lakerman34 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) I'm still in South Africa. A new girl and two guys just joined the program. I'm almost 23, new girl is 20, both the guys are 19-20. The new girl started liking me (or so I think) pretty instantly. On a car ride back from a restaurant, she was laughing at EVERYTHING ridiculous I had to say. She (seems) like the quiet type. Then we started to hang out. I was sure to throw in some sexual innuendos in my talks with her, make sure she doesn't throw me in the friend zone. We had this thing going where I called her a 'dork' and she called me a 'nerd.' She seemed to like the idea that I was 'probably a genius,' (her words), and she liked when I said things like "I don't go for your stereotypical hottie with a body. A girl with a good mind and that is witty is much more my type." She responded well to most things I said. VERY well. We were texting alllll day during work. I'd tease her, she'd tease me. We had two movie nights together, I took her to this short films screening, and we went to hot yoga together. People started talking, wondering if we were dating. My thoughts on this are 'who cares what others think?,' but perhaps this got to her. Then, the second movie night (it was Wednesday night) I tried to sort of make a move in my awkward way. We were watching Zoolander. The night before, I kept touching her leg, but I didn't feel it was right to hook up with her. Didn't feel right. That night, it felt right (kind of). I was drinking white wine (just got back from hot yoga with her), but she wasn't drinking. I started playing a little rough with her. Not to hurt her or anything, but I didn't have my shirt on, I'm a big muscular guy, she's a tiny girl. I hugged her around the neck (it was endearing and affectionate). She struggled a little, and so I let her go. She wasn't upset or anything, but she left. The next day, we had an organized drink night with our group. She came with one of the other guys (not as a date, but just arrived together), he's SUCH a bro, stuck-up, wears tank tops, starting college in UC Santa Barbara, comes from money. She was avoiding me, it seemed, so I said 'hi' to her, and then looked over at her a few times when she was with the guy, and I realized that she was looking over at me quite a few times and batted her eyes when I caught her. That night, she texted me (she was drunk). She told me that I scared her the night before. I told her I was dealing with some demons, and booz has been getting to me, and that I would tone it down a bit. Then, she told me I was choking her (which wasn't true at all). I told her if she was afraid of me, she should just stay away, but I never would hurt a fly, and never in a billion years hurt a woman. She told me I was too aggressive, and I told her "yeah, probably, but I guess I'll tone it down." She added me on Facebook. I didn't respond right away, but when I did, I sent her a message regarding a conversation we had earlier in the week. I told her to tell me her favorite villain in a movie, and also a character in movies that reminds her of her the most. She said she'd get back to me. She never heard of the character I chose for me, so I sent her a YouTube video with the message "the abridged version. I'm awaiting your character. Also, your villain." That was Friday night. According to Facebook, she hasn't even seen the message yet. I was out of town with a couple of doctor friends this weekend. I told all my coworkers and doctors the story, they all thought it was ridiculous. One of the girls I work with pulled me aside and told me that the girl came to her and said, "I know you work with him, and he's a really nice guy and I really like him, but does he come off as aggressive to you?" I came back to town, and told one of my friends (a girl) about the situation with this girl. She told me she saw her with the bro at a bar, and it looked like they were flirting "pretty heavily," then claimed that she didn't see them kiss or dance together, and he left first. Shortly after, she said "wait, they could have left together maybe, honestly, I was too drunk and wasn't really paying attention to them. It did look like something was up though." She didn't come across to me as the type of girl that would go for your stereotypical bro, and she seemed interested in me, but the time was never right to make a move (always someone around, and I wasn't sure I liked her the first movie night). If I really was "too aggressive" for her, perhaps if I DID go for a kiss, she would have batted me away? IDK. I'm starting to think you guys are right and I am probably overvaluing my game. OR she has been waiting for me to come back and give her a call (she knew I was out of town on holiday for the weekend -- perhaps she wanted to let me be, and nothing more than "just flirting" is going on with the bro?" I HAVE noticed that the bro, a kid I used to be friendly with, has been acting especially broish to me lately (ever since this alleged choking). Your typical 19/20 year old douche. Thoughts? Edited April 14, 2013 by lakerman34
lynn1954 Posted April 14, 2013 Posted April 14, 2013 Dude, chill. You're too intense. Just relax and treat her with kindness, respect, friendliness. Have a sense of humor and when in doubt, do less, not more. You think too much! Good luck and have fun! 1
Author lakerman34 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 Dude, chill. You're too intense. Just relax and treat her with kindness, respect, friendliness. Have a sense of humor and when in doubt, do less, not more. You think too much! Good luck and have fun! I'm an intense dude, sure, but this whole thing was blown out of proportion by her. I think she may have realized it. She has grown up with 3 sisters (no guys) and I 2 brothers (no girls). That may have something to do with it. The girls I told about the incident responded with "my guy friends wrestle/fight me all the time." It's just what we testosterone-filled maniacs do.
