Imported Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Before, it'd be a total no show. But then I dated a girl for a while that was full sleeved on both arms and other tats. She wasn't all pierced up though, just earrings. Now, if a girl is all tatted up and otherwise attractive to me and I got to know her and like her personality, it's not a problem. Honestly, I just didn't think about it. With that girl, it was not that I learned to like her tats, I just got to know her and really liked her. When I looked at her, I wasn't seeing a girl with tats, I was seeing her. I am still not into girls that are all tatted up. I am not going out looking for them and will not approach them. I will find women that are not all tatted up instead. 3
kaylan Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Another subject I was just curious on so thought I'd make a thread. Obviously, piercings and tattoos are completely a personal preference, you either love or hate them... But! If you met someone who had a few piercings and tattoos and liked the person, do you think you could look beyond it? The reason I ask, one because I'm curious and secondly because I have a few piercings myself and have been turned down due to them before (No big deal) and friends of mine have also said they would NEVER date someone with piercings. Now, I'm not talking about people who are COVERED in tattoos and piercings, but perhaps people like me with 3/4 piercings and 1/2 tattoos. To give you an idea of the type of piercings I mean I've uploaded a photo of myself with my old piercing so you can see! Worth mentioning it is kind of old, yes I have a baby face, don't judge! ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting I now also have an eyebrow and tongue piercing, but since I am using a new computer I couldn't find a picture to upload and couldn't be bothered to take one! So just kind of imagine it I have tats and piercings myself, so I have a bit of bias. I have a lip and eyebrow ring, though I rarely wear them. And I have my ears stretched to 2 gauged. Its not too noticeable without jewelry in though, which is what I aimed for. Also, I have a chest tattoo, and a sleeve on my right arm that in progress. All this being said, I have take out my piercings and easily cover my tattoos for various occasions and atmospheres. I prefer a gal who can do the same. While I def dig piercings and tats on a girl, theres a time and place for different looks. I havent run into trouble with women in regards to my alternative look. And I gotta be honest....was never a fan of septum piercings on men lol. In my experience, girls like a tasteful lip ring or small ear stretches a lot more. guys seem to be more forgiving with septum rings on girls, but still dont dig them super lots. They are hard piercings for most people to pull off right.
kaylan Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 OP tats and piercings are so common place in many walks of life nowadays, that you shouldnt be concerned with this. Not in or around the mouth. I think it's really unhygenic. You have bracteria breeding there, food left over... not appealing. I'm ok with tatoos but quality over quantity definitely I guess kissing is unhygienic then in general then. Better stop doing that.
It's Just Me Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 I come from a generation where tattoos were only worn by criminals and greasy bikers. Today, tats are more mainstream, but... I've yet to see the CEO of a publicly-owned company sporting sleeve tats and piercings. I work in a very conservative corporate world where people do look askance at that sort of display. People judge every day, all the time. It's the way the world works, and it's a bit delusional to think otherwise. The man I'm dating has none, but if he decided to tattoo his kids' names on his arm, I wouldn't see an issue with it. Dragons, roses, weird crosses and crap all across his back? Different story. I considered getting a small, well-hidden and meaningful one recently - until I discovered that tattoo ink can create major problems if one needs an MRI. Turns out that some tattoo ink is ferrous, meaning that it will heat up when exposed to the magnetic force of an MRI. Uh, no thanks.
kaylan Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 ^Loads of CEOs, Congressmen, and even some Presidents have had tattoos. Its just that you cant see them under their suits. And piercings arent something you wear with suits either. But its no different from a woman dressing in a pant suit for work, but then having in earrings and a small nose stud on the weekends. All this being said, your comparison is incomplete. As I said, people for ALL walks of life have tats and piercings. To each his own. My daughter did this crap to her ears. <<=== I def dig it. Her stretches are too big for myself personally though. I stayed at a size that let me wear plugs and tunnels, but also didnt leave my earlobes looking big when I have to go work or look nice somewhere. Plus with my brown skin tone most people cant tell I even have piercing holes if they arent in.
pteromom Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 I have no issues with tattoos at all. It wouldn't even figure in whether I'd date someone or not unless it was an offensive or very stupid tattoo. As far as piercings, I am not a fan of piercings on men at all. I could look past a pierced ear (though I'd ask him how he felt about taking it out), but couldn't look past facial piercings or nipple piercings. Just doesn't do it for me. And HELL no to genital piercings. But I don't really care what people do. Not like I wouldn't be friends with someone with piercings... I just wouldn't date them.
