhere. Whew, rough one. That I was giving her sympathy sex (true) etc. UGH!! I vaguely have two stalkers I just got rid of and may have just landed a new one. NEVER sleep with a needy person because you felt sorry for them. Could have been friends, made it clear, I made the one time nature of our sex clear from the BEGINNING, still, sex is a powerful thing, needy people simply can't handle it. Sticking to fellow wild and crazy people from here on out. Trappings of success I suppose. The more you know! (just venting, and yes, I am an a-hole/jerk/player/whatever) If you're that successful then why didn't you have sex with the attractive girl? Seems to me that you keep sleeping with girls that have low self-esteem or other emotional issues as you keep gaining all these stalkers. These kind of girls don't take kindly to the old hump and dump. Do this girl a favour and go NC (for example don't text her from a new number just to let her know that she's blocked). She's just lost one of her parents and is obviously not in the most stable frame of mind. 1
Author Woohoo Posted May 31, 2013 Author Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) If you're that successful then why didn't you have sex with the attractive girl? Seems to me that you keep sleeping with girls that have low self-esteem or other emotional issues as you keep gaining all these stalkers. These kind of girls don't take kindly to the old hump and dump. Do this girl a favour and go NC (for example don't text her from a new number just to let her know that she's blocked). She's just lost one of her parents and is obviously not in the most stable frame of mind. On the phone thing, I blocked her EVERYWHERE and informed her I was doing that. I have NO contact now, she contacted ME from a different number, just check my logs once a day to see blocked texts to make sure I don't miss anything. So yes, I am taking your advice their. The "physically attractive" girl was married, but I bet was down for it anyway. I've had a couple of close calls in those situations and have a strict NO MARRIED women rule (unless she is FULLY separated/getting divorced). I am VERY successful with women. Which is a reason I feel seriously duped. Which is why the NO SYMPATHY SEX rule is coming into play. The stalkers are generally not to the full pathological level of stalker, this girl ramped up so fast it was frightening. Inside 24 hours she has offered sex, threatened suicide, mentioned medications she is on, and told me it is all not related to me. So yes. Lesson learned. I suppose I got played as Treasa put it. Didn't really think of it like that but she is right (and Phantom888). I don't think it is so much conscious, but played all the same. Edited May 31, 2013 by Woohoo
Maleficent Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 What I'm wondering is why didn't you go fir the attractive one since, you know you've carved a pretty hot body by now...
Author Woohoo Posted June 1, 2013 Author Posted June 1, 2013 What I'm wondering is why didn't you go fir the attractive one since, you know you've carved a pretty hot body by now... The "physically attractive" girl was married, but I bet was down for it anyway. I've had a couple of close calls in those situations and have a strict NO MARRIED women rule (unless she is FULLY separated/getting divorced).
Author Woohoo Posted June 1, 2013 Author Posted June 1, 2013 you like the attention. admit it, you chose her! Haha. I friggin LOVE attention. Can't deny that 2
Author Woohoo Posted June 3, 2013 Author Posted June 3, 2013 Situation fully resolved. I guess I've been playing this game to long that I now have solutions/communication skills to diffuse these situation. I am now the best thing that has ever happened to her. Got her NOT freaking out at me cause of my responses she doesn't like (tested!). She knows/admits I will never be what she needs/wants. She has scheduled an appointment with a therapist. All kinds of interesting bits and pieces. *whew* Can relax now. 1
todreaminblue Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Met a couple of girls out and about. One was attractive. One was definitely not. Well the less attractive girl kept trying to isolate me etc. When I fell apart a few years ago I gained a LOT of weight, which I have now lost and carved a seriously good body, still I felt really sorry for her as I've known the sting of being undesirable, especially next to her friend I could imagine..well, she seemed cool, isolated me etc. and we got it on. Leave my phone out for a couple hours and BAM!, flood of texts, trying to make me guilty. Needy as hell. I friendzone her hard, she then starts talking about how she could love me, and how I'm way cooler, and she is not