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 Dude, chill. You're too intense. Just relax and treat her with kindness, respect, friendliness. Have a sense of humor and when in doubt, do less, not more. You think too much! Good luck and have fun! I definitely disagree with this. If anything, it's the opposite: when in doubt, make a move. OP, you just have to be more careful since you say you're a big guy. One of my friends has an issue with this too. He's a big guy with a naturally strong build, but he's a huge teddy bear. Women tend to be intimidated by him and when he was less experienced, he used to frighten them off. Now, he's a bit more passive with his approach (which is the opposite of my style....since I'm a short guy with skinny build, I'm more aggressive with my approaches). This new approach has worked very well for him and he has a hot girlfriend that he met on a cold approach.
Author lakerman34 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 What I'm essentially asking is: my chance gone or not? Did I blow it? I want to go to yoga tonight. Her free week ends on Wednesday. Do I invite her to come with? My roommate (he's the best) said he'd come with if it'd make her more comfortable. 1
HoneyBadgerDontCare Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 What I'm essentially asking is: my chance gone or not? Did I blow it? I want to go to yoga tonight. Her free week ends on Wednesday. Do I invite her to come with? My roommate (he's the best) said he'd come with if it'd make her more comfortable. I say ask her and see what happens. If she blows you off, focus on other girls and put her on the backburner.
Author lakerman34 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 I say ask her and see what happens. If she blows you off, focus on other girls and put her on the backburner. I texted her 2 hours ago asking her. No response. This is a girl that always has her phone with her and texts like there's no tomorrow. Backburner it (probably) is. Shame. I also have a hunch that some of the other bishes in the group I'm in are putting ideas in her head about me.
Author lakerman34 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 Well, she texted me when I was at work today. Told me she got a new phone and new number. So I asked her what happened, her phone was stolen (oh Africa). Then I asked her to yoga, she seemed down. If I find out she and bro have a thing going, I will drop her so very fast. Will keep y'all posted.
Estate Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 I don't think this is overly different to the last dilemma you had. It's hard to interpret the hug/choke. I know what you meant to do, just make yourself seem big but cuddly but whatever way you maneuvered it, it probably came off aggressive if she felt threatened rather than comforted by it. Hugging like that was probably the wrong move... if you're big and she's small then overplaying the "big guy" things will come off aggressive if it seemed you would touch her in a way she wasn't comfortable with and also more scared if she genuinely felt she wouldn't be able to get herself out of a bad situation if you over powered her. I think you needed to spend more time actually making her comfortable around you before pushing things. I get the feeling you are stand offish in terms of any touching until you know she likes you and then over do it... this will scare a girl. Either you're the guy who playfully touches girls on the arm from the start and build up to more or you can't go barrelling in and being REALLY touchy when previously you never were.... ... imagine someone who never touched you, one day begins to be very touchy and grabby with you... feels weird. Saying the thing about drinking problems and "demons"... well, you just sealed your own faith there... why on earth would you tell someone this stuff??? In terms of moving faster like the last girl? Who knows... it's probably not the same situation. Maybe you could have slept with her that night but just some heavy making out without playing the big guy act may have been enough to make her continue to like you. It's hard to tell how far was appropriate to take things from your post. So I won't say this time that not sleeping with her was a fail, it may well not have been in this case, but the agression... yes, definitely. Dude, it's not that you don't have "game". It seems like you can attract a girl alright since you are meeting new girls a lot from the sound of your posts. But it sounds like once she shows interest back, you go from being the nice fun guy that she liked, into something else and that is probably off putting. On one hand it's like all of a sudden you are becoming insecure but also outwardly trying to be overly sexual and dominant without really backing it up due to the insecurities. You want to continue to be the same guy she liked from the start, do't change once she shows interest. It also seem like, as soon as a girl shows interest back to you, that you feel its "job done" and you can do as you want from there... but this is only the BEGINNING of the game. So the same advice applies, you can't act nice then change. In terms of the other guy... again... who knows... maybe she lost interest in you and his timing was right. If this is all a holiday thing then maybe she doesn't like "bros" but is down for whatever while on vacation. Or maybe nothing happened at all, who knows... but I think you need to stop assuming so much attraction from these girls until it is real... As I said, you have SOME game but you're letting overthinking get the better of it. 1
