bob the brave Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 I can't remember where I read it but this is good: A woman is an ocean. Sometimes she rages and sometimes calm. A man cannot tame the sea, nor even influence it. A man is a rocky shore - solid, unchanging. The shore is always there by her side to let her run free and provide a secure place for her to return. 1
BoneyHadger Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Too many times they take advantage of the idea that they are "more emotional" to justify their behaving badly. Meanwhile the man is supposed to take it. It is a reversal of the horrible situation there was in the bad old days when husbands could beat wives. Looking for justifications to behave badly suggests they are just bad people, gender irrelevant. For sure, there are bad guys out there who do the same thing. A woman is an ocean. Sometimes she rages and sometimes calm. A man cannot tame the sea, nor even influence it. A man is a rocky shore - solid, unchanging. The shore is always there by her side to let her run free and provide a secure place for her to return. Wait... You suggest one cannot influence emotions of others in any way? I'm quite sure there is plenty of evidence to the contrary... Edited May 15, 2013 by BoneyHadger
bob the brave Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 You know what I need from a man? Him knowing to shut up when I'm watching wrestling, football, when I'm working out, or playing video games. Sure your name's not Tre?
Woggle Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 Women are not anymore emotinally unstable than men are naturally. They just tend to get away with being flighty and over emotional the way men ourselves get away with certain things. Look for a woman who is not like this and don't put up with being a person's emotional punching bag. 1
bob the brave Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Wait... You suggest one cannot influence emotions of others in any way? I'm quite sure there is plenty of evidence to the contrary... Not sure I quoted correctly. The idea is to express OP's concept that women are emotional creatures, which can be unpredictable and so illogical that men have trouble dealing with them at times. We can try to influence the degree or direction of an emotional response, but we can't prevent them from having it.
Mrlonelyone Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 give me an example/s of "illogicality" a real story that happened on your life In my life just recently. I have been dealing with a young woman who will be very friendly one minute. They will take long walks and have intimate talks with me about all manner of things. Then the next minute we can't even talk without her acting like I killed her new born puppy dog. I can hug her and more one day. The next week if I try to initiate it's a horror. I could go on.
tbf Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Heh, heh, someone's thrown out some bait. Considering how often I get accused of being robotic on LS and told through work encounters that I think like a man, I'm uncertain where you get the "women are very emotional (inferring all women)" thing from.
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 I can't remember where I read it but this is good: A woman is an ocean. Sometimes she rages and sometimes calm. A man cannot tame the sea, nor even influence it. A man is a rocky shore - solid, unchanging. The shore is always there by her side to let her run free and provide a secure place for her to return. Don't forget, though, that the most solid of geological formations have been molded and eroded by the forces of water in all its forms, including glaciers!
joystickd Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 give me an example/s of "illogicality" a real story that happened on your life http://www.loveshack.org/forums/off-topic/personal-rants-confessions/393562-why-lie-women this is very illogical.
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 it takes two to quarrel, but it seems it's women who are expected to change to please men, so we're back in the days before emancipation Only if we cosign on it! I'm not expected to change for men, or a man. If someone expects that, they're in for a let down. If anyone is going to change themselves, it ought to be of their own volition, and because they feel that they will benefit from changing. In my relationships, (friendships and familial included by this point in my life) there is an expectation that BOTH of us will do our best to behave respectfully and to know that our words and actions have consequences, even in the heat of anger. Or other emotions. Which men have as well as women.
joystickd Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 We are all emotional. I was angry as hell today after being lied to and having my time wasted.
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Not sure I quoted correctly. The idea is to express OP's concept that women are emotional creatures, which can be unpredictable and so illogical that men have trouble dealing with them at times. We can try to influence the degree or direction of an emotional response, but we can't prevent them from having it. I think that's a pretty lame generalization. I do NOT believe that women are inherently less logical than men are, though there might be a gender related difference in how men and women generally employ logic. MIGHT. As women, we have been socialized to feel better about expressing the emotions that we do have more than men have been. Stoicism is admired in men; not so much in women. Etc. I bet the men actually "have" the full range of emotions, for the most part. A seething or raging angry man is in no way less an "emotional creature" than a histrionic woman. Either one needs to learn how to deal with and express the feelings they have. Nobody needs to act as their therapist. Except their therapists, of course. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 it takes two to quarrel, but it seems it's women who are expected to change to please men, so we're back in the days before emancipation It does take two to quarrel, but it only takes one person to go off on an emotional binge at the expense of his or her partner. And who is going to do that is not determined by gender.
