Perverts and Biology

[TigerCub]

In my demographic, predominantly rural, the young folks typically were married and had families by the time most city kids got out of college. So, if one missed out on that first round, it was hard to find any single women outside of the teenage group. Reflecting upon my social circle, a friend's wife (with her second H now) had her first child at 18. My best friend had two daughters by the time he was 20 and was married at 17. He's been on his second M for nearly 30 years and is a great grandfather. I noted a spate of opportunities in my early 30's due to first M's ending but still, comparatively, I can see how a teenage girl would have been preferable; no marriage and divorce baggage; generally no children. I dated a lot of divorced single mothers and it was some pretty tough going. Not being 'perverted' enough, I never really considered teenagers as potential dating partners. That was socialization.

 

I was reminded of that recently, when confronted by two very attractive teenage daughters of a tenant. I don't view them as peer sexual/romantic creatures, though I can still perceive them as attractive. They're kids. A young mind to mold; a young body to protect and nurture. Different strokes I guess.

that part in bold made me laugh...

 

I totally get what you're saying.

My mom got married at 18 and had her first kid at 19.

Different country, different time. It was completely normal. My dad was 30.

[TigerCub]

I'd like to answer this question too.

The only times i had 'ew' moments about sexual attraction were these :

- i saw a hot girl on the bus, admired her [physically] and heard her mother talking to her about her upcoming 13th b-day; she looked like a college girl and bus line was frequented by them ... i felt sorry for her mom, her dad and herself

- sometimes, i see on the street this type of girl, pre-HS but quite close to it, in tights, in clothes that show off her curves, usually with a lot of skin involved too ... and they have curves [breasts, butt, waist]; on one side i'm attracted to physical characteristics [i also like mignones], and on another side i'm absolutely disgusted by the ideea of her being a sexual being, it's hard to describe but this duality leaves me very confused and sick

 

I totally get what you're saying.

It's natural to have an involuntary attraction to the maturing figure with all it's womanly traits, but on the other hand it's "natural" to feel disgusted at finding someone so young attractive and I can see how that would be very conflicting.

 

Other than that, in this country girls are legal at 16, and untill recently guys had to wait for 18 [they became legal at 16 too, just last yr].

They can also marry at 16 without permission from parents, and parents are legally obligated to support them up to 26yrs old.

They allowed girls to marry younger originally because of the gypsy minority, in their society a girl marries at 12-13 sometimes, and they lowered the age for guys too, for that very same reason.

 

I've never considered them a prospect unless out of HS.

But here's a nice little exception.

In my class there's a girl that went back to HS in this country at 18 [was abroad and did HS there but it's not recognized here], graduated at 20, and is in first yr of college at 21.

If she had a bf in HS, and he was in HS too but of normal age, before the new law came into effect on the 1st of October 2012, it meant that she would have comitted statutory rape if she had sex with him.

Yeah like that part in bold is exactly what I'm saying about the arbitrary # of what is deemed to be the magical age.

 

Thanks so much for your input on this Radu, always appreciated

[TigerCub]

This is one of those unspoken things, but it does count.

 

Many of my past relationships have been with girls who had baggage.

I'm quite frankly sick of baggage, and i don't plan on having another's.

 

I envy the guys who are 25 [i'll most likely be 31-32 before i'm ready for a serious relationship], because they can have access to the 18-20yr olds who are mature [not that many] and good ppl without baggage.

My cousin also wasted 2-3 perfect LTR's because he didn't want to settle down yet, and at 35, married a girl 10yrs younger than him in what was partially desperation for settling down. He is now divorced, after only a few yrs, she just used him as a breeding bull with a paycheck.

His rules, his wants and his clarity all went out the freaking window because he wanted to settle down and grabbed the first thing that seemed borderline ok.

 

I get what you guys are saying, but I just gotta admit that even in my teens I had baggage and issues - so it's not always the case....

 

just sayin.....

[carhill]

An additional factor, though perhaps less prevalent now, was the propensity for teenage girls to 'get with' an older man early, due to such older men being more financially stable and established, to escape abuse/neglect/molestation at home. Thus, in addition to their issues from home, should that M/LTR fail, they bring the confluence of those issues forward, in addition to any children they may have bore in the interim.

