Author Noproblem Posted April 5, 2013 Author Posted April 5, 2013 We've stayed in touch through the years, but when she started seeing someone and it seemed a sure thing I stopped. The occasional fb birthday or holiday greeting notwithstanding, but otherwise I dont talk to her anymore. Last I talked to her was years ago and she was having a baby with the guy. I think you still care about her, such a sad story!
Author Noproblem Posted April 5, 2013 Author Posted April 5, 2013 My biggest lie: "I swear I'll never show the video to anybody." How old are, if you don't mind the question?
Woggle Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 When she looked me in the eye and told me she would never cheat. Biggest lie I told was when I met a woman in a bar that turned out to be a bit nuts and I told her lived in a town a half an hour from where I live. 1
AlexDP Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 As I stated previously, I'm 5'6.....but when I was more insecure about my height, I used to buy boots and stuff them. I was generally walking around at 5'10+ (I measured myself to make sure haha). It didn't really matter though. I stopped doing that after a while and did just as well.....but with much more comfort (my feet didn't hurt when I came home lol). You should talk to somedude. 1
TheGuard13 Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 The biggest lies are the ones you tell yourself, or ones that actually affect both parties. I lied to myself about my level of attraction to the woman I eventually married, told myself I cared about "inner beauty" above all else, and wasted a lot of time, energy and emotion for both of us because of it. My girlfriend lied about cheating on me a couple of times, and came clean 2 years later. She also lied to me about her feelings about sex and open relationships in particular, which is what essentially destroyed our marriage (after it was already mostly destroyed due to the prior self lie).
AKisBaked Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Biggest lie was from my ex who I asked her who she was talking to on her phone (text messaging) Like her friend's contact name was a girl's name but the response's and the way they communicated with each other was clearly not a girl. So I asked her who is this guy? and she gets defensive saying it's not and it's really a girl that she's talking to. She pretty much renamed the guy to girl's name so that I wouldn't find out that she's talking to him. The lie i had to tell my ex was I was hanging out with my parents but really I went out with friends which were girls. She was a control freak. Didn't want me to see or hang out with anyone except for her.....
RedRobin Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Biggest lie to told to me: "I love you" and "I hate you" Biggest lie I've told?? In dating? I lie about anything I'm not ready to tell someone. Especially people expecting instant intimacy. I'm not about to tell total strangers details about my life. If it is about something that is important to them, I find a discrete way to break up with them... politely of course, and with no fanfare. No harm done. I keep my secrets. They get to find someone else. ... That said, I would share important details about my life before we had sex though. I'd expect them to do the same for me.
mortensorchid Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 THe biggest lie I have ever been told is when someone lied about their age to me. He told me he was 30, but he was actually 40. A guy I met online. Go figure. Along the same lines, I met a guy (during my wilder days) and traveled to see him in his city. The next day he told me he had lied about his age, he said that he was 31 when I met him. I asked how old he actually was, he was 32. His birthday was the week before and wasn't used to telling others about his age. Then instead of telling a lie, I performed the biggest lie of my life with him : I turned cold on him, walked away, and ignored his calls for the next week. It felt good to do so, to give a douchebag like him what he deserved.
Author Noproblem Posted April 6, 2013 Author Posted April 6, 2013 I dont mind. Im 30. Why do you ask? So I would know that age doesn't matter when it comes to doing what's wrong or right.
dasein Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 Biggest lie told by me? "I'm moving soon and don't want a relationship going on," I was moving, but was interested in someone else. Biggest lie told to me or most anyone? Well of course that's going to be "I love you." The big ones tend to come in webs of humongous lies from a cheater, and have been cheated on several times, so there's a whole string of possibilities. One quizzed me on some music and books... turned out it was the OM's music and books and she used my knowledge to try to impress him. I found that one particularly hurtful. 1
Author Noproblem Posted April 6, 2013 Author Posted April 6, 2013 Biggest lie told by me? "I'm moving soon and don't want a relationship going on," I was moving, but was interested in someone else. Biggest lie told to me or most anyone? Well of course that's going to be "I love you." The big ones tend to come in webs of humongous lies from a cheater, and have been cheated on several times, so there's a whole string of possibilities. One quizzed me on some music and books... turned out it was the OM's music and books and she used my knowledge to try to impress him. I found that one particularly hurtful. That's so low of her!