Maleficent Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 I considered getting a small, well-hidden and meaningful one recently - until I discovered that tattoo ink can create major problems if one needs an MRI. Turns out that some tattoo ink is ferrous, meaning that it will heat up when exposed to the magnetic force of an MRI. Uh, no thanks. That's true of ink used for prison tattoos. But inks used in tattoos are not dangerous with MRIs
Woohoo Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Context is a huge issue. I am male, athletic build, long hair with two industrials (caged) on my left ear. With my hair pulled back, and build I could still pull a suit and tie gig. This is because the piercings are part of my look and work to accentuate me and the outfits I wear. On the other hand if it is a piercing that is done to scream look at me! "I have piercing!" then it is likely to come off as self-conscious not attractive. That is the main problem with septum piercings in particular. While the brow and ears and other parts of the nose can look good, the septum really only belongs to people with a LOT of piercings. Then it seems to make more sense, otherwise it comes off as attention seeking instead of as an accessory. Same applies to tattoos. As long as their is quality and it is done right, you can do all you want. Edited May 17, 2013 by Woohoo
pcplod Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Obviously this is NOT often the case but it does send some unfavourable vibes. Actually the person wearing the tattoos isn't giving out any vibes at all, either real or virtual. What is happening is that YOU are giving out negative vibes that are being reflected back into your conscious thoughts. That enables you to react instinctively in a negative way, permitting you to attribute all sorts of unformed and explicit bad characteristics to them even at the very same time that you rational mind is saying "This is just sheer bollocks". What you have typed in just a few simple paragraphs speaks more in spades about your personality than it does about the tattooed person. You are reactionary, not receptive. You are more unaccommodating than accommodating. You are conservative. You do not like change. You are apprehensive about the even mildly unusual without even understanding why. You are controlling because you fear not being in control. You worry far too much about what others think of you beyond the merely pragmatic. You will allow your impulse to control you even when your logic tells you it is wrong. And anxiety bugs you more than your actual life warrants. But, hey, you have as much right to that as the guy who wears facial tattoos. How do you feel about people with facial birthmarks? If the nicest, richest, funniest, most generous man made a pass at you but had a port wine mark that covered a substantial part of his face, how would you regard it? What about people with acne scars, freckles, moles, skin tags, benign cysts, milia?
pcplod Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Look. The entire premise of this thread was to ask people what they think about guys with tattoos and piercings. You cannot start or enter such a thread and then accuse people who have answered on topic, as being judgmental. Do you mean he can't accuse them of being judgemental when it is blatantly clear that is what they are being? I mean beyond, "personally they are not for me"?
pcplod Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Another subject I was just curious on so thought I'd make a thread. Obviously, piercings and tattoos are completely a personal preference, you either love or hate them... But! If you met someone who had a few piercings and tattoos and liked the person, do you think you could look beyond it? The reason I ask, one because I'm curious and secondly because I have a few piercings myself and have been turned down due to them before (No big deal) and friends of mine have also said they would NEVER date someone with piercings. Now, I'm not talking about people who are COVERED in tattoos and piercings, but perhaps people like me with 3/4 piercings and 1/2 tattoos. To give you an idea of the type of piercings I mean I've uploaded a photo of myself with my old piercing so you can see! Worth mentioning it is kind of old, yes I have a baby face, don't judge! ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting I now also have an eyebrow and tongue piercing, but since I am using a new computer I couldn't find a picture to upload and couldn't be bothered to take one! So just kind of imagine it Overall, I would decribe myself as culturally conservative, inhibited would be a more appropriate word. However, in more recent years, I have been much keener in being what I think is my authentic self and worry less what others may or may not think about me. I regard that as part of my character development/building, to push against my own safe, inhibiting boundaries. As it stands, I still have no tattoos whatsoever, although I have toyed with getting one somewhere on my torso where I could hide it at will so I could have my cake and eat it as far as inhibited, fearful potential employers are concerned. However, what holds me back is deciding what it would be, subject-wise, that would be truly meaningful to me. Also the artwork would have to be of the highest order and it would have to seem right contextually, although I haven't quite figured out what that actually means to me. It will probably be a case of I'll know it when I see it (probably on someone else). I used to be of a view that I liked uniformity and the natural state in the appearance of the body, but I am gradually moving away from that mind-set. However, I still have a thing about symmetry and balance and I think