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Heck, if I wanted to go back to welding pipelines at 54, I could be rolling in it. That's how lucrative it is right now. Up to you. Only live once.

 

Aw hell you could still do it car. I'm you're age and I still climb wind turbines every day.

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Aw hell you could still do it car. I'm you're age and I still climb wind turbines every day.

Nah, can't take the humidity. There's a lot of pipeline work right now on the Gulf Coast with the new refineries and crackers coming online. Now, climbing up into the breeze in Tehachapi or Altamont, that I could do. One key aspect, relevant to 'how successful', is locating to a demographic where the resident ladies perceive one's skillset and prospects to be 'successful'. I'll do better in a more gritty, basic 'stuff of life' demographic, especially where there are actual live single women. The perception of 'success' can turn upon the gender ratios in the demographic. Where there's a surplus of men, women can be more selective and 'picky' and, trust me, they are, whether one is single or married to them. That's how it works, so far anyway.

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Now, climbing up into the breeze in Tehachapi or Altamont, that I could do.

 

Ha. Funny you should mention Tehachapi. We are headed there next week. That town has the world's best outdoor market every thur. Still though, pipe welding is a skill few guys have. It looks kinda fun too. We do some structural welding in the wind business, but I consider pipe welders the king of trades.

 

One key aspect, relevant to 'how successful', is locating to a demographic where the resident ladies perceive one's skillset and prospects to be 'successful'.

 

True. Since we're on the road almost the time I admit it's hard to establish that. We travel to many of the farms in the U.S.

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I'm probably in 0.1% of men in mid 20s earning six figures and it has never helped me a bit

 

1) Not sure the % is that low. Something like 20% of the people I know earn that much. I'm mid 20s. I'm sure that doesn't mean that the real % is 20 (it's definitely a biased social group), but I doubt it's 0.1%. Also, a six figure income disappears pretty quickly after tax and exorbitant student loans.

 

2) Your story is excellent proof that women don't all disregard personality for riches. It's a good thing.

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only 7% of people in the entire country earn six figures and the majority of that is folks in their 30s, 40s and 50s. I don't know anybody else in my age range who earns similar income to me outside of a couple co workers in my industry. The other 500 people I know in my age range are lucky to be earning 40K. I imagine the number is maybe somewhere around 0.1 to 1%

 

 

I only have a few K in student loans BTW so my financial situation is very strong. I'm very grateful for what I have

 

Huh, all doctors here hit at least $100k pre-tax after working for a few years.

 

But yes, their student loans are ridiculous.

 

 

What's wrong with my personality? :o

 

Refer to your other threads. :o

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Being a doctor is a bad deal these days.

 

Crazy loans, A LOT of years. If you do the bare minimum (11 years), you'll get out making about $150k with about twice that in student loan debt.

 

The only people that become doctors these days are:

 

1) Those that genuinely want to help people (which they won't get to do because the health care system in this country is so effed).

2) Social climbers.

 

I'm in health care, btw. Could you tell? :p

 

Hahah, definitely agree with this. Would never encourage anyone to do it for the money. Several other career paths get more for less investment. Less hours, too. Although fortunately here people can graduate from med school at 24, unlike the USA.

 

Of course, but how many people are doctors? average national income is 40K and the average person in the country is what? 36 years old?

 

 

 

Indeed...I am grateful to have very small student loans

 

 

 

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with my personality. All the people in my life say that I'm a great man

 

The fact that I can't get a halfway cute girl to like me doesn't mean that I'm a horrible human being...it just means I'm a miserable failure in dating

 

Dating success doesn't indicate anything either way. I knew a guy who has dated plenty of women who was a big time cheater who worked as a drug dealer/hitman for one of the Chicago gangs

 

When I spoke about your personality, I was not referring to girls not liking you.

 

I agree that dating success is not always a great indicator of personality.

 

My point was that I think you are overestimating the rarity of 6-figure earners.

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Statistically, 6 figure earners are in the Top 10% (I believe the Top 10% begins at around $82k).

 

And damn, med school is a good deal for you then. Where do you live?

