Scientific articles on the priority of physical attraction in men vs. women

[Disenchantedly Yours]

so if a man likes a beautiful women it doesnt make him shallow

 

Not always. It depends on a lot of things but one factor is if he wants to use her beauty for himself, to his ultimate pleasure, or if he simply enjoys her as a beautiful person.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Oh please gay men are the ones who create beauty trends its why you see women who look like 10 year old boys plastered over tv as the definiton of female beauty.

 

That is one part of it. And the other part is the part where women are suppose to look like lving, walking Barbie Dolls. Which I tend to believe is the visuals we see more of vs the 10 year old boy one. Even in Victoria Secrets commercials, women are expected to look like living Barbies.

 

 

Lets not act like men dont have pressure either..short men are at a huge disadvantage in the dating world and there is nothing they can do about their height so men are not the only ones with strict physical preferences stop it.

 

I do think shorter men can have disadvantages in the dating world. Although, I think that a shorter man's personality will make up for alot more then an plain woman's personality would.

[Keenly]

This is what happens when political correctness drifts into the dating realm. Suddenly we are not allowed to follow our own feelings of attractiveness. Men are shallow if they go after girls they find to be gorgeous, so are we supposed to sacrifice some of our happiness to find girls we are not attracted to? Is that what you want? I can assure you, the relationship quality will suffer if a man is not attracted to his woman.

[PJKino]

That is one part of it. And the other part is the part where women are suppose to look like lving, walking Barbie Dolls. Which I tend to believe is the visuals we see more of vs the 10 year old boy one. Even in Victoria Secrets commercials, women are expected to look like living Barbies.

 

 

 

 

I do think shorter men can have disadvantages in the dating world. Although, I think that a shorter man's personality will make up for alot more then an plain woman's personality would.

 

Let me know when hundreds of men wish death on plain women like this then

 

https://twitter.com/heightismwatch

 

and you said short men have to "make up for" being short does that mean for women to be attracted to a short man he has to be some amazing dynamic personality theyve never seen before where you'll date a tall man who doesnt stand out just because hes tall?

Edited April 11, 2013 by PJKino

[Content]

Let me know when hundreds of men wish death on plain women like this then

 

https://twitter.com/heightismwatch

 

and you said short men have to "make up for" being short does that mean for women to be attracted to a short man he has to be some amazing dynamic personality theyve never seen before where you'll date a tall man who doesnt stand out just because hes tall?

 

Dont take what people say on here as gospel i never had to "make up" for my lack of height ive had women interested in me at first site whove flirted with me and ones i had to work for which you have to put in work aka approach and flirt as a man wheter you're a short or tall if you want results.

[Els]

This is what happens when political correctness drifts into the dating realm. Suddenly we are not allowed to follow our own feelings of attractiveness. Men are shallow if they go after girls they find to be gorgeous, so are we supposed to sacrifice some of our happiness to find girls we are not attracted to? Is that what you want? I can assure you, the relationship quality will suffer if a man is not attracted to his woman.

 

Anyone should absolutely go for people they are interested in, and not those whom they are not. Be it tall guys, thin women, rich guys, big-breasted women, gorgeous girls, suave men, blondes, ambition, age, race, whatever.

 

This does not mean that we can't call someone shallow when they overemphasize one point above the entirety of a human being. A woman who will not consider anyone who makes less than $200k a year is shallow. A man who will not consider anyone who has less than C-cup breasts is shallow. They may not be able to 'help' it, and they certainly shouldn't just settle for people they're not interested in, but they are shallow.

 

Also, if I haven't said it already, I very much dislike grouping of preferences based on gender. Something new, please.

[PJKino]

Anyone should absolutely go for people they are interested in, and not those whom they are not. Be it tall guys, thin women, rich guys, big-breasted women, gorgeous girls, suave men, blondes, ambition, age, race, whatever.

 

This does not mean that we can't call someone shallow when they overemphasize one point above the entirety of a human being. A woman who will not consider anyone who makes less than $200k a year is shallow. A man who will not consider anyone who has less than C-cup breasts is shallow. They may not be able to 'help' it, and they certainly shouldn't just settle for people they're not interested in, but they are shallow.

 

Also, if I haven't said it already, I very much dislike grouping of preferences based on gender. Something new, please.

