This is for all of you "PLAYERS" out there---Men! Why do SOME men feel the...

[netrie]

need to lie and continue having sexual flings with as many women as they can while they string one or two decent females along eventually devastating her or all emotionally? Are you afraid of letting go and letting a woman know how needy you truly are behind the facade of sexul pursuit? Insecure?

 

[color=orange]Why not just let go and be honest and risk being vulnerable with one loving female? And seek a stable loving relationship? What about STD's and do you care? [/color]

 

[color=red]Most important, be honest: Is there a woman-hating factor in the deepest part of your psyche? Does it deal with your MOTHERS? [/color]

 

[color=darkblue]Women, what do you think about this?[/color]

 

Warmest Regards,

 

Netalia

[Fayebelle]

Men wouldn't do this if women didn't put up w/it. Lying and cheating- there are signs- and if a woman chooses to ignore them- she's asking for trouble. OW who know they are the OW and OK w/it- they are letting him get away w/it. Sleeping w/someone you really don't know and then being surprised to find they have a harem- well how do you expect them to care if they just met you that nt?

 

There are exceptions to every rule- but if women and men united and said "It's not OK to treat people I care about like crap and I won't sleep w/people I don't care about" then the player mentality would disolve. Unfortunately- these days it seems people think it's cool to be a player. I think it's pitiful.

[toffee]

i believe when a man find someone he's satisfied with he'll settle down. many continue to play because there needs are not being completely fulfilled with one woman. so, he continues to roam and seek satisfaction.

[WantanS4]

Could the smae be true whent he roles are reversed??? ahahaha.. this is rediculous.. but honestly... i think my ex did that to me... didn't feel...'fulfilled'... dumb bi.tch

 

Why do men act the way they do? Because they're selfish...... and because they have grownup/been around other guys that believe that believe a woman isn't a person and should not be respect, instead 'used' and 'replaceable'.

 

Take me for instance, I was never a part of the crowd... in fact.. i hated it... and hence.... i don't f/uck around........ yes... i find woman every attractive.. but i appreciate beauty... i don't go hooting and hollering around with my balls on fire... it's rediculous.........

 

all i'm saying is that it's a learned behavior... and somehow.. being the 'loner' that i am....... i didn't learn it........

[netrie]

Yes. We women need to be able to detect these things but it is sometimes after we have fallen in love with the man. No contact rule time!!!!!!!!

[WantanS4]

but then again... some women like guys that treat them like ****..... that take them for granted and are all about 'sex'............... it's seems like most of these days.. that's all women are about............

 

we go back to the arguement... why do woman dress the way they do?......... is it really for themselves?? or is it for the opposite sex??? or is it both (i.e. for the opposite sex... they attract... and feel 'better' about themselves)???

 

 

i think if we answer that... then we'll start to get somewhere....

[Fayebelle]

Originally posted by WantanS4

Could the smae be true whent he roles are reversed???

 

Quite right- I just used the pronouns already provided in the question. I feel the same is true for both genders.

 

As for your 2nd post- I think a person's attitude/personality/awareness have a lot more to say about whether they would get "played" then the way the dress. More women dress conservatively than in a skimpy manner- and they are not immune to cheaters just b/c they cover themselves.

[WantanS4]

No No.. that's what I'm saying.....

 

A lot of the fashion women wear these days as 'casual' is not soo casual.. it's tantilizing...... i mean... just as i said... i see a beautiful woman... i look... and i appreciate... where every other guy/man i know... is muffling 'i'd like to....' or 'WOO!'... or 'i bet she can really...'...... which to me is bul.l.shi.t.

 

awareness... that's an excellent point.........

 

as far as attitude.. you dress in how you are...... you act in what you are.... i'm very conservative... i dress conservatively... and i walk around with a yul brener frown.... that literally says 'don't f.uck with me unless you think your good enough too'... why?... i don't know.. tha't just who i am... i don't play games.... and what we're discussing is just a big game where people get hurt........

 

sadly enough... i got burned by my ex... because she 'fell' inot the wrong crowd... hence her confusion.... hence she'll regret one day when her friends fail her...

[Fayebelle]

This is another place where attitude comes into play- If I EVER heard a man saying those things about a woman- no matter what she was wearing- he'd meet the backside of my purse as it smacked his cheek. This is where attitude comes into play- I'm not upity- but I (and everyone else) deserve better than cheap comments like that and I'll quickly let it be known. Anyone who falls for someone who "hollas" at them has to resign themselves to the fact that any man who speaks so boldly to a woman is probally throwing bait out there to more than 1 (and sadly will find more than 1) to bite- and not be blindsided if he turns out to be a player.