 

These examples form the basis for many of the anecdotes which I share where the woman states she 'can't be alone'. It starts with trauma in childhood and compounds over time, absent meaningful introspection and/or psychological help. Depending on where one encounters them in the timeline, one's experiences will vary. For lack of a better phrase, teenage girls are 'less complicated' in general, though they surely do have their own age-appropriate and individual issues. Beyond the obvious 'beauty of youth', some men see real or perceived 'less complicated' as attractive.

[Radu]

Should have clarified, i meant by that a string of broken relationships, and maybe a kid or two in tow; which is what i might be looking at.

 

I've dealt with :

- all men are pigs baggage

- dead-end job with nowhere in sight after college so i might as well get plastered

- im 25, and a granny by club standards but i still am ok to drink myself to death

- i need to find myself, i'm 24 and in doing so, i think i'll totally humiliate you for my gf's entertainment

 

I think some ppl fix their baggage with age, and the requirements of life.

Others want their guys to fix their baggage for them and get angry at them for not doing so.

And some others can't figure out what's wrong with them and it's baggage after baggage.

 

PS: It was obvious i kept attracting the wrong kind of woman.

[Radu]

An additional factor, though perhaps less prevalent now, was the propensity for teenage girls to 'get with' an older man early, due to such older men being more financially stable and established, to escape abuse/neglect/molestation at home. Thus, in addition to their issues from home, should that M/LTR fail, they bring the confluence of those issues forward, in addition to any children they may have bore in the interim.

 

These examples form the basis for many of the anecdotes which I share where the woman states she 'can't be alone'. It starts with trauma in childhood and compounds over time, absent meaningful introspection and/or psychological help. Depending on where one encounters them in the timeline, one's experiences will vary. For lack of a better phrase, teenage girls are 'less complicated' in general, though they surely do have their own age-appropriate and individual issues. Beyond the obvious 'beauty of youth', some men see real or perceived 'less complicated' as attractive.

 

This pretty much still goes on.

 

In some parts of this country, if you are a 18-19yr old girl and you are don't have a wedding planned, you are slut/granny/waiting too long [doesn't help that some girls -not many-, left abroad to work in the red light district in Amsterdam or other such places].

The pressure can be quite immense, to the point where parents might remove support if you don't get with the program and do as they ask.

 

When i was on another forum, i was talking often with this girl who was of this age, and basically she wanted to study psychology [she had a knack for it], but her parents [her dad especially] and her grandparents wanted her to get married pronto. She was gay and in a rural area so she didn't know how to cover it better.

With men, this kind of pressure only starts when you approach 30.

 

Come to think of it, i know this girl who is only 2yrs older than me; her mom hated her guts, and her dad was apathetic, so she went to him in Italy.

In Italy she met a guy who is a full blown BPD, and she hooked up with him [at 16].

Now, at 32, she has 2 kids, oldest just starting HS, and she did admit that she basically just ran from home, because her mom's bf played around with her and her mom too her bf's side.

[TigerCub]

This pretty much still goes on.

 

In some parts of this country, if you are a 18-19yr old girl and you are don't have a wedding planned, you are slut/granny/waiting too long [doesn't help that some girls -not many-, left abroad to work in the red light district in Amsterdam or other such places].

The pressure can be quite immense, to the point where parents might remove support if you don't get with the program and do as they ask.

 

When i was on another forum, i was talking often with this girl who was of this age, and basically she wanted to study psychology [she had a knack for it], but her parents [her dad especially] and her grandparents wanted her to get married pronto. She was gay and in a rural area so she didn't know how to cover it better.

With men, this kind of pressure only starts when you approach 30.

 

Come to think of it, i know this girl who is only 2yrs older than me; her mom hated her guts, and her dad was apathetic, so she went to him in Italy.

In Italy she met a guy who is a full blown BPD, and she hooked up with him [at 16].

Now, at 32, she has 2 kids, oldest just starting HS, and she did admit that she basically just ran from home, because her mom's bf played around with her and her mom too her bf's side.

 

That is so sad.

Some people should never have been parents!!!

 

I agree that some cultures have a view that women should marry young (in their late teens)

and I even get hints of this from my mom, she's always asking when I'm gonna get married to my boyfriend because "It's nice to be a young bride".

