fortyninethousand322 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Definitely not every time we go out. I didn't become financially successful by blowing money left and right. But a nice dinner out once (or sometimes twice) a week is fairly normal for me. Other nights we can cook in, grill in, or go somewhere cheaper. It's actually pretty easy to spend $100 on dinner in Chicago without even trying! What do you eat? Where do you eat? Two steak dinners at Outback or a similar place at most costs you $25 a piece. Add in tip and a soft drink (unless you drink water like I do) that's about $70 give or take. Where's the extra 30 coming from? Dessert?
ltjg45 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I would lose my appetite if I ever go out and I see a bill totaling $100+ just on one dinner night. I just don't have the taste for food anymore that would justify those kinds of prices. If she wants to eat out at an expensive restaurant, be my guest but I rather just be there with a Burger King sandwich or two off the dollar menu and some water while I will be there to pay the bill.
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I would lose my appetite if I ever go out and I see a bill totaling $100+ just on one dinner night. I just don't have the taste for food anymore that would justify those kinds of prices. If she wants to eat out at an expensive restaurant, be my guest but I rather just be there with a Burger King sandwich or two off the dollar menu and some water while I will be there to pay the bill. If you could make a 2 lb bacon cheddar cheeseburger, I'd consider paying $50 for it. As long as you threw in a deliciously toasted bun. That's a dinner I'd spend $100 on (2 $50 burgers). Otherwise, no deal...
ltjg45 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 If you could make a 2 lb bacon cheddar cheeseburger, I'd consider paying $50 for it. As long as you threw in a deliciously toasted bun. That's a dinner I'd spend $100 on (2 $50 burgers). Otherwise, no deal... Oh, the massive calories that burger would have. I have seen burgers that has 800+ calories. I'm scared to think how many calories that one would have. I really don't want to gain any more weight.
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Oh, the massive calories that burger would have. I have seen burgers that has 800+ calories. I'm scared to think how many calories that one would have. I really don't want to gain any more weight. It's just one burger one day. Not like you'd eat it every single day. The worst part of that meal is the bun anyway...
ltjg45 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 It's just one burger one day. Not like you'd eat it every single day. The worst part of that meal is the bun anyway... True but that amount of calories still scare me. While I do a lot of walking (enough to the point where I can ruin a pair of shoes like 3 months), I don't do much else as far as exercise is concerned.
soccerrprp Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Definitely not every time we go out. I didn't become financially successful by blowing money left and right. But a nice dinner out once (or sometimes twice) a week is fairly normal for me. Other nights we can cook in, grill in, or go somewhere cheaper. It's actually pretty easy to spend $100 on dinner in Chicago without even trying! Phew, that's okay then. I can do that....anywhoo, I'll continue dating the lovely women out here in the DFW area where there are plenty of restaurants available under $100:
BluEyeL Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Well, people who are entrepreneurs and are talented that way don't necessarily need degrees, but everyone else kinda does. Now it's up to the person what they do with that degree, and also it's important what kind of degree it is. Liberal arts vs. Engineering for example.
todreaminblue Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Women, how important is a man's career to you? I'm a female, and I personally hardly prioritize it. In fact, an extremely career-oriented man may not be a good fit for me, because he'd be away working too much, and not devoting time to his family. Plus I'm not materialistic. I'm happy living a modest life. The size of a boring house doesn't excite me. I do definitely value ambition and passion for learning as character traits. I don't mean to knock success - I appreciate it. It just doesn't come before so many other more important preferences. It's not what really matters or makes me happy. Am I different that way, or what do other women think? My perspective may also be affected by the fact that I have a good career, and I'm confident I'll always make ends meet. So maybe I just have the luxury of not worrying about it so much... If i had a choice between a madly career orientated man who was a go getteran don the rise..... and a man who worked manual labor but loved me with a passion and the job second....i know which one i would want to have and would happily be giving long massages at the end of the day....... and i dont need a certificate taped to his back to do that, just a man to be glad to be next to me and appreciate me.....more than his job..............deb 1
clia Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 What do you eat? Where do you eat? Two steak dinners at Outback or a similar place at most costs you $25 a piece. Add in tip and a soft drink (unless you drink water like I do) that's about $70 give or take. Where's the extra 30 coming from? Dessert? Not Outback. Basically any somewhat popular restaurant in the city. Look up the menu for places like Sunda, Japonais, Paris Club, Mercadito, or RPM, just to give you a few examples. If you get an appetizer, two main courses, share a dessert, and either get a bottle of wine or a drink apiece, plus tax and tip, you can easily spend $100, if not more.