dasein Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 That's so low of her! It was bizarre how I found out too. He had the books and music on his OLD profile, and to the guy's credit, when he figured out what was going on, he told me about the cheating. He hadn't known I existed or vice versa, and the woman was pressing me for marriage! So she was lying to both of us. Yikes, bullet dodged. 1
Author Noproblem Posted April 6, 2013 Author Posted April 6, 2013 It was bizarre how I found out too. He had the books and music on his OLD profile, and to the guy's credit, when he figured out what was going on, he told me about the cheating. He hadn't known I existed or vice versa, and the woman was pressing me for marriage! So she was lying to both of us. Yikes, bullet dodged. Karma :bunny:
baRx Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 my biggest lie: i'm not entirely sure about that.. nothing's striking me. I mean, relationship wise or anything. I tend to be honest at all times when it comes to this kind of stuff because I don't like game-playing or anything like that. of course i've told a bunch of stupid lies as a kid, like the "no i'm not high" lie. the "we just hung around at my buddy's house" when really we were in the city having a blast. biggest lie told to me: this is actually tough. just about everyone in my life has lied to me. there's the issue with a friend of mine who withheld money owed to me, lying saying he never got it when he actually had it but was spending it. (this was 7 years ago, and he's currently doing it as we speak about another money issue >.< ) then there's the 'relationship' type lies. a girl i adored would constantly lie to me about guys in her life, what was going on & all that crap. back in 2009 she lied to me about some guy, i found out and got upset over it. 3 years later she told me she was engaged to him, then came back 6 weeks later saying it wasn't true. i don't know. i know there was something going on between them, but she just couldn't ever tell me what the whole truth was. eventually, we finally (after 2 years of my trying to do so) cut contact. its been 3 months since ive last heard from her and i'm enjoying the hell out of it ^_^. 1
El Brujo Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 Everybody lies (Not me ) No, seriously everybody lies, but there are ordinary lies and there are big liessssss, so my question is: What is the biggest lie a girl\guy lied to you when you were dating each other ? And I know how you people like to talk about other people being big liars and stuff , but let's face it everybody lies, so it's very possible that you have lied as well My next question is: What is the biggest lie you told a girl\guy you dated\are dating? I suck at lying. That's why I don't do it.
sillyanswer Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 What is the biggest lie a girl\guy lied to you when you were dating each other ? "I didn't sleep with him again."
Divasu Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 What is the biggest lie a girl\guy lied to you when you were dating each other?I was cheated on. What is the biggest lie you told a girl\guy you dated\are dating? Probably lies by omission (not disclosing personal information off the bat). Like, I don't come right out and say I was engaged to someone years ago, things like that. The reality is, everyone lies, at some point or another. Everyone lies differently and have different motives for doing it: Fear of harm: The easiest reason to understand why we lie is for self protection, including self deception, to prevent harm to ourselves. This harm can be either physical or mental. Fear of conflict: To some degree, we all fear having an argument. Fear of punishment: When growing up, how often did we lie about how well we did in school, or who started a fight? How often do we cover up our mistakes and transgressions? Fear of rejection: Sometimes, our insecurities are the foundation of why we lie to each other, because we want to be remain popular in our relationships. Typically, it is harmless boasting to make ourselves appear more admirable to other people. Fear of loss: This is usually the loss of personal objects, such as money or expensive valuables. Greed is the foundation for this reason and can be found in each of us. We often lie to make ourselves more desirable to other people too. Most common, people lie for fear of losing an opportunity to have sex. Other times, when our self esteem starts to decline, we even lie to ourselves as means to prevent loss of morale. Altruistic Reasons: We often lie to help our friends and loved ones. How often do we flattery someone just to make them feel better? This is the only selfless reason why we lie. Malice. 1
runningfar Posted April 6, 2013 Posted April 6, 2013 I can't think if a notable lie. I don't play games and put on a front and I am not a liar. I am sure I said, oh yeah that sounds fun! When it didn't. That I was told... After till death do you part,"I do." Ha ha ha I've not been lied to too terribly much. I tend to assume everyone is telling the truth even if its suspicious. If they aren't it's on them, not me.