Uhmmm....I'm 32. I'm well past my mom's definition of "young" but I know that most people in general think that women should take advantage of their "prime" and land a man while they are hot and young.

[SincereOnlineGuy]

I didn't want to tj another thread. But basically 1 guy was saying how he's 25 and went on a date with a 17 year old (who apparently also sent him "sexy" pics).

 

Another poster replied with

"You accepted sexy pics from a 16/17 year old girl when you were 24/25. You are perverted. Thats way too young pal. You got a problem. Go out with another girl who is YOUR AGE"

 

 

My question is:

Does the guy really have "a problem"?

 

 

 

No, of course he doesn't have a "problem" (unless its a legal one, where he resides).

 

If, however, "sexy pics" equates to nude photos of someone under 18, then he will clearly have a "(legal) problem" should he possess them or send them elsewhere.

 

A study in the mid-1990's asked men for the age in a female partner they most preferred, and the answers were assembled into the following equation:

 

"half his own age plus seven years" (to allow for 89-year-olds and 30-year-olds to be weighted/represented equally in the results).

 

 

The local laws determine the answer in the specific case you cite.

 

The idiots who surround the person in this society either respect the local laws or they don't....

[veggirl]

Well there are teenage boys who are 17 years old and look like grown men and are objectively attractive. I can recognize that and still understand that they are fking 17 yrs old and so NO I am not sexually attracted to them. So yeah I think a man of 25 should differentiate between "she is good looking" and "I wanna fk her" when it comes to a teenaged high school girl.

[angie2443]

 

My question is:

Does the guy really have "a problem"?

I mean it's not like she's a prepubescent girl. She's a sexually mature person. It's just that we have societal laws and norms that say that unless a person is over a certain age - then it is wrong.

 

 

I would say it's more likely that the girl is going to have a problem if she gets with him. He would do fine. For her, this would most likely not be an equal relationship.

 

I get what you're saying about the biology thing. I think we all know that young women, and young men for that matter, are at the peak of their physical attractiveness. This peak is somewhere in the teens to early twenties. I don't think men, or women, are thought of as pervs for recognizing the attractiveness in an attractive teen. It becomes very differant, though, when they act on it, or stare too long, etc.

 

It used to be that a girl would reach 13 and she'd be married off. That was it for her. She'd basically live out her life having lots of children and tending to the house. She'd have little rights and she'd have to defer to her husband on most everything. Now, things are supposed to be more equal. A girl can have the chance to become educated, establish something for herself, and gain life experience that will help her establish equal footing in a serious relationship. By the way, there is something magical about the 25 year mark- actually, it can be around 24 to 26, but it's all in the same range. At this point, the brain does mature fully and a person has lived several years as an adult. There is a reason why people don't make as much of a fuss when a 25 year old dates a 35 year old. In this case, both people have been adults for some years. They are on more equal footing. In the case of the 17 year old and the 25 year old, the footing is less equal.

[USMCHokie]

beside how can a healthy person have that desire???????????????/

 

Because physiologically, there generally seems to be little difference between a 17/18 year old and a 25 year old. Some may say that the body of the teenager is more desirable...

[EasyHeart]

1. It is perfectly normal for men of any age to be attracted to teenage girls. Most women peak physically in their late teens-early twenties, so of course men are going to be sexually attracted to them. It's only if men AREN'T attracted to pretty teenage girls that they have a problem.

 

2. It is not normal for adult men to be romantically attracted to teenage girls. The quickest remedy for any man who is attracted to a 16 year old is to talk to her. If you find yourself fantasizing about about living happily ever after with her, there is something wrong with you. If you find yourself reminding her to brush her teeth and wanting to help her with her algebra, then you're normal.

 

3. The reason we protect teenage girls from older men is the differences in (a) their sexual activity level and (b) their ability to perceive consequences. Most parents assume (and hope) their 16 year old daughter is not sexually active, and that the 22 year old college kid down the street is. That's why is a 16 year old comes home with a 22 year old guy, the usual reaction is to pull down a shotgun and give him 30 seconds to get out of the house. If a 26 year old daughter comes home with a 32 year old boyfriend, the usual reaction is "Oh that's nice".