Estate Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 I'm an intense dude, sure, but this whole thing was blown out of proportion by her. I think she may have realized it. She has grown up with 3 sisters (no guys) and I 2 brothers (no girls). That may have something to do with it. The girls I told about the incident responded with "my guy friends wrestle/fight me all the time." It's just what we testosterone-filled maniacs do. Also... this... this is the WRONG attitude. If she felt unsafe then she is not blowing it out of proportion. No matter how silly it seems to you, having the attitude that SHE is wrong is an awful, awful way to win this back. It doesn't matter how minor it was, you over stepped her boundaries. Everyone is entitled to their boundaries and it is your responsibility to respect them. This was YOUR fault and if the things she said got back to you hearing them, then you can be sure that you telling those same people that "she is blowing it out of proportion" and that its her fault will also get back to her and further bury you. To be honest, I think you blew it. Just stop over analysing things in future and stop being so intense.... you seem to talk a good game but don't really get it. I can only assume you have read a lot of PUA material because you seem like the stereotypical guy who has read all this macho stuff about being a man, and aggressive and taking control yet lack the social intuition as to when this applies and when it doesn't. You need to relax. 2
TKizz Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 Also... this... this is the WRONG attitude. If she felt unsafe then she is not blowing it out of proportion. No matter how silly it seems to you, having the attitude that SHE is wrong is an awful, awful way to win this back. This is really good advice. Assuming that she's automatically in the wrong just because you disagree with her assessment of the situation shows me that the focus is really on how YOU feel about the whole thing, and not about whether or not you made her feel uncomfortable, disrespected, or however else she feels. Put yourself in her shoes. If a girl who you really had a connection with did or said something to offend you and you backed off, wouldn't it just piss you off more if she expected you to act like nothing happened, or even worse, if she told her friends that "he just COMPLETELY blew this thing out of proportion"? 2
Author lakerman34 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) This is really good advice. Assuming that she's automatically in the wrong just because you disagree with her assessment of the situation shows me that the focus is really on how YOU feel about the whole thing, and not about whether or not you made her feel uncomfortable, disrespected, or however else she feels. Put yourself in her shoes. If a girl who you really had a connection with did or said something to offend you and you backed off, wouldn't it just piss you off more if she expected you to act like nothing happened, or even worse, if she told her friends that "he just COMPLETELY blew this thing out of proportion"? she invited the bro to yoga with us. It was just me, her, and that kid. He was playing very sweet with her, probably what she likes. I've seen this kid, he's usually loud, obnoxious, and talks about people behind their back, but w/ him, he was a sweet guy. I stayed away from them, and at the end of the yoga session, I told him "you did a good job, man." At one point, I had her alone. I asked her "we are cool, right?" She said "yes." Honestly, she was drunk when she sent those text messages. I think she may think she overreacted. Who knows. I cracked a few jokes, put on a smile, but when we were in the elevator at our flat, she asked if I had a movie so they could watch. I gave them one, and told them to enjoy. When she left my room, I was a bit upset. A friend of hers and the guy told me they were "just friends." Of course, I don't believe it, but w/e. Just about half an hour ago, she texted me about the movie. It was "too much." She came to my room to drop the movie off, and we spoke about it for a couple of minutes. Then she said something what I would consider "dorky," so I went back to the "OMG YOU ARE SUCH A DORK." And she said "whatever nerd, see you at yoga tomorrow." Friend-zoned? I think so. Eh whatever. Trying to convince myself that I'm over it. Edited April 15, 2013 by lakerman34 1
TKizz Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 she invited the bro to yoga with us. It was just me, her, and that kid. He was playing very sweet with her, probably what she likes. I've seen this kid, he's usually loud, obnoxious, and talks about people behind their back, but w/ him, he was a sweet guy. I stayed away from them, and at the end of the yoga session, I told him "you did a good job, man." At one point, I had her alone. I asked her "we are cool, right?" She said "yes." Honestly, she was drunk when she sent those text messages. I think she may think she overreacted. Who knows. I cracked a few jokes, put on a smile, but when we were in the elevator at our flat, she asked if I had a movie so they could watch. I gave them one, and told them to enjoy. When she left my room, I was a bit upset. A friend of hers and the guy told me they were "just friends." Of course, I don't believe it, but w/e. Just about half an hour ago, she texted me about the movie. It was "too much." She came to my room to drop the movie off, and we spoke about it for a couple of minutes. Then she said something what I would consider "dorky," so I went back to the "OMG YOU ARE SUCH A DORK." And she said "whatever nerd, see you at yoga tomorrow." Friend-zoned? I think so. Eh whatever. Trying to convince myself that I'm over it. Awwww, snap...D= Well...hopefully then I guess this thread offers some good feedback for next time?