 

Mm, not really a good deal, I don't think. Tax here is exorbitant, again. So yes, 100k is technically the new 50k here... cause you really have 60k left after tax. It also takes much longer to get into a residency program, even though you are paid fairly well before that.

 

As for where, you'll have to figure that out. :p

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Not much. That's why many don't. :/

 

I think folks in business, etc, can get a lot of tax exemption through various loopholes. Not so for medical employees. But then again, we're quite new to this country so maybe we don't have the ins and outs figured out yet.

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I laugh at people on the internet who make it seem like 100K is the new 50K in this country or something

 

 

The national average income is about 40K. That means you have as many people earning below 40K as you do even above 40K. Top 20th percentile in our country is about 70-80K...100 puts you at the top 7 and 120 puts you in the top 5 believe

 

Average doesn't mean that at all. Better go back to school! :eek:

 

Anyways I thought this thread was about guys who are unwilling to learn how to get the girl. One thing I can guarantee is it has nothing to do with making money or whether living at home.

 

Spending less than $100 a week socializing/dating, I have more girls to date than I have time. I blew a whole $12 meeting a girl for lunch today (actually she paid because I got her $9 dinner last week). Then tonight a neighbor brought her coworker over to meet me, got her phone number, there went another whopping $9 in wine.

 

Tomorrow is my big splurge where I'll drop $20-30 during a group dinner and walk away with how many numbers? Who knows, but last week it was a cute petite Russian girl who I'm thinking isn't interested in my miniscule bank account, but the dozen Russian words I sputtered incomprehensibly.

 

Sunday I'm organizing a potluck and BYOB, can you get cheaper than that? Now the whole week I get to tell random women to show up, like whoever the cute waitress is tomorrow night...And even if they don't come, it's a good excuse to get their number and ask them out later.

 

Anything making sense yet?

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It seems like he was already making the argument that women in our society like poor guys better than guys with money, which you just confirmed.

 

Women don't need guys with money anymore because they make their own money. So they just want a guy that makes them feel good.

 

Who makes them feel good? Guys that are carefree with no responsibilities and little worries (ie: no job or a job that isn't demanding).

 

Seems simple to me.

 

Age (or more specifically, stage of life) and goals matter here.

 

I have no doubt that the unemployed guy can get 'dates' with young women who are in the stage of life in which they just want to have fun - ie college or before. Assuming he is able to offer what they want - usually a good time with a hot guy who knows how to push their buttons.

 

But unless your goal in life is to constantly date new people (and those people being college girls, even when you are 30 or 40 or 50)... if you want a relationship, having zero career direction is likely to be a disadvantage. The few guys I know who can't keep a job or pass a class, can't keep a woman around for long either. The good-looking ones among them do get dates, but usually the women flake on them after a while. Not sure why exactly that is, but probably because most women do desire stability in a R - doesn't have to be a guy with a six-figure income, but he should at least have a stable job or full-time studentship, and be doing reasonably well in it.

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Of course it does. However I don't like the argument of "well, I know many women who date men who aren't successful, or don't have a job etc". I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but that's mostly with women who don't have better options/prospects.

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I had to laugh at myself yesterday. Being an under the radar kind of guy, the irony struck me...

 

I collapsed a bunch of boxes down and left them on the front porch for a new tenant who's moving in this weekend. She and her daughter are moving from an apartment so I figured I'd help them out with the box thing, since I have a ton of them. Good for the environment too.

 

The funny part is that this 40-something dental hygienist earns nearly 6K per month (yep, confirmed it with her employer) and her similar age non-cohabiting boyfriend works part time at Home Depot and is going to school. Typical going through divorce with psycho exW stuff.

 

As I set the boxes out on the porch I thought 'what am I doing?' :D Time to get out of here.

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:confused: Really? When I went to target a few months ago they told me they don't accept in person applications. The grocery store across the street said the same thing.

 

I didn't go to the mall or anything (perhaps I should) but I figured most places didn't bother with in person applications anymore. I guess I was wrong in that...

 

Where I live, retail jobs do require resumes...sometimes both a resume and an application.

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