 

4. There's certainly a cultural issue nowadays. When I was a teenager, the sexiest clothes teenage girls wore was a pair of tight blue jeans, or maybe some "daisy dukes". Nowadays, teenage girls are encouraged (often by their mothers!) to dress like strippers. I know I must be getting old because it creeps me out. But I think it's pretty stupid to dress your daughter like a whore and then accuse men of being perverts for being attracted to her.

 

5. That being said, the desire for older women to shame men is pretty much limitless. I've been told that it is "creepy" and "disgusting" for me to date women in their early 40s. (I'm 50). Even back in my thirties, I remember women criticizing me for dating women in their 20s. The sole test that women use is apparently "It is perverted for any man to date a woman who is younger than me".

 

6. Most men are trained pretty early in life that if they are to have any chance at a LTR, they must ALWAYS lie to women. The one thing women hate more than anything is honesty. Especially any woman who says "Honesty is the most important thing to me". What she really means is "You must always tell me what I want to hear, or I will make your life a living hell". And one of the most important things we learn is that we must never, never admit that anyone younger or prettier than our girlfriends is attractive. The only socially acceptable answer to "Do you think teenage girls are attractive?" is "Oh God, NO!!! That's disgusting!!!" Women can't grasp the simple and basic idea that a man can be sexually attracted to a woman and not want to date her or even have sex with her.

[TigerCub]

No, of course he doesn't have a "problem" (unless its a legal one, where he resides).

 

If, however, "sexy pics" equates to nude photos of someone under 18, then he will clearly have a "(legal) problem" should he possess them or send them elsewhere.

 

A study in the mid-1990's asked men for the age in a female partner they most preferred, and the answers were assembled into the following equation:

 

"half his own age plus seven years" (to allow for 89-year-olds and 30-year-olds to be weighted/represented equally in the results).

 

 

The local laws determine the answer in the specific case you cite.

 

The idiots who surround the person in this society either respect the local laws or they don't....

 

I thought 'You have a problem' was more like saying 'you're sick and you need help'. I didn't think it was meant a problem legally. But I can't be sure what the person meant anyways.

 

Legally speaking, yeah I definitely agree with you that him being in possession of an under aged girl's pics is illegal. I can definitely agree with that.

 

But him being attracted to a 17 year old isn't sick IMO because in 1 year she will hit that magical number that seems very arbitrary and then everything will be ok.

 

I think that my question is about the 18. How did people come up with that? If the brain doesn't fully form until 25 shouldn't the age be 25 then - 18 seems really arbitrary and the notion that something is completely wrong and perverted for a person who is 6 months shy of 18 is totally fine when they turn 18.

 

It just seems odd.

 

Thanks so much for your reply.

Oh and I definitely agree, if there are laws, people should definitely abide by them, even if how that law was decided on is unclear.

 

Thanks again

[TigerCub]

Well there are teenage boys who are 17 years old and look like grown men and are objectively attractive. I can recognize that and still understand that they are fking 17 yrs old and so NO I am not sexually attracted to them. So yeah I think a man of 25 should differentiate between "she is good looking" and "I wanna fk her" when it comes to a teenaged high school girl.

 

Thanks Veggirl for your take on it.

 

I will admit that I personally feel the same way when it comes to being attracted to someone and then realizing they are young. It would just be an automatic turn off and I wouldn't be attracted to them in a sexual way.

 

As for the 25 year old man who thought a girl is "good looking" can he really automatically separate the "I want to **** her" desire?

 

I guess to me, it would all boil down to if he acts out on it or not.

 

But again my question is about the 18 year mark

it's disgusting to have desire for a 17 year old

but when they turn 18 it's totally fine and normal?

[TigerCub]

I would say it's more likely that the girl is going to have a problem if she gets with him. He would do fine. For her, this would most likely not be an equal relationship.

Totally agree with that.

 

I get what you're saying about the biology thing. I think we all know that young women, and young men for that matter, are at the peak of their physical attractiveness. This peak is somewhere in the teens to early twenties. I don't think men, or women, are thought of as pervs for recognizing the attractiveness in an attractive teen. It becomes very differant, though, when they act on it, or stare too long, etc.