Author lakerman34 Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 Awwww, snap...D= Well...hopefully then I guess this thread offers some good feedback for next time? yeah i guess. i mean, for what it's worth, they weren't flirty with each other, touching each other, or even being playful with each other. but then again, she could have come to my room to watch a movie with me, and went to his. the way she smiles at him is how she used to smile at me. dammit. whatever. i'm leaving next week anyways. my roommate tells me "he's a bro. just sit back and wait for him to annoy her." doubt that's going to happen in less than a week's time.
Estate Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 Stop blaming HER. If she felt unsafe then it was YOUR responsibility to to not let that happen. Every has different boundaries and you over stepped hers. Stop overthinking EVERYTHING!!! Stop talking negatively about everyone. So, he looks like a Bro? So what, maybe he actually IS a nice guy or has a lot going for him or whatever, maybe he IS just a piece of meat but you are on holidays... all bets are off. I doubt she's looking for the love of her life.... is some "bro" can show her a good time while some other guys is texting her about his "demons", guess which guy she'll be in bed with tonight? SORT OUT YOUR "DEMONS". I don't know what all this is but if you have real issues then work those out first and then go meet girls. Stop assuming every girl is "nice". Every time... "Oh, she's not that sort of girl", "She wouldn't want that guy", "We connect on a deep level because we made some joke or talked about a book", or whatever... Yeah, these things are good in the flirty stage but they mean nothing... are they a good sign? YES! Do they mean she wants to jump you? NO! Stop changing your attitude as soon as girls flity back. It seems like the second a girl shows interest you go from being a genuinely fun guy to dumping all your problems on them and being needy as ****. Stop assuming because a girl flirted with you that it's "job done". If she's flirting back it just means you caught her attention, NOW is where it STARTS. We're actually trying to help man, but you're replies still focus on "Oh, but she showed me some interest, she smiled at a joke 2 weeks ago, there's no way she's getting with this other dude now, we had a thing... I bet she'll come running back"... just like last time... and I hate to say we all told you so ... but... 2
Author lakerman34 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Posted April 19, 2013 So I stopped talking to the girl. I’d see her on the streets or in the apartment, give her a chin raise ‘sup’ kind of thing, and she’d rather not respond or just say ‘hey.’ A friend of mine and her friend who were on a safari (both are 4 years older than me) came home on Sunday night. I told them what had happened. Her friend said ‘the bro? hahaha I thought he was gay to be honest (when they met him at the club).’ The day after we went to yoga, we were supposed to go again. I asked the girl what time, she never responded. Next day, I found out they went without me. OK, something is DEFINITELY going on. Wednesday night, I got a text from the other 19 yr old guy. He really likes me, and I think he’s cool. There is a pregame in his room. My flatmate and I decide to go check it out, there are 20 people in there. The girl gave me the stank-eye when I walked in. Later in the pregame, the kid that invited me was feeling sick. I took care of him. Then, she started talking to me: “Is he alright?” I just responded ‘he’s alright, don’t worry about it, I got it.’ We then all went out to a bar. I was having a great time all night, laughing, making jokes, and I bought one of the girls (just a friend) in the group a drink. Turns out, she was the girl’s flatmate. Later in the night, the girl texts me saying she doesn’t feel well and just wants me to take her home and cuddle. I didn’t see her drink much all night, and she didn’t seem too drunk to me at all. I decide, with her roommate, to walk her home. I’m acting distant all the way home, aside from basically carrying her. She INSISTS on coming into my room to watch a movie and ‘cuddle.’ I told her she can lay on the couch. She told me she was cold, but I only have my comforter. She said ‘that’s alright,’ and I just gave it to her. Then, she asked me to carry her to the toilet. She was talking nonsense (i.e. about some mouse in a movie at one point). I closed the door, but then she asked me to hold her. So I did. She acted as if she was going to die. I told her I wouldn’t let anything happen to her, and she made me promise, so I did. She didn’t even throw up. I even had her do the two fingers down the throat trick, nothing. Meanwhile, my flatmate is in his room. I open up his door and tell him the situation and say ‘if she accuses me of ANYTHING, you witnessed that I did NOTHING but help her.’ He got it. She then went to the couch, and I bundled her in my comforter. She told me she was still cold. Then asked to cuddle. I said ‘f it, I can for a little bit.’ She started kissing on my chest, and it ended up in a make-out sesh. Then she said ‘take me,’ and I said “you are drunk. I don’t know if that’s the best idea.” She said “lakerman34, I’ve wanted this for quite some time now from you. If I didn’t want it, I’d say no.” I carry her to the bed, we have sex, and then have real talk about life, death, people, pretentious people, how the world needs to become a better place, at this point, I’m convinced she was messing with me and I am drunker than she is. One slight turn-off was she asked me if I had any STDs. What a GREAT way to keep me hot! Anyway, at about 3:30AM, she got dressed and went home. I told her that as long as this happened, I preferred nobody knew about it. She said “you got it.” I also told her people thought we were dating. She said “F them.” I asked her about the bro, and her response was, “I love the guy, but I’m pretty certain he’s gay. I know the area is from, he has a gay little brother, there’s a difference between being in touch with your feminine side and then being REALLLLLY in touch with your feminine side. Most of the girls are pretty sure he’s gay, which is cool.” I had to laugh a little bit, but said ‘good on him, don’t ask him though. If he’s not out, don’t force him.” She agreed and left. I told my 26 year old friend about the trip (she is not apart of the group, is 26, like a big sister to me, and wouldn’t tell anybody). She was surprised it happened, but warned me of her possibly claiming it was something that it was not. She told me to get in contact with her. I asked her to yoga via FB, she said “I am going to pass,” I asked her if she wanted to have a movie night last via text, no response, and I made a joke to her via Facebook today, no response. I’m hoping she isn’t weirded out. Hopefully, it’s just a matter of her only wanting to talk to me when I’m REALLY drunk and she’s REALLY drunk. I’m usually not into the ONS, but due to all the stress lately, I’m very OK with this arrangement. I’m trying to get a bunch of people clubbing tonight. Lets see if she comes….keep y’all updated. EDIT: Also, I brought up the choking story. She insists I did choke her, but she knows I’m a nice guy and didn’t mean to. She told me ‘just don’t do it again, I enjoy oxygen.” She also said she's a little bit afraid of me, and knows there's something dark inside of me, but thinks that my light will always overcome it. Interesting.
Author lakerman34 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 She's crazy. Staying far, far away.
Buttercup84 Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 She's crazy. Staying far, far away. What happened ?