pretty enough for me etc. etc. Guilt cards everywhere. Whew, rough one. That I was giving her sympathy sex (true) etc. UGH!! I vaguely have two stalkers I just got rid of and may have just landed a new one. NEVER sleep with a needy person because you felt sorry for them. Could have been friends, made it clear, I made the one time nature of our sex clear from the BEGINNING, still, sex is a powerful thing, needy people simply can't handle it. Sticking to fellow wild and crazy people from here on out. Trappings of success I suppose. The more you know! (just venting, and yes, I am an a-hole/jerk/player/whatever) I have given sympathy sex.......USED TO BE that warm body for a person in need.......its called hooking.........i just got paid for it........and it did nothing for me, damaged me actually.......and it didnt help the guys i was with obtain any self esteem or happiness...maybe physical pleasure...and yes i got stalkers it is to be expected...... you have to take responsibility for your actions and face the consequences of yoru own actions.....if a person is needy.....you took advantage of that need for your own personal pleasure....and then complain when they attach......does that seem right to you?... or is is her behavior simply a reaction to your actions????....do you secretly like the fact that you can reject.that you are in a place of control.....does that pleasure you???..is that why you went for the less pretty girl and didnt go for the one you were truly attracted to?...deb 3
Author Woohoo Posted June 4, 2013 Author Posted June 4, 2013 I have given sympathy sex.......USED TO BE that warm body for a person in need.......its called hooking.........i just got paid for it........and it did nothing for me, damaged me actually.......and it didnt help the guys i was with obtain any self esteem or happiness...maybe physical pleasure...and yes i got stalkers it is to be expected...... you have to take responsibility for your actions and face the consequences of yoru own actions.....if a person is needy.....you took advantage of that need for your own personal pleasure....and then complain when they attach......does that seem right to you?... or is is her behavior simply a reaction to your actions????....do you secretly like the fact that you can reject.that you are in a place of control.....does that pleasure you???..is that why you went for the less pretty girl and didnt go for the one you were truly attracted to?...deb Apparently I also enjoyed learning how to read which is a sorely lacking ability on this forum.
Author Woohoo Posted June 4, 2013 Author Posted June 4, 2013 I have given sympathy sex.......USED TO BE that warm body for a person in need.......its called hooking.........i just got paid for it........and it did nothing for me, damaged me actually.......and it didnt help the guys i was with obtain any self esteem or happiness...maybe physical pleasure...and yes i got stalkers it is to be expected...... you have to take responsibility for your actions and face the consequences of yoru own actions.....if a person is needy.....you took advantage of that need for your own personal pleasure....and then complain when they attach......does that seem right to you?... or is is her behavior simply a reaction to your actions????....do you secretly like the fact that you can reject.that you are in a place of control.....does that pleasure you???..is that why you went for the less pretty girl and didnt go for the one you were truly attracted to?...deb Going to give you the run down real quick. This has been explained in 3! posts already. Attractive Girl : MARRIED. I have my rules. No married women period. A little more info. Unattractive girl : Lives an hour and half a way. Very desperate. Figured one time thing, she lives no where near me so no biggie. Turned super clingy despite the one time nature of it all being made obvious FROM THE BEGINNING. Texted multiple times in a simple 30 minute span I didn't have my phone. Threatened suicide multiple times etc. Not bad for someone I've known for only a couple of hours. Maybe the death of a parent had something to do with it? Which I did NOT KNOW ABOUT. YOU : Do you secretly like the fact that you can reject? Me : NO! I OPENLY LIKE THE FACT THAT I CAN REJECT!! Duh. You : Does that pleasure you? Me : Yes! Though I do not do so maliciously or without tact I FRIGGIN LOVE having options and I will never pretend otherwise. This in fact reinforces my attitude VERY heavily of kick low quality women to the curb. If I known all the crap that would have gone with sleeping with her, a clear ONS from out of town, I would have called up a booty call. I did learn a lesson, NO LOW QUALITY, even if I'm bored. Kick it to the curb.