that is why I react adversely towards facial tattoos particularly but also facial piercings. Lurking away in the background, of course, is the whole instinct of association thing, ie it's association with an underclass of sorts, criminals specifically, etc, etc. That is something that I consciously try to reject, at least how I see others, if not myself. I have four classical male body piercings and love them both in what they say about me and in what they do. They were chosen for the additional option of being able to be hidden from view in the course of normal day-to-day public activities. However, I am now contemplating getting just a little understated ear piercing, a small titanium gold PVD BCR, maybe less than 1cm in diameter, the inside of the ring touching against the edge of the lobe or maybe a very small stud with an unusual or custom motif. I quite like the look of small stud nose piercings for women, Find small eyebrow piercings for men or women okay but somehow think they look isolated and lonely. Have no issues in tongue piercings in others but would not consider it for myself because the higher than normal infection rates and the potential issues over dental problems. For whatever reasons that I haven't figured out yet, I find bottom lip, corner of mouth and nose ring piercings as incongruous, like they are right in yer face, so-to-speak. However, I would never, ever ask someone else to remove them unless it was for strictly immediate health reasons, not even perceived ones. If you accept the person, you accept the whole person. To conspire to try to mould them in your own image is simply a criminal act as much as trying to change how they behave. It is controlling and manipulative.
Maleficent Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Actually the person wearing the tattoos isn't giving out any vibes at all, either real or virtual. What is happening is that YOU are giving out negative vibes that are being reflected back into your conscious thoughts. That enables you to react instinctively in a negative way, permitting you to attribute all sorts of unformed and explicit bad characteristics to them even at the very same time that you rational mind is saying "This is just sheer bollocks". What you have typed in just a few simple paragraphs speaks more in spades about your personality than it does about the tattooed person. You are reactionary, not receptive. You are more unaccommodating than accommodating. You are conservative. You do not like change. You are apprehensive about the even mildly unusual without even understanding why. You are controlling because you fear not being in control. You worry far too much about what others think of you beyond the merely pragmatic. You will allow your impulse to control you even when your logic tells you it is wrong. And anxiety bugs you more than your actual life warrants. But, hey, you have as much right to that as the guy who wears facial tattoos. How do you feel about people with facial birthmarks? If the nicest, richest, funniest, most generous man made a pass at you but had a port wine mark that covered a substantial part of his face, how would you regard it? What about people with acne scars, freckles, moles, skin tags, benign cysts, milia? This post made my day! thankyouthankyouthankyou!
c57dood Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 I personally think tattoos look terrible on anyone, no matter what or where it is. Of course, since I'm in the minority I'll be labeled judgmental or conservative, just like people who don't agree with homosexual marriage are simply labeled bigots. And those who have tattoos which are "meaningful", is it really that difficult to recall something important in your life without it being stamped permanently on your body? I'm already subjected to enough graffiti on decrepit buildings. Such is the decay of spoiled and neglected societies! 1
Author DanielStone Posted May 18, 2013 Author Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) like kind of harded, underworld(criminal), some also Gothic (satanic) mentality.like let me pain myself to show that i an bear that much pain I'm sorry... But that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life! Are you trying to tell me that I'm a criminal and like to hurt myself for fun? I get that you don't like them and fine thats your choice, doesn't bother me... But like we were talking about above, you're being seriously judgemental about people.. Just because someone has a tattoo or a piercing doesn't make them a criminal and it certainly doesn't put them in the 'satanic' group.. Yeah a lot of people get sad tattoos to remind themselves of what happened but it's all for the good... Are you going to start telling people the tattoo they got in memory of their dead mother is wrong and full of darkness? Edited May 18, 2013 by DanielStone
Els Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Do you mean he can't accuse them of being judgemental when it is blatantly clear that is what they are being? I mean beyond, "personally they are not for me"? Yes, because the OP explicitly asks for personal opinions on the topic. I'm not sure how 'to me, they give out unfavourable vibes' is so different from 'no, I wouldn't date someone with a tattoo' (which would be a direct answer to the very title of the thread). If someone does not wish to hear personal judgments, it would make sense to not ask for them. On the other hand, if the OP had made a thread about, "I love tattoos!", and Sunshine had come in with the same reply, then yes, it would have been judgmental. It's really like a woman posting a pic of herself with the question, "Do you think I look fat?". If someone replies, "Yes, to me you look fat", would they be 'judgmental'?
