Mrlonelyone Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I know the title is a generalization and some men view some women as being just for fooling around etc. I ask because that's what it feels like to me. Like some males are viewed as good for a quick fool around and others are viewed as good for relationships. There are the scientific studies which address this, but I want to hear the experiences of LS's women. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I ask because that's what it feels like to me. Like some males are viewed as good for a quick ego stroke and others are viewed as good for relationships. Fixed it for you. There are the scientific studies which address this, but I want to hear the experiences of LS's women. Scientific studies that show... what, exactly? That women can view different men as serving different purposes in their life? NEWS At 9! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 Fixed it for you. Scientific studies that show... what, exactly? That women can view different men as serving different purposes in their life? NEWS At 9! No I don't mean an ego stroke. I mean that some men are good for down and dirty nasty sex and nothing more. Like you're garbage to them when in polite company or after they have had time to think it over afterwards. Let me assure you after a certain amount of time doing that it really isn't fun anymore. No I mean studies that show.. http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/downloads/Haselton_Miller_2006_Creative_intelligence_and_fertility.pdf and PLOS ONE: Ovulatory Shifts in Women?s Attractions to Primary Partners and Other Men: Further Evidence of the Importance of Primary Partner Sexual Attractiveness Previous research has documented shifts in women’s attractions to their romantic partner and to men other than their partner across the ovulation cycle, contingent on the degree to which her partner displays hypothesized indicators of high-fitness genes.... I am more interested in what women think as they are making decisions. Link to post Share on other sites
Eggplant Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 No. The idea of casual sex is depressing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hppr Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 As a guy I can tell you that it's true. A good looking/funny guy (who doesn't have a lot going for him financially speaking) will often fall into this category. IE, he's fun to be with, she likes to have sex with him, but she's not going to marry him because he doesn't make enough money to keep her comfortable. I found that women put me in that category a lot when I was younger because I was a smartass/funny guy but I was perpetually broke. So I'd have flings with the types of women I'd want to date but they wouldn't want to date me. And the types of women I ended up 'dating'....big mistake on my part lol... Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 The sites you quoted refer to "primary partners" and fertility, not women looking to men JUST for a romp. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 The sites you quoted refer to "primary partners" and fertility, not women looking to men JUST for a romp. Primary partners (ie. BF's husbands) Implies that these women would consider secondary partners. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Primary partners (ie. BF's husbands) Implies that these women would consider secondary partners. I think that's a stretch. Did you bother to read the links you posted? Or just the titles? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 I think that's a stretch. Did you bother to read the links you posted? Or just the titles? I read the links. The point of those studies is that women, when carefully questioned, will pick one kind of man for a primary mate and another kind as a short term secondary. They talk of "good dad" vs "good genes" and such. Women of high mate value, or just high self esteem, will pick men who have both of those things going on. Women of lower mate value, make a trade off. All of this happens unconciously. I really didn't want to discuss the research. I was just asking women here what they think. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I read the links. The point of those studies is that women, when carefully questioned, will pick one kind of man for a primary mate and another kind as a short term secondary. They talk of "good dad" vs "good genes" and such. Women of high mate value, or just high self esteem, will pick men who have both of those things going on. Women of lower mate value, make a trade off. Neither of the articles says that they view some men "just for a romp." Rather, they discuss what women look for when MATING (reproducing). Thus, if a woman is not looking to reproduce, and just to have sex, neither of your articles apply. Link to post Share on other sites
Eggplant Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Neither of the articles says that they view some men "just for a romp." Rather, they discuss what women look for when MATING (reproducing). Thus, if a woman is not looking to reproduce, and just to have sex, neither of your articles apply. The conscious part of the brain is only one of the players involved. The conscious brain may be looking just to have sex, while the subconscious part looking to reproduce. Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I read the links. The point of those studies is that women, when carefully questioned, will pick one kind of man for a primary mate and another kind as a short term secondary. They talk of "good dad" vs "good genes" and such. Women of high mate value, or just high self esteem, will pick men who have both of those things going on. Women of lower mate value, make a trade off. All of this happens unconciously. I really didn't want to discuss the research. I was just asking women here what they think. Kind of like what they talk about in books like Sperm Wars or the Red Queen Link to post Share on other sites