 

It used to be that a girl would reach 13 and she'd be married off. That was it for her. She'd basically live out her life having lots of children and tending to the house. She'd have little rights and she'd have to defer to her husband on most everything. Now, things are supposed to be more equal. A girl can have the chance to become educated, establish something for herself, and gain life experience that will help her establish equal footing in a serious relationship. By the way, there is something magical about the 25 year mark- actually, it can be around 24 to 26, but it's all in the same range. At this point, the brain does mature fully and a person has lived several years as an adult. There is a reason why people don't make as much of a fuss when a 25 year old dates a 35 year old. In this case, both people have been adults for some years. They are on more equal footing. In the case of the 17 year old and the 25 year old, the footing is less equal.

 

Yeah there is something magical about 25. I get that but not 18 so why is 18 the magical age that separates the perverts from the normals?

[TigerCub]

i think you are a pedophile 2.

and why open a new topic about a other topic?

why not reply this post in there?

Pedophile huh, for asking a question about biology and social rules. Yeah...ok

 

Why did I start a new topic? Because that wasn't the issue discussed in the OP and I didn't want to steer the conversation in a direction he didn't intend to talk about.

It's called having forum etiquette, but I'm not at all surprised that you wouldn't know what that is.

 

if you are older you shore are guilty if you proceed if a 17 years old approach you.

their brain are not fully grown jet to think about all consequences.

but you as a grown do have the ability to think further.

 

and i think there are not many 16/17 years old that are interested in older people.

i think its often the older people that approach them.

 

thats why im happy that the law condemn you and send you to jail if you touch a underage person . (younger then 18).

beside how can a healthy person have that desire???????????????/

 

I don't think YOUR brain is fully grown yet.

So I would conclude that maybe you're under 25. Maybe 17 and therefore, ya know just to be safe, it would probably be best for you to stay out of this thread, cuz it talks about grown topics and there is a slight mention of sex and I would never want to corrupt and under aged person.

 

So yeah, thanks for your input.

Come back when you're of age.

[TigerCub]

1. It is perfectly normal for men of any age to be attracted to teenage girls. Most women peak physically in their late teens-early twenties, so of course men are going to be sexually attracted to them. It's only if men AREN'T attracted to pretty teenage girls that they have a problem.

 

2. It is not normal for adult men to be romantically attracted to teenage girls. The quickest remedy for any man who is attracted to a 16 year old is to talk to her. If you find yourself fantasizing about about living happily ever after with her, there is something wrong with you. If you find yourself reminding her to brush her teeth and wanting to help her with her algebra, then you're normal.

 

3. The reason we protect teenage girls from older men is the differences in (a) their sexual activity level and (b) their ability to perceive consequences. Most parents assume (and hope) their 16 year old daughter is not sexually active, and that the 22 year old college kid down the street is. That's why is a 16 year old comes home with a 22 year old guy, the usual reaction is to pull down a shotgun and give him 30 seconds to get out of the house. If a 26 year old daughter comes home with a 32 year old boyfriend, the usual reaction is "Oh that's nice".

 

4. There's certainly a cultural issue nowadays. When I was a teenager, the sexiest clothes teenage girls wore was a pair of tight blue jeans, or maybe some "daisy dukes". Nowadays, teenage girls are encouraged (often by their mothers!) to dress like strippers. I know I must be getting old because it creeps me out. But I think it's pretty stupid to dress your daughter like a whore and then accuse men of being perverts for being attracted to her.

 

5. That being said, the desire for older women to shame men is pretty much limitless. I've been told that it is "creepy" and "disgusting" for me to date women in their early 40s. (I'm 50). Even back in my thirties, I remember women criticizing me for dating women in their 20s. The sole test that women use is apparently "It is perverted for any man to date a woman who is younger than me".

 

6. Most men are trained pretty early in life that if they are to have any chance at a LTR, they must ALWAYS lie to women. The one thing women hate more than anything is honesty. Especially any woman who says "Honesty is the most important thing to me". What she really means is "You must always tell me what I want to hear, or I will make your life a living hell". And one of the most important things we learn is that we must never, never admit that anyone younger or prettier than our girlfriends is attractive. The only socially acceptable answer to "Do you think teenage girls are attractive?" is "Oh God, NO!!! That's disgusting!!!" Women can't grasp the simple and basic idea that a man can be sexually attracted to a woman and not want to date her or even have sex with her.

 

 

Hey EasyHeart,

 

Thanks for putting so much thought into your reply.