Author DanielStone Posted May 18, 2013 Author Posted May 18, 2013 Yes, because the OP explicitly asks for personal opinions on the topic. I'm not sure how 'to me, they give out unfavourable vibes' is so different from 'no, I wouldn't date someone with a tattoo' (which would be a direct answer to the very title of the thread). If someone does not wish to hear personal judgments, it would make sense to not ask for them. On the other hand, if the OP had made a thread about, "I love tattoos!", and Sunshine had come in with the same reply, then yes, it would have been judgmental. It's really like a woman posting a pic of herself with the question, "Do you think I look fat?". If someone replies, "Yes, to me you look fat", would they be 'judgmental'? Thats not how being judgemental works... "I wouldn't date someone with tattoos because I don't personally like them" - Not judgemental. "I wouldn't date someone with tattoos because he must be a criminal" OR "I wouldn't date someone with tattoos because they give off bad vibes" - That's being judgemental. "Yes, you look fat in this picture" - Not being judgemental, being fat is being fat, it's a fact, not an opinion... You can't be judgemental if its not an opinion.
Author DanielStone Posted May 18, 2013 Author Posted May 18, 2013 well i think if this is your point you should not open any topics on a forum. you asked something so you have to be able to receive the answers. if not dont ask. beside you just have problems reading it 2. i did not say all the people, i said that often there is a other reason other then "i like it or i think they are cool". that people put those things on their body. A lot just like you would not admit it. Even if it was clear to them. Like why did you put a piercing on your nose? Is it not cause you want to put a statement or fit in the group or other reasons then "its cool"???? And giving a opinion is not judgmental. otherwise you are one 2. for judging people that dont like piercings etc. I haven't judged anyone for not liking piercings or tattoos actually... All I have done is given examples and explained to them how "People with tattoos seem like criminals" isn't true at all... I never said having an opinion is being judgemental, what I mean was, having an opinion like people with tattoos and piercings give off bad vibes or fit into satanist stereotype or the criminal stereotype is being judgemental because you're labelling a person whereas I am not, just trying to show you that what you stated is not the case. Why did I get my septum pierced? No, not to seem cool at all... All the piercings I have gotten done, I did because I liked the way they looked on me.. I did it for personal taste rather than a statement..
jeni45667 Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Until the person develops feeling towards you, they're less likely to overlook physical things. I think tattoos are very cool. People pay too much attention to the physical things sometimes, which are not the most important things to focus, in the long run. It reminds me of what Voltaire said "give me 10 mins to talk away my ugly face and I'll bed the Queen of France." 1
SoleMate Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 You are reactionary, not receptive. You are more unaccommodating than accommodating. You are conservative. You do not like change. You are apprehensive about the even mildly unusual without even understanding why. You are controlling because you fear not being in control. You worry far too much about what others think of you beyond the merely pragmatic. You will allow your impulse to control you even when your logic tells you it is wrong. And anxiety bugs you more than your actual life warrants..... Wow, for a pro-tattoo person who has spent the whole thread decrying the supposed "judging" of those who have shared, per the OP's request, the fact that they don't care for piercings, and in fact attacking other people for their judgments, that was amazingly....judgmental. Now I'm really starting to turn against piercings and tattoos because the people wearing them seem awfully controlling about other's private opinions. And they also seem to have a confused idea about the meaning of the word "judge". Doesn't it just mean, form a vague opinion about? Is no one supposed to form even the mildest inference about another person? Also, why is the OP so harshly judging the hypothetical asscrack-flashing neurosurgeon chick? Shouldn't see have the right to fly her nasal and pubic freak flags without Daniel rejecting her from even possibly dating him????? 2
pcplod Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Wow, for a pro-tattoo person who has spent the whole thread decrying the supposed "judging" of those who have shared, per the OP's request, the fact that they don't care for piercings, and in fact attacking other people for their judgments, that was amazingly....judgmental. And you have just reacted much as I expected the poster of the original message that I was responding to, to do. It's really ugly when someone does to you what you do to others, isn't it? It's one thing to hold a personal preference, but quite another when you make totally unconnected assumptions about a person based on something else they say or do. It's neither logical or valid, but people do it all the time, me included, but it is wrong and it makes you ugly in any sense of the word you care to apply.