xorro Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 I guess so.. but I'm unlikely to actually fool around with someone who I can't take seriously. I'd probably have to be rebounding and pretty drunk or something.. Perhaps a gorgeous but self-absorbed man? Someone who you feel some sexual attraction to but know you would dislike/wouldn't understand you if you delved deeper. I've never had a one-night stand, but if I did, that's probably the type i'd go for. Someone I wouldn't feel badly about using because they wouldn't like me and I wouldn't like them. Sounds a bit sad, but there are men who really just find picking up girls an ego boost, and don't want to exchange numbers or conversation. It would be a one-off, not a repeat thing. I definitely wouldn't do that with a nice guy, or a someone I've actually formed a connection with. I think it's super shallow and sad that there are women who will string along a nice guy in this way, but not actually date him because he doesn't earn enough. In theory, the beauty of the one-night-stand is that no one gets hurt because it doesn't happen again, thus preventing any attachment from taking place. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Mrlonelyone Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 I guess so.. but I'm unlikely to actually fool around with someone who I can't take seriously. I'd probably have to be rebounding and pretty drunk or something.. Perhaps a gorgeous but self-absorbed man? Someone who you feel some sexual attraction to but know you would dislike/wouldn't understand you if you delved deeper. I've never had a one-night stand, but if I did, that's probably the type i'd go for. Someone I wouldn't feel badly about using because they wouldn't like me and I wouldn't like them. Sounds a bit sad, but there are men who really just find picking up girls an ego boost, and don't want to exchange numbers or conversation. It would be a one-off, not a repeat thing. I definitely wouldn't do that with a nice guy, or a someone I've actually formed a connection with. I think it's super shallow and sad that there are women who will string along a nice guy in this way, but not actually date him because he doesn't earn enough. In theory, the beauty of the one-night-stand is that no one gets hurt because it doesn't happen again, thus preventing any attachment from taking place. Oh no. The guys that this happens too would not be called "nice" by any means. The gents who have this problem on here have screwed other mens wives, and girlfriends. Not really nice. Yet the same men can't seem to get wives and girlfriends that they want. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperGeek Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 (edited) You don't need a scientific study to know females like to have 'boy toys'. They just won't likely admit to it unless you give them some sodium thiopental (truth serum). Let's add up the facts? Women have unlimited men flowing out the faucet wanting sex with them daily for most of their lives. It is not a question of IF they will get laid, but WHEN they will get laid AND how often they want it. How often is up to each specific female and their own morals/values. If a woman likes having causal sex, then they can get unlimited amounts of it if they want it and usually it's free. The internet dating sites have turned dating for females into an online amazon.com for ordering the most attractive males ala cart any time they want, and there is not even a shipping cost or tax. Each ordered male will even pay for drinks/dinner usually. An average female could (if they were really active on multiple dating profiles) date a different guy every night and literally not have to spend a dime. A lot of females in NYC and Sydney do this (I've seen it). Not to mention, all the in-person offers they get at stores, work, and out on the town. So yeah, females have guys all over them all the time ( the amount of guys for each girl obviously varies but in general what I'm saying holds true ). Does that answer your question? I know the title is a generalization and some men view some women as being just for fooling around etc. I ask because that's what it feels like to me. Like some males are viewed as good for a quick fool around and others are viewed as good for relationships. There are the scientific studies which address this, but I want to hear the experiences of LS's women. Edited May 25, 2013 by SuperGeek Link to post Share on other sites
LSTom Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 As a guy I can tell you that it's true. A good looking/funny guy (who doesn't have a lot going for him financially speaking) will often fall into this category. IE, he's fun to be with, she likes to have sex with him, but she's not going to marry him because he doesn't make enough money to keep her comfortable. I found that women put me in that category a lot when I was younger because I was a smartass/funny guy but I was perpetually broke. So I'd have flings with the types of women I'd want to date but they wouldn't want to date me. And the types of women I ended up 'dating'....big mistake on my part lol... Perhaps, but what would make those women think guys with money would want them? Link to post Share on other sites
camillalev Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I've definitely viewed some men as being nothing but good fun, while others are relationship material. Other women do as well. Why is this news? Link to post Share on other sites
Tom1981 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Makes one wonder, if it's really better to be considered a relationship material and not "good fun". Link to post Share on other sites
camillalev Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Makes one wonder, if it's really better to be considered a relationship material and not "good fun". Really depends on your feelings! Some guys are ok with it, others have gotten quite upset, wondering why we weren't going to become official. Link to post Share on other sites
Revolver Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 They do and that's why I hate the hypocrisy. When a woman has a guy she just bangs its ok, but if a man does it he's a "user" who only sees women for sex 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ShyOne82 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I know the title is a generalization and some men view some women as being just for fooling around etc. I ask because that's what it feels like to me. Like some males are viewed as good for a quick fool around and others are viewed as good for relationships. There are the scientific studies which address this, but I want to hear the experiences of LS's women. Well..my opinion when a guy is viewed as a quick fool around, obviously the woman doesnt see that he has much of anything to offer her other than sex. Men and women know what they want and when theyre not all that interested on a deeper level, its easier to fool around and move on to the next until a good one comes along. Link to post Share on other sites
samsungxoxo Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) They do and that's why I hate the hypocrisy. When a woman has a guy she just bangs its ok, but if a man does it he's a "user" who only sees women for sexThere is also the hypocrisy of when a man has casual sex with women he doesn't want to date he's just a player and enjoying his youth until he eventually settles down but if a woman does the same thing, she's a slut that doesn't ever deserves to be in a relationship because of the old saying ''You can't turn a slut into a housewife''. Well what about the guy that fooled around? What about ''You can't turn a playa/manwhore into husband material''? Edited July 14, 2013 by samsungxoxo Link to post Share on other sites
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