 

Are women who demand tall men shallow also?

[Els]

Are women who demand tall men shallow also?

 

If, as per my examples, she will not consider any man who is not tall, yes.

 

You wanna start your own height thread? This is getting old.

[ltjg45]

Are women who demand tall men shallow also?

 

Yes.

 

If males who asks for no less than a C-Cup breasts is shallow, I don't see why women who wants only tall men is any exception.

[PJKino]

If, as per my examples, she will not consider any man who is not tall, yes.

 

You wanna start your own height thread? This is getting old.

 

No i dont want to bother you since every thread or post should cater to what you find interestign or dont

[Els]

No i dont want to bother you since every thread or post should cater to what you find interestign or dont

 

Last I checked, I did not make this thread's title.

[SteveC80]

This is what happens when political correctness drifts into the dating realm. Suddenly we are not allowed to follow our own feelings of attractiveness. Men are shallow if they go after girls they find to be gorgeous, so are we supposed to sacrifice some of our happiness to find girls we are not attracted to? Is that what you want? I can assure you, the relationship quality will suffer if a man is not attracted to his woman.

 

I agree the only people who complain about shallow people are unattractive people who cant get people they're attracted to.

[A O]

So not only are men shallow, but feel entitled to it?

It is shallow to think that a preference is shallow, as such, you're as entitled to your shallowness as much as anyone else is.

 

"ohhh honey, your looks are more important to me than your personality

For the overwhelming majority of people this is true, that is both men and hard to believe and oft rarely spoken about - women too. Why are there so many bitter guys around, it is because of viewpoints like this that create an illusion that women aren't into looks anywhere near as much as men are. Well, well, well, ain't that a crock of dung!

 

It is all about looks for everyone - absolutely everyone! And for those that think otherwise, you just haven't come across a guy or a gal who possesses all the great personality and behavioral traits that - rocks your world - wrapped in a very handsome or beautiful physical package to boot. That girl/guy you dig because of their personality, you'll quickly have second thoughts about if a similar, but altogether more physically attractive soul enters your world.

 

Bottom line folks - looks are at the top of everyone's list of preferences - don't believe anyone who thinks differently and don't concern yourself with those that have a rather simplistic (shallow) view of this all-important dynamic.

 

you want to think this way? Fine, but then dont bitch when women like money.

Bitch away to your hearts content guys. Why? Because unlike looks (which is a level playing field for both sexes) the financial resources of women are of less interest to men as they are the other way around, thus we have an uneven playing field that occasionally lends rise to the odd crappy situation developing. Emphasis on occasionally.

[man_in_the_box]

I agree the only people who complain about shallow people are unattractive people who cant get people they're attracted to.

 

Do you also believe average people put bags on their head when having sex?

[Content]

It is shallow to think that a preference is shallow, as such, you're as entitled to your shallowness as much as anyone else is.

 

For the overwhelming majority of people this is true, that is both men and hard to believe and oft rarely spoken about - women too. Why are there so many bitter guys around, it is because of viewpoints like this that create an illusion that women aren't into looks anywhere near as much as men are. Well, well, well, ain't that a crock of dung!

 

It is all about looks for everyone - absolutely everyone! And for those that think otherwise, you just haven't come across a guy or a gal who possesses all the great personality and behavioral traits that - rocks your world - wrapped in a very handsome or beautiful physical package to boot. That girl/guy you dig because of their personality, you'll quickly have second thoughts about if a similar, but altogether more physically attractive soul enters your world.

 

Bottom line folks - looks are at the top of everyone's list of preferences - don't believe anyone who thinks differently and don't concern yourself with those that have a rather simplistic (shallow) view of this all-important dynamic.

 

Bitch away to your hearts content guys. Why? Because unlike looks (which is a level playing field for both sexes) the financial resources of women are of less interest to men as they are the other way around, thus we have an uneven playing field that occasionally lends rise to the odd crappy situation developing. Emphasis on occasionally.

 

 

I dont disagree that looks play apart and its what initially draws you to somebody but how do average and less then average people all over find people if its mostly about looks for everyone?

[A O]

I dont disagree that looks play apart and its what initially draws you to somebody but how do average and less then average people all over find people if its mostly about looks for everyone?