Author Noproblem Posted April 7, 2013 Author Posted April 7, 2013 my biggest lie: i'm not entirely sure about that.. nothing's striking me. I mean, relationship wise or anything. I tend to be honest at all times when it comes to this kind of stuff because I don't like game-playing or anything like that. of course i've told a bunch of stupid lies as a kid, like the "no i'm not high" lie. the "we just hung around at my buddy's house" when really we were in the city having a blast. biggest lie told to me: this is actually tough. just about everyone in my life has lied to me. there's the issue with a friend of mine who withheld money owed to me, lying saying he never got it when he actually had it but was spending it. (this was 7 years ago, and he's currently doing it as we speak about another money issue >.< ) then there's the 'relationship' type lies. a girl i adored would constantly lie to me about guys in her life, what was going on & all that crap. back in 2009 she lied to me about some guy, i found out and got upset over it. 3 years later she told me she was engaged to him, then came back 6 weeks later saying it wasn't true. i don't know. i know there was something going on between them, but she just couldn't ever tell me what the whole truth was. eventually, we finally (after 2 years of my trying to do so) cut contact. its been 3 months since ive last heard from her and i'm enjoying the hell out of it ^_^. Well, I'm glad you are enjoying your life at the moment, dealing with liars is very stressful!
dasein Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 OP you never really answered your own questions. Spill! Sorry if I missed it.
zanzi Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 I was too scared to end it with someone I didn't love anymore because I had figured out what they were really like. So I just started to treat them badly until they left me. A harm which created a good in my opinion. I'm glad it ended when it did, earlier would have been better though. 1
KatZee Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Biggest lie I've ever been told: "I love you." Biggest lie I've ever told a partner? I don't lie. There is no point. I once withheld information from a boyfriend in college. I guess it was a lie of omission. I learned my lesson that day and never have I kept anything from a partner from that point forward. Never lie. You'll have less to remember if you just tell the truth.
RedRobin Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 A TED talk by a professional 'lie spotter'.... Fascinating... 3
Vogeltron Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 Only time I personally really lie in a relationship is when I am trying to get a girl to go out with me, mostly because I have more success getting a date and having a chance. Actually I have to admit I lie all the time trying to pump up a girl I am with about telling them how awesome they are and how beautiful I think they are etc. That they are the most beautiful person I have ever met etc. Then again even though it isn't true many times I wish it was. But I personally don't lie to women to try and sleep with them. I am a relationship person. I try to set things up for the long term. I guess I am hoping if I pump them up they will get excited and and get me going as well. I guess I am bad that way. But creating positive energy is even to feed off and easy to have people feed off, even if you have to stretch the truth just a bit. 1
dasein Posted April 7, 2013 Posted April 7, 2013 A TED talk by a professional 'lie spotter'.... Fascinating... Ugh, these TED talks popping up everywhere now. They resemble PBS infomercials more than anything, and there are some serious problems with this one. 1. It starts with a semantic misstatement. Lying itself does not require cooperation to take place. The process of deception requires cooperation of an audience, but not lying itself. A tree falls in the woods despite anyone being in range of hearing it. The reason this distinction is important is because viewing lying as a whole process including audience as opposed to the simple intentional statement of untruth, precludes useful analysis by muddling all the aspects of dishonesty, motive, intent, the falsehood itself, reliance, actual result, into one thing. 2. People may all lie, but the methodology suggesting people lie "5 times in any given conversation or interaction" or the ilk is suspect and in ,my professional experience with lying and liars, inaccurate. In other words, "I am willing to exaggerate the incidence of lying, to emphasize "studies" that suggest more lying than actually occurs, because I make my living selling lie detection books and services." Don't buy it. 3. You, me, her, nor anyone else will learn much meaningful about lying through looking at endless photographs, videos, etc. of public figures or people caught in lies or criminal acts. If you take nothing else from this rant of mine, take this, "The camera is a greater liar inherently than any human being has the capability to ever be." There are so many dishonest external variables present in film or video recordings of human behavior that anything that comes through a camera is fatally suspect in terms of usefulness. In terms of determining truth, the camera is very useful for facts, who did what, etc. There are very good reasons why filmed evidence would never be admissible in court in determining what the speaker wants us to determine with it. 4. This following is a matter of opinion, but a well-founded one. Body language, facial quirks, etc., are many orders of magnitude less valuable in determining lying than speech patterns themselves, how people choose the actual words they use and even write. The overemphasis on body language in the video is misleading IMO, as it is in sexual attraction, etc. It's true that one should discount words in early dating, but when seeking to determine when one is being purposefully lied to, the word choice, tone and other purely verbal cues are much more important than visual cues IME. 5. Sociopaths and others with certain mental and character traits or defects, or significant tendencies that don't arise to actual pathology, whether innate or built over time, often either 1. believe their own lies such neither they nor their bodies nor minds "know" they are lying or 2. have the innate ability to suspend the internal calculation of truth v lie situationally. Either way, this calls to question any attempts to scientifically study lying in those who do the most of it. OTOH people very often give lying signs, physical manifestations of lies, seem to be lying when they are actually telling the truth. This is why polygraph tests