[Scott S]

...need to lie and continue having sexual flings with as many women as they can while they string one or two decent females along eventually devastating her or all emotionally? Are you afraid of letting go and letting a woman know how needy you truly are behind the facade of sexul pursuit? Insecure?

 

I can't speak for ALL men, especially since I like very much to think that _I'm_ not the kind of man you're describing.

 

For some, the attitude is that women are merely objects of conquest & domination. It may be in order to boast to their friends. It may be to make him feel good about himself or inflate his ego. A lack of respect for woemn & people in general.

 

Why not just let go and be honest and risk being vulnerable with one loving female? And seek a stable loving relationship?

 

Having let go & been honest, & risked being vulernable in the past, & being hurt as a result. Having tried & failed repeatedly for various reasons.

 

Is there a woman-hating factor in the deepest part of your psyche? Does it deal with your MOTHERS?

 

Not a hatred so much as contempt & disrespect. Often the result of perceived or actual contempt, disrespect etc. FROM women. Or maybe he witnessed his father treating his mother like a doormat throughout childhood, & grew up believing that's acceptable.

 

I regret that you've been hurt so badly.

[WantanS4]

That's the thing.... 98% of the men in this world do it... just because nothing comes out of their mouth doesn't mean that it's not running through their minds.............

 

so the next time you walk by a guy.. and he's starring/glancing/looking too much..... just imagine him giong home and masturbating to you..... literally.... it's what they do......

[netrie]

Originally posted by Fayebelle

If I EVER heard a man saying those things about a woman- no matter what she was wearing- he'd meet the backside of my purse as it smacked his cheek.

 

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

[Taken_Angel]

Fayebelle you made an excellent point!

 

There are exceptions to every rule- but if women and men united and said "It's not OK to treat people I care about like crap and I won't sleep w/people I don't care about" then the player mentality would disolve. Unfortunately- these days it seems people think it's cool to be a player. I think it's pitiful.

 

Today I'm electing you the LS president! Hahaha!

 

But for real what you said is so true.....you can't just "jump into having sex" with someone you just meet. I mean you can (shouldn't) but then WHY complain when you realize he has no respect for you and has other "lays" on the side???

 

 

[color=red]KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED UNTIL YOU KNOW SOMEONE WELL ENOUGH TO SEE WHAT KIND OF PERSON THEY ARE![/color]

 

Sorry but I agree now days it seems that the "thing to do" IS to sleep with someone when you first meet them! How tacky is that (you should have more self respect than that)??? JUST MHO of course!

 

Women (sometimes) do allow these things to happen they open themselves up to it by lying down with the dog when they first meet him, (him telling them what they want to hear in order to get some) and the girl thinking (he'll like me more I can tell him I "never do this kind of thing" and since I'm "giving it up" he'll have to want me). (or something along those lines).......Pop-culture now days are making it seem like the "in" thing to do to be a hoochie and the guy to be a "player" but it's sad and sick because down the line once they are older and wiser it will be realized how whorish all that behavior really was....

[WantanS4]

""""HAAAA LE LU YA""""""""""""""

 

There are still REAL women left for us REAL MEN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Okay.. i've heard enough now... i can go home and enjoy my scotch.... .the world is a better place today. Any of you single and looking for someone who's honest/committed/successful? Drop me a PM

[DrunkenMonk]

Anyone who blames guys wanting to nail lots of women on insecurity or having a deep seeded problem with his mother is simple rationalizing to make themselves feel better. Much like how christians confide in heaven as being the big payoff for putting up with this ****ty life. Why would "enlightenment" appeal to the biggest flaw of humanity, greed. Just droppin a little 19 year old knowledge.

 

Tah Dow

[DrunkenMonk]

(Tips his hat to Faybelle for the good quote)

[netrie]

Originally posted by DrunkenMonk

Anyone who blames guys wanting to nail lots of women on insecurity or having a deep seeded problem with his mother is simple rationalizing to make themselves feel better. Much like how christians confide in heaven as being the big payoff for putting up with this ****ty life. Why would "enlightenment" appeal to the biggest flaw of humanity, greed. Just droppin a little 19 year old knowledge.

 

Tah Dow

 

Explain your position. Give me your perspective on this thing we are calling confusion...

[DrunkenMonk]

Well you can take the "nature" perspective because men are "programmed" to spread genetic material all over the place. I mean, even if your with the hottest girl on earth who has no flaws whatsoever, I would look at girls who have crooked teeth or weird faces, you know what I mean? If you have a girl with huge boobs your gonna look at girls with little ones. Its just kinda the way of the world. I dont play myself but I feel the urges and understand their origin.

 

DrunkenMonk

[DrunkenMonk]

between womens genetics that tell them they need to find a guy that will nail them and stay with them to raise the kid. Guys are just trying to pass down their self proclaimed superior genes to as many women as possible.