 

I agree that it's normal to find someone attractive even if they are in their "teens" but I have to admit that just saying it makes me feel like it's wrong to. I dunno, I know that biologically it makes sense, but I think it is that conditioning that we all had that makes it seem wrong. Personally I've never been attracted to younger guys, I've always dated up, but as I said before I think that if I found someone attractive, then found out they were young, I would be instantly turned off because it would feel so "eeeww" they're young.

 

I also agree that depending on the age difference, someone that's grown and had life experiences wanting to date a teen is really off because I wouldn't think the intention is right and I think that the balance of power is totally off in relationships like that.

 

OMG you are so right about how girls dress nowadays. I feel like a granny when I see some girls that look like they are in their early 20s to find out that they are 15 or something. The way they dress is so not age appropriate. Not saying that grown women should look like whores, but when young teens do it, it's totally jail bait. It's gross.

 

Whoever told you that it's creepy to date an early 40 something lady when you are 50 is insane!!! What the hell is that about?

 

There was a coworker that retired a few years ago. He was single and 55 and when he did online dating, he was always looking for 30 something year olds. It's not creepy because a 30something woman knows what she wants and hopefully is grown enough and has enough experiences in life - so it wasn't creepy but I think it was the reason he stayed single.

 

So no - whoever told you that stuff was just a hater

 

So...Guys are taught to lie?

hehe, I always thought that guys sugar coat things and stuff, but my own bf isn't dumb enough to attempt to tell me that I'm the pretties woman in the world and that he's never fantasized about anyone else!... If he told me that, I would laugh in his face, call him a liar.

I'm sure that he doesn't volunteer things, but hmmmm, now I wonder what he lies about.....

[TigerCub]

I my be biased ( of course I am:laugh:) but I think my two teenage daughters are gorgeous,and so do lots of guys...

 

my youngest is 13, and my oldest is almost 15, and they both look older...

 

one day, when my oldest was ten or eleven, we were at the local pool and a guy asked her to go to the movies...she just thought of it as ' oh, he wants to see a movie and be friends"...I told her no, and told him she was just ten....he was mortified...i don't think i ever saw a guy turn as red as he did

 

she looks older than her age...she's almost six feet tall now,

 

my younger daughter and I were out for a walk one evening when she was twelve, and we passed some guys who were out on their patio drinking...they made some comment about he rear end, so I turned around and yelled at the " that's disgusting...she's only 12"...the one who mde the comment got a smack from his girlfriend and was told " when you sober up you are going to feel like such a ass.....le "

Damn!! that incident must have been so disturbing for a mother to hear stuff like that about your 12 year old baby. I totally get that.

 

there is no way either of them is ready emotionally for a sexual relationship...I'm not sure many girls or boys that age would be...

 

western society does tend to "hypersexualize" children, and blur the lines between child and adult...

Completely agree!

 

while I can understand a guy looking at a a girl and thinking "she's attractive" ( especially if her age is ambiguous) his decison to pursue a relationship with a minor would be another matter...

I agree that attraction is a biological thing.

I also agree that we live in a society with rule and laws and we should abide by them, I just question how certain laws like "age 18" came about.

[angie2443]

Totally agree with that.

 

 

 

Yeah there is something magical about 25. I get that but not 18 so why is 18 the magical age that separates the perverts from the normals?

 

Why is the drinking age 21? Why do children start kindergarden around age 5/6? Why is the price of chips at some stores 69 cents? They have to pick a number. If they didn't, the laws and social norms would be very confusing. I think 18 is a good age. This is when most finish high school and take on the responsibilities as an adult. A lot of learning takes place because of this. Again, I don't think the legal age thing is there because bieng attracted to teenagers is seen as perverted. I think it's because most of us know that the teenager needs a chance to grow more and experience life as a grownup (paying bills, making adult decisions and facing the consequences for those decisions, ect.) before bieng in a relationship with someone who has that much more experience. Another thing that someone else touched on- a 25 year old who is still into teens is showing a disturbing lack of mental and emotionally growth.

 

I wanted that I'm in the U.S. and the ages I mentioned are the ones I know here. I understand that differant countries have differant age limets and so on.

[angie2443]

5. That being said, the desire for older women to shame men is pretty much limitless. I've been told that it is "creepy" and "disgusting" for me to date women in their early 40s. (I'm 50). Even back in my thirties, I remember women criticizing me for dating women in their 20s. The sole test that women use is apparently "It is perverted for any man to date a woman who is younger than me".