Archgirl Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Dude she's insane and getting off on the drama she's creating. She's blowing hot and cold because this maximises the emotional tension for her and I wouldn't be the slightest bit suprised if part of the story she's acting out is where she has two guys after her and so she is also carrying on with the other guy you mention. Her primary motivation is drama, it doesn't matter who you are as person just on what emotional hit you can give her and she'll happily play out her games with whoever provides the biggest hit at any given time. And failing that, if you don't provide the drama she'll just make one up - like the choking. Protect yourself and your reputation and get rid of her. There's no scenario in which this ends well. I liked the last girl better Good to see you again, is the trip going well apart from your appalling taste in women? Edit: Dammit on the timing! Just saw you already worked out she was a total head-case. Snarkgirl strikes again 2
Author lakerman34 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 Dude she's insane and getting off on the drama she's creating. Isn’t passive-aggressive better than just passive or just aggressive? Anyways, what happened was she stopped talking to me, all together. Then, I went to a room last night where the pregame was going on. Almost as soon as I came in, she walked out. Could have been because I was there, could have been because she needed to get ready to go out to the bars. Who knows. Last night, I was at a house with my two flatmates and the 19 year old (not the bro). He had me alone and asked “between both of us men, did you choke her?” I said ‘hell no.’ He believed me. Then he told me that the bro and her had sex, and he fell in love with her, and she’s stringing him along now. He’s convinced she’s obsessed with me, and is an attention whore. She was always so sweet to me, but apparently she’s sticking to this choking story. I asked the kid what people thought of me in the group, he said ‘they think you are a crazy psycho. I know it’s BS, some don’t believe it, but the majority, mostly the girls, think you are a crazy psycho.’ Also, after much thought, I don’t think she was ever drunk that night. She didn’t get sick, I never saw her with a drink, and she seemed very sober when talking to people. I think it was all a setup to get with me.
Archgirl Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 Isn’t passive-aggressive better than just passive or just aggressive? Anyways, what happened was she stopped talking to me, all together. Then, I went to a room last night where the pregame was going on. Almost as soon as I came in, she walked out. Could have been because I was there, could have been because she needed to get ready to go out to the bars. Who knows. Last night, I was at a house with my two flatmates and the 19 year old (not the bro). He had me alone and asked “between both of us men, did you choke her?” I said ‘hell no.’ He believed me. Then he told me that the bro and her had sex, and he fell in love with her, and she’s stringing him along now. He’s convinced she’s obsessed with me, and is an attention whore. She was always so sweet to me, but apparently she’s sticking to this choking story. I asked the kid what people thought of me in the group, he said ‘they think you are a crazy psycho. I know it’s BS, some don’t believe it, but the majority, mostly the girls, think you are a crazy psycho.’ Also, after much thought, I don’t think she was ever drunk that night. She didn’t get sick, I never saw her with a drink, and she seemed very sober when talking to people. I think it was all a setup to get with me. I dunno dude. But youre neither, just have appalling taste in women! How long til you get back? I'm still hoping you'll run into your almost one night stand nearly relationship smart kooky girl again and make it work
Author lakerman34 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 I dunno dude. But youre neither, just have appalling taste in women! How long til you get back? I'm still hoping you'll run into your almost one night stand nearly relationship smart kooky girl again and make it work I wish, but I think that ship has sailed.
Archgirl Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 I wish, but I think that ship has sailed. Yes but how long til you get back dude! ?!? I can dream I liked her way better than this one!
Estate Posted April 20, 2013 Posted April 20, 2013 So that long post from yesterday.... Basically you could have saved writing the whole thing and said "She is on holidays, she's pretty much down for whatever with whoever and she's being a bit bitchy towards me so I'm not really interested.". Dude, what are you at? You're LETTING her create the drama... Do you know how easy it would be to ACTUALLY stay out of her way? But look above, every time you so much as leave your house, you know where she is, what she's doing at all times! You know they tell people not to stare at the car ahead if it were to crash because you subconsciously steer towards what you are looking at. Like, just IGNORE her... don't find out where she is, what she's doing, who she's with, don't take care of her when she's pretending to be sick (and jesus christ, do not make her stick fingers down her throat, seriously???). Also, a girl slightly concerned about STD's is a turn off for you? Man, sort your head out!!!!
Author lakerman34 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Posted April 20, 2013 Yes but how long til you get back dude! ?!? I can dream I liked her way better than this one! As did I. For me, she had LTR potential, but she just doesn't see me the same way (or, if she does, which there still is a slim chance, she won't ever admit it until it's perhaps too late). I was supposed to be back in the States on Wednesday, but I'm trying to extend my stay until June 2. If she admitted to me she liked me (which she won't), I'd gladly fly back on Wednesday and be with her. She really is the closest thing to perfect for me I've had the chance of almost dating.
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