BluEyeL Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Not Outback. Basically any somewhat popular restaurant in the city. Look up the menu for places like Sunda, Japonais, Paris Club, Mercadito, or RPM, just to give you a few examples. If you get an appetizer, two main courses, share a dessert, and either get a bottle of wine or a drink apiece, plus tax and tip, you can easily spend $100, if not more. Common, he's not gonna go to those kinds of restaurants that you are going to. You're not going to chains
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 Common, he's not gonna go to those kinds of restaurants that you are going to. You're not going to chains Well I used that as an example. I go to plenty of non-chain restaurants (plenty in DC which is the area where I live) and have never spent more than $25 on a meal. 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 That's a crock of sh*t. No one here said that a college degree will "automatically" land anyone a job. But if you think for one minute that some corporation looking for a mid-level manager, an engineer, an accountant or a Project Manager is going to choose some guy whose highest education was his senior year at Radcliffe High OVER the guy sporting the Bachelor's or Master's Degree, then you're clearly delusional. And I think your disparaging little comment about a college degree being 'a piece of paper' is disgustingly disrespectful to anyone on this board who busted their ass putting in the time, effort and expense of getting a degree in their chosen field - whether you're one of those people or not. I'm not offended at all. I feel like my degree is a waste and just a "piece of pa". I wish I never bothered getting it in the first place. Maybe if I wasn't stupid and could do well with math and science or engineering or something I'd feel differently. But, I'm not, so... 1
FitChick Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Look up the menu for places like Sunda, Japonais, Paris Club, Mercadito, or RPM, just to give you a few examples. If you get an appetizer, two main courses, share a dessert, and either get a bottle of wine or a drink apiece, plus tax and tip, you can easily spend $100, if not more. A waiter can make a lot of money in a place like that. Become a paralegal. I think it's a short course. Even a legal secretary can make good money. I know a married guy with a kid, who is an aspiring writer, working as a legal secretary. Work in the medical field. Some of those jobs pay fairly well after a short training period.
Geiss Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Okay then, die a virgin, or lonely and without love, all because you'd rather live safely at home in a room with your brother. No skin off my back! Just tryin' to help a dude out. Are you trying to help a dude out. Really? How so? You seem to be quite arrogant and think that your situation should apply for everyone's situation. Are you attractive? You must have been at some point to get a waitress job where you can clean up in tips and make a lot more money than a guy trying to work part time and go to school and pay rent and date. Assuming he can get a date. You think a dishwasher or cook will get as much as a waitress. Do you share tips with them. All you have to do is show some cleavage and let the tips flow in. 16 to 17 k a year part time is very good. Some people don't make that in a full time job. Just count your blessings because not everyone has them.
Els Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Well I used that as an example. I go to plenty of non-chain restaurants (plenty in DC which is the area where I live) and have never spent more than $25 on a meal. I think I've had this conversation with Clia before. Most of the time, dinners with the bf come up to $15/pp, tops. Because we don't order drinks or other extras most of the time. We do have several bottles of wine at home, so if we do want to drink, we'd rather do it at home. Much cheaper. I think there is something to be said for the $60-100/pp places for very special occasions, though. I know some folks find them cliched, but I really enjoy them.
Els Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 What about postmen? The sheer number of songs about postmen should suffice to answer this.