todreaminblue Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Apparently I also enjoyed learning how to read which is a sorely lacking ability on this forum. is it sorely lacking i hadnt noticed......am i supposed to have noticed..sarcasm seems to be your point here.....have i noticed that correctly.......is that what you are saying that i didnt read your opening post carefully enough......ok......so the proper etiquette now would be for me to say sorry.....so i apologize...WOO HOOO...for not reading your opening post correctly.......now i move on to the post you have written to me below......moseying on now give me a sec....deb
todreaminblue Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 Going to give you the run down real quick. This has been explained in 3! posts already. Attractive Girl : MARRIED. I have my rules. No married women period. A little more info. Unattractive girl : Lives an hour and half a way. Very desperate. Figured one time thing, she lives no where near me so no biggie. Turned super clingy despite the one time nature of it all being made obvious FROM THE BEGINNING. Texted multiple times in a simple 30 minute span I didn't have my phone. Threatened suicide multiple times etc. Not bad for someone I've known for only a couple of hours. Maybe the death of a parent had something to do with it? Which I did NOT KNOW ABOUT. YOU : Do you secretly like the fact that you can reject? Me : NO! I OPENLY LIKE THE FACT THAT I CAN REJECT!! Duh. You : Does that pleasure you? Me : Yes! Though I do not do so maliciously or without tact I FRIGGIN LOVE having options and I will never pretend otherwise. This in fact reinforces my attitude VERY heavily of kick low quality women to the curb. If I known all the crap that would have gone with sleeping with her, a clear ONS from out of town, I would have called up a booty call. I did learn a lesson, NO LOW QUALITY, even if I'm bored. Kick it to the curb. Ok cool....glad you are happy and can decipher exactly how you feel about the whole situation.......you didn't need anyones help did you?......to come to your decision......you must feel masterful......now....as far as writing duh goes......i would consider that to be a show of how you dont need help at all, you like homer simpson are an extremely logical and thoughtful person, with compassion leaking out the top of your dome .......you really didnt need help.......someone who writes duh has it all figured out....kudos.....best wishes..hugs..good luck....deb
Author Woohoo Posted June 4, 2013 Author Posted June 4, 2013 Ok cool....glad you are happy and can decipher exactly how you feel about the whole situation.......you didn't need anyones help did you?......to come to your decision......you must feel masterful......now....as far as writing duh goes......i would consider that to be a show of how you dont need help at all, you like homer simpson are an extremely logical and thoughtful person, with compassion leaking out the top of your dome .......you really didnt need help.......someone who writes duh has it all figured out....kudos.....best wishes..hugs..good luck....deb You crossed the line. Everything seemed so reasonable. Sure, I lay on sarcasm a little thick sometimes but seriously? Insulting Homer Simpson! Come on! He brings nothing but joy! If Home wasn't an idiot no one would like him. P.S. : I have it very well figured out now, thank you
todreaminblue Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 You crossed the line. Everything seemed so reasonable. Sure, I lay on sarcasm a little thick sometimes but seriously? Insulting Homer Simpson! Come on! He brings nothing but joy! If Home wasn't an idiot no one would like him. P.S. : I have it very well figured out now, thank you lol smilin.....thanks for taking it with the humor that was intended......deb
Ninjainpajamas Posted June 4, 2013 Posted June 4, 2013 From my perspective this had nothing much to do with you at all, you can't sweep under the rug the loss of a parent. I think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit and taking this as an ego stroke, when psychologically/emotionally, I think she was just trying to distract herself and was expressing herself in a self-destructive way, not knowing how to cope with with her situation and being in an extremely emotionally vulnerable situation...acting out in a way she may have not otherwise. I don't know how you can just chalk this up to "sympathy sex", the poor girl would have probably cling to just about anyone in this situation that was there to give her some attention. Then you back off and pound your chest to how into you she is and how she is obsessed and this is such a lesson as to why you shouldn't have sex with such unattractive and desperate women. One because you like the attention and two because you think you are awesome enough to be the giver now instead of the beggar. Look, if you are truly experienced or have the benefit of attracting desirable women then you would merely understand that women are women and this can happen with anyone, in fact the most insecure and clingy women can be the most desirable and attractive, and you should already be aware of that. So being "surprised" that this fugly got swept off her feet supposedly because you are so hot is a bit of a douche move if you ask me, sure some women feel that way about certain men, but look at the overall state of women and their self-esteem...it's not exactly "spectacular" so it's really not that big of a flag to wave, there are millions upon millions of men who can do the exact same thing as you any day of the week, if not 10x "better" - relatively speaking. So have some pride, and sympathy...I know this is you showboating and a facade, I know deep down you likely feel bad for this girl but you're probably too afraid to get on her level because of your own insecurity with being weak and vulnerable and having to settle for crumbs, I'm sure it makes you feel good to be in a position of "power", but power...however miniscule, comes with responsibility and you should expect more from yourself...you shouldn't have treated her or made her sound like some needy rat, when the girl just lost her damn parent, you have no idea what she's dealing with or what she is going through, and neither do I...but I can imagine what she may be dealing with alone. 6
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