Good_Spirit Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 In my opinion, I believe a man has to act and live as a gentleman, and that is defined by his actions, ideas and reaction to sensitive situations. So, when dealing with any sort of woman, for me personally, I'd deal with any woman in a gentle way as long as she is respectful of my own feelings -if not, then I'll just move on and meet someone nicer- A gentle touch, doing something good for her to try to minimize the stress and cheer her up for example trying my best to help her with a homework without making it more difficult for her to understand it, or let's say she has few things to do and couldn't wash her clothes or iron them or do some shopping ,then I'd do it for her, that does make a difference and she would feel that someone is actually spending their quality time and energy to make her feel better, and I'm sure she will feel relieved by these kind actions. Some women seem needy because no one ever cared for them when they were children, maybe due to their parents being busy with work or etc... and they grow up to be more of an emotional attachment which most guys don't want since they have "enough on their mind", but it's never enough to make your woman happy no matter what she asks, it'll be so little for the love you both share, so make yourself available for your woman, for your friend, for your mother, for your sister, for your daughters, because what they did is brining your face on Earth, so be grateful for that. Cheers
joystickd Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Oh yes, testosterone is so rational... You didnt know anger heightens rational thought lol. i'm psychic even when i get mad lol
Mme. Chaucer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 You didnt know anger heightens rational thought lol. i'm psychic even when i get mad lol As long as you're not psychO! 1
bob the brave Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 I think that's a pretty lame generalization. I do NOT believe that women are inherently less logical than men are, though there might be a gender related difference in how men and women generally employ logic. MIGHT. Seems I've stepped in a big pile of ...... I was merely posting a phrase I read once that backed up what OP was saying then paraphrasing what IT is meant to mean. It is not a view I hold entirely. Women are just as logical as men. It just seems they are more swayed by emotion. I have seen couples where the man is the ocean and the shore is the women. I think the ratio I've seen is somewhere around 60:40 women:men are ocean.
tbf Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 You didnt know anger heightens rational thought lol. i'm psychic even when i get mad lolNo offense but that statement isn't logical. If you were psychic, whether calm or angry, wouldn't you have been able to read the woman who you felt was leading you on?
xxoo Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Men are emotional. They just express emotions more accepted by men, and women express emotions more accepted by women. We each are a rock for each other. This became especially important once we had children. ONE parent can freak out at any given time, but the OTHER parent must remain calm and carry on. Wait your turn for your emotional breakdown. 2
Keenly Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 I've never once met a woman that would cooperate with emotional fair and equal treatment. Does that mean they don't exist? Absolutely not. But women in their early twenties, so often, hide behind the fact they are women to : Be a complete bitch. Make you feel like her problems are more important than his. Freak out about insignificant things. Cry to manipulate ( you are lying to yourself if you think this doesn't happen ) Again, I'm only 23, so I can only speak as to the sum total of all my female experiences. My mother was more like a man emotionally so this is all I've seen.
joystickd Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 No offense but that statement isn't logical. If you were psychic, whether calm or angry, wouldn't you have been able to read the woman who you felt was leading you on? It was a joke. Got humor? She actually did lead me on people that know both of us I talked to today are in agreement.
Woggle Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 I've never once met a woman that would cooperate with emotional fair and equal treatment. Does that mean they don't exist? Absolutely not. But women in their early twenties, so often, hide behind the fact they are women to : Be a complete bitch. Make you feel like her problems are more important than his. Freak out about insignificant things. Cry to manipulate ( you are lying to yourself if you think this doesn't happen ) Again, I'm only 23, so I can only speak as to the sum total of all my female experiences. My mother was more like a man emotionally so this is all I've seen. If you have never met a woman that doesn't do this you need to start seeking out better quality women.
Keenly Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 If you have never met a woman that doesn't do this you need to start seeking out better quality women. Its an age / maturity issue. My generation sucks for maturity.
xxoo Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Again, both young women and young men have more trouble regulating their emotions. How many men in their teen and 20s get into physical fights with other men? How many men in their 30s and 40s do that? It's the same with young women and their emotions. It takes time for people to mature and learn to manage their emotions in a more adult manner. 1
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