 

.

 

I'm finding this hard to believe. Obviously, I don't know if you were told that or not, but I have never heard a 50 year old man called creepy for bieng with a 40 something year old women.

[TheBigQuestion]

I'm finding this hard to believe. Obviously, I don't know if you were told that or not, but I have never heard a 50 year old man called creepy for bieng with a 40 something year old women.

 

The overall phenomenon he's describing is accurate. Hell, LoveShack is littered with posters who are extremely resentful of men being attracted to women significantly younger than they are. There have been threads where men in their late 30s have talked about dating women in their early-to-mid twenties who have been raked over coals by said posters. They've been described as "shallow," "creepy," and sometimes much worse. It's utterly ridiculous. Men will stop prioritizing women's youth when y'all stop prioritizing my height, shoulder broadness, and the amount of money in my wallet.

[TigerCub]

The overall phenomenon he's describing is accurate. Hell, LoveShack is littered with posters who are extremely resentful of men being attracted to women significantly younger than they are. There have been threads where men in their late 30s have talked about dating women in their early-to-mid twenties who have been raked over coals by said posters. They've been described as "shallow," "creepy," and sometimes much worse. It's utterly ridiculous. Men will stop prioritizing women's youth when y'all stop prioritizing my height, shoulder broadness, and the amount of money in my wallet.

 

NEVER!!!!!

 

hehe kidding, I don't care about height or shoulder broadness

 

haha :laugh:

[angie2443]

The overall phenomenon he's describing is accurate. Hell, LoveShack is littered with posters who are extremely resentful of men being attracted to women significantly younger than they are. There have been threads where men in their late 30s have talked about dating women in their early-to-mid twenties who have been raked over coals by said posters. They've been described as "shallow," "creepy," and sometimes much worse. It's utterly ridiculous. Men will stop prioritizing women's youth when y'all stop prioritizing my height, shoulder broadness, and the amount of money in my wallet.

 

I could care less about your height and everything else. You sound angry. I have not seen a thread here calling a man creepy for wanting someone over 25. If there are threads that attack men for this, they are relatively rare. I've seen threads where older men state that it's fine to date very young women, and that older women are just bitter and that's why they have issues with it. In these threads women come to defend themselves from the attack. Why wouldn't they? There are also threads in which a young girl is bieng hit on by a much older guy and many jump in to warn her that is more often than not an unhealthy situation. I'm in that group. As far as that goes, I dated much older men when I was very young for unhealthy reasons, and I can say from experience and observation that the age differance dynamic is not healthy. Older men know to target girls who have father issues, self esteem issues or other problems.

[TheBigQuestion]

I could care less about your height and everything else. You sound angry. I have not seen a thread here calling a man creepy for wanting someone over 25. If there are threads that attack men for this, they are relatively rare. I've seen threads where older men state that it's fine to date very young women, and that older women are just bitter and that's why they have issues with it. In these threads women come to defend themselves from the attack. Why wouldn't they? There are also threads in which a young girl is bieng hit on by a much older guy and many jump in to warn her that is more often than not an unhealthy situation. I'm in that group. As far as that goes, I dated much older men when I was very young for unhealthy reasons, and I can say from experience and observation that the age differance dynamic is not healthy. Older men know to target girls who have father issues, self esteem issues or other problems.

 

You obviously don't read this board enough if you think women criticizing men for liking younger women is a rare occurrence. True, it tends to come in waves and isn't always obvious, but there is a palpable resentment among a vocal minority of female posters on LS of men who even dare discuss being involved with someone (in whatever arrangement they prefer) significantly younger than they. And regardless of what you might think, this resentment IS primarily fueled by their insecurities, even though they might express it in the way you claim to do (that is, as coming to the aid of the hapless early-20 something woman, as if most of them are truly that naive and innocent). Do you really think it's any coincidence that women who are secure in themselves aren't outraged by men dating women younger than they are? Pretty much every woman I've ever met who verbalizes any issue with the phenomenon is struggling with her own insecurities.

[TheBigQuestion]

NEVER!!!!!

 

hehe kidding, I don't care about height or shoulder broadness

 

haha :laugh:

 

I see what you did.