Most people in this world understand their attractiveness level so to speak. Unless you have something extra special that sets you apart from the crowd, then most people aim for someone within their bounds. I reckon I'm above average but that still doesn't mean I can get anything that moves. I ain't that stupid and I believe that most people (certainly outside of message board land) think/act like I do. Long story short is that everything seems to work itself out in the attractiveness stakes for most people but nonetheless, people do tend to underestimate the importance of looks especially when said looks come with all the attractive personality and behavioral traits that some deem to be of most importance. How wrong they are when both worlds combine.

[reaver]

I get rated as an 8 by men. I can get goodlooking men but they usually lack in character or personality

 

I am not shallow. Sorry, A O. I dont fit your assumption.

 

I tend to go for personality over looks. I tend to like smart, funny guys. A guy who shares my silliness, makes me laugh and talks about/is interested in many different things will win my heart over. Out of my 5 relationships, only 1 was a guy where people constantly remarked on how cute he was when they met him. One. I was attracted to all of them however

 

Personality will make up for looks with me. Looks will not make up for lack of personality however.

 

Not shallow.

 

Not everyone is shallow... Why is this so hard for people to believe?

 

Im also financially on my own too. So its not like Im a golddigger either.

 

Disenchanted is right though, a woman going for a guys money is seen as shallow, while a guy going for a girls looks is seen as "normal"

 

It is amazing to me how manipulative men are so they feel justified in their selfishness yet bash women who do the same thing.

If you focus primarily on a girls looks, fine. Im not saying dont do that because it wont make you happy if you dont do it. But then in the next post dont bash a woman for liking a guys money.

 

EDIT: A girl who only goes for tall guys is shallow so I agree with PKino.

 

I know alot of women that date short men though...guess what they usually have? Personality

Edited April 12, 2013 by reaver

[A O]

I tend to go for personality over looks. I tend to like smart, funny guys.

Many people are like this until they come across someone with smarts and personality wrapped within an attractive physical package. This is when the attractive physical package with aforementioned admired attributes trumps the less physically attractive but equally attributed person. Thus we're back to everything being about looks again. You want to know why your thinking and those with similar beliefs to yours are shallow, there's the reason - none of you tend to think too deeply about this subject. Y'all caught up in one tiny aspect of a much bigger equation. It is not only about looks verses other attributes. This is "also" about what transpires when admired attributes wrapped within an average or so body crosses paths with admired attributes wrapped within an attractive body. What transpires then is that the attractive physical package with all the trimmings supersedes the ordinary package with all the trimmings. Again, back to square one - looks first and foremost.

 

It is nature, it is natural to be attracted by looks first and foremost. We all do it (whether we realize it or not). Shaming nature, shaming this very natural process, well, that's just foolhardy.

 

EDIT: A girl who only goes for tall guys is shallow so I agree with PKino.

I don't find this shallow. This is not a level playing field because men are naturally, on average, taller than women. If it were a level playing field then sure, call it what you will but until that day comes, I for one can see why many women hold this preference. Most importantly here - people must be free (and usually are) to choose what best suits them - we are after all, responsible for our own happiness.

[PJKino]

olhardy.

 

I don't find this shallow. This is not a level playing field because men are naturally, on average, taller than women. If it were a level playing field then sure, call it what you will but until that day comes, I for one can see why many women hold this preference. Most importantly here - people must be free (and usually are) to choose what best suits them - we are after all, responsible for our own happiness.

 

Well of course i can see why a women would want a man taller then her but it doesnt end there most women want a man to be taller then the average man as well not just her.

[man_in_the_box]

And most men probably want an above average girl (note that does not mean they are actually going to hold out for this). Same thing as the women and tall/rich/muscled men, they can desire it all they want but they simply cannot all have it. It all works out in the end although some of us might be better or worse in accepting the cards we've been dealt. No big deal - the earth keeps spinning.

[xxoo]

Human attraction is complex, and we humans try to oversimplify it in order to understand it. All this shallow stuff matters less when you get to know someone and add in personal chemistry anyway. You could meet someone who ticks off all your boxes-- and end up feeling no lasting connection at all.

 

On the flip side, most fall hopelessly in love with someone who isn't perfect on paper