pcplod Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 there is also some kind of rebellious behavior in it. Rosas. Your comments in posts 64, 65, and 66 are so ridiculous and have no bearing on reality that I have to conclude that based on what you have said that, actually, you are nuts. Just felt compelled to share that otherwise private opinion with you publicly. I mean, I could try to attribute it to some sort of weird projection, but it so far off-beam that I can't make a rational connection no matter how I look at it. Is that okay? PS. Do you lurch your way through the whole of your life using this sort of irrational intuition, rather than even try to apply fact and logic to any given situation? It must be really weird. If I weren't prepared to apply a bit of logic, I might wonder if you are sniffing something like lighter fluid or glue, spacing you from reality like that.
c57dood Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 Rosas. Your comments in posts 64, 65, and 66 are so ridiculous and have no bearing on reality that I have to conclude that based on what you have said that, actually, you are nuts. Just felt compelled to share that otherwise private opinion with you publicly. I mean, I could try to attribute it to some sort of weird projection, but it so far off-beam that I can't make a rational connection no matter how I look at it. Is that okay? PS. Do you lurch your way through the whole of your life using this sort of irrational intuition, rather than even try to apply fact and logic to any given situation? It must be really weird. If I weren't prepared to apply a bit of logic, I might wonder if you are sniffing something like lighter fluid or glue, spacing you from reality like that. No, much like myself she's probably tired of having to accept things that are wrong to her and being subjected to walking billboards of poor decisions. Like I said previously, the tattoo and piercing craze is nothing more than a symptom of a society that is rotten and only cares about what makes them feel good without consideration for other people. It's the hyper-individual, screw what people think me me me culture that is responsible for the lack of solid familial and group foundations. It bothers me that in America trying to find a woman who isn't tattooed or pierced is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I don't want to bring home to my mother a girl covered in tattoos. Yet the selfie culture tells me I have to accept this garbage because everyone's doing it?
Maleficent Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) Piercings: I generally don't find facial/body piercings attractive. Ears are fine, but I think gauges look awful. A recent ex of mine had a nipple ring and it was very, very inconvenient. On one occasion when things were getting hot and heavy, I tried to quickly remove his shirt and made him bleed, completely ruining the moment. Tattoos: I generally don't find them attractive. I once had a crush on a former coworker with a good number of tattoos, but I wasn't as physically attracted to him as I'd be to someone else who doesn't have any. I do prefer no tattoos, up to several small ones. I have no piercings or tattoos. Thanks for bringing this thread back on subject! lol Edited May 18, 2013 by Maleficent
apple OR orange Posted May 18, 2013 Posted May 18, 2013 i dont like "body art", anything that can get stuck in an airport metal detector or look like you rested on the news paper to long is a no.... no personal respect as far as i am concerned, always worked for me, not had sex in more than 10 years so perfect way of life.
in_absentia Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 I love tattoos on guys but honestly I hardly notice straight off whether someone has them or not these days, as they're so commonplace it's almost unusual to find somebody who doesn't have any. I wouldn't care either way, though I find them aesthetically pleasing on others. I have two myself, and am getting a third next week (one done when I was 16, one last November)... all three are deeply personal and meaningful to me; one relates to my philosophical beliefs, one is the symbol of my all time favourite band (music I have listened to indepth for nearly nine years, studied at degree level, generally been enraptured by for a long time) and the one I'm getting next week is a lyric from one of my favourite songs (I don't use 'favourite' lightly either!) If someone was put off by my tattoos (one upper left arm, one left shoulder and the third will be snaking around my upper right arm) then that's fine, it's just a preference. I also have a cartilage piercing, my earlobes, a nose ring and my navel. If somebody wants to judge me based on those then I think less of them for being small minded and don't feel any kind of shame for my appearance due to their prejudice. As far as I'm concerned people can modify their own bodies in any way they see fit (branding, piercing, tattooing etc.) and it's nobody's business but their own. I'm so excited to have part of a song that means so very much to be imprinted under my skin permanently. It brings me great satisfaction to know that certain things which are so meaningful I would not be the same person without them are a permanent physical part of me until the day that I die.
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