Geiss Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Financial success is probably number one on my list these days. I’m not a big subscriber to the viewpoint that all you need is love to be happy in life. Life is vastly easier when you aren’t worrying about how you are going to pay your bills. It’s one less stressor to any relationship. It’s also a lot more fun. Plus, I’m 38 years old and have had a very successful career that is only getting better. I want to travel and retire early. At this point in my life, I need a man who is in the same boat as me. For most (but of course, not all) people, financial success is tied to ambition and work ethic, and I’ve found I’m just not compatible with men that don’t have those qualities. It’s one thing to be 24 years old and trying to figure out what you are doing with your life, and your career path. When I was younger, financial success wasn’t quite so high on my list. It’s something else entirely to be 40 years old and making $20,000 a year as a retail clerk at Target or a bartender. By my age, I expect a guy to be able to carry his own weight, not flinch at a $100 dinner, have a nice house and a good retirement nest egg started. Of course, I don’t expect anything out of a man that I can’t offer in return. Well you know the saying, It's lonely at the top. Get used to it. How much does a man have to earn for the privilege to date someone as great as yourself? 6 figures? Got to have a house too? And you will provide this man with what? Do you honestly think a guy will be interested in someone with such high demands that may have that stuff. Or will he be interested in the cute waitress?
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 I think I've had this conversation with Clia before. Most of the time, dinners with the bf come up to $15/pp, tops. Because we don't order drinks or other extras most of the time. We do have several bottles of wine at home, so if we do want to drink, we'd rather do it at home. Much cheaper. I think there is something to be said for the $60-100/pp places for very special occasions, though. I know some folks find them cliched, but I really enjoy them. Absolutely. I could definitely see that. I just don't think an average night out should come to $100 just for dinner. But I think we agree on that. And, I might add, I don't think anyone my age is spending $100 on a meal unless they're a trust fund baby... 1
Els Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Absolutely. I could definitely see that. I just don't think an average night out should come to $100 just for dinner. But I think we agree on that. And, I might add, I don't think anyone my age is spending $100 on a meal unless they're a trust fund baby... We're your age, or very close to it. But yes, only very special occasions - birthdays and Vday. I'd be pretty horrified at the thought of $100 meals a couple times a week, too. If we were both in our 30s with all our student loans paid off, etc, then we might do it a bit more often - but probably still not every week.
skydiveaddict Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 I know Arabic (though not fluently) and I studied the Middle East/North Africa and South Asia. That's what I wanted to do, but I changed my mind a few months after I graduated. I don't believe in the "war on terror" anymore. It's been an effort trying to find myself since. But I do know what I object to and where I draw the line... All those skills and education and you can't find a decent job? Or get a date? Or move out of your parents basement? C'mon. You're only fooling yourself. You are just plain afraid of life.
fortyninethousand322 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 All those skills and education and you can't find a decent job? Or get a date? Or move out of your parents basement? C'mon. You're only fooling yourself. You are just plain afraid of life. 1. I only wish I was in the basement. At least then I'd have my own room. 2. All the jobs (that I know of) that cater to my skills are the "catch bad guys for teh fedz" variety. Like I said, don't want that. But, if you are aware of a decent job that I'd be good for given my skills that doesn't involve the above, feel free to let me know (or at least where to look). 3. I don't get dates because women on dating sites don't respond to me and in real life I'm too awkward around women I'm interested in and/or I creep women out. So, there you go... 1
skydiveaddict Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 1. I only wish I was in the basement. At least then I'd have my own room. 2. All the jobs (that I know of) that cater to my skills are the "catch bad guys for teh fedz" variety. Like I said, don't want that. But, if you are aware of a decent job that I'd be good for given my skills that doesn't involve the above, feel free to let me know (or at least where to look). 3. I don't get dates because women on dating sites don't respond to me and in real life I'm too awkward around women I'm interested in and/or I creep women out. So, there you go... Dude those are all just excuses. You seem like a man w/a lot of potential. But you are so afraid that you can't get out of your own way. If you want to succeed you must put your fears aside, get up off your ass and get on with it.
carhill Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 I know Arabic (though not fluently) and I studied the Middle East/North Africa and South Asia. That's what I wanted to do, but I changed my mind a few months after I graduated. I don't believe in the "war on terror" anymore. It's been an effort trying to find myself since. But I do know what I object to and where I draw the line... Success tip, since someone mentioned the currently booming oil business. It's booming so much that they're hiring from all over the world and guess where a lot of skilled labor is coming from? Yep, the middle East. Someone with knowledge of those cultures and a leg up on learning the languages could become quite successful. Heck, if I wanted to go back to welding pipelines at 54, I could be rolling in it. That's how lucrative it is right now. Up to you. Only live once. Women like a man with a plan. Mine got messed up and wife checked out. That's how life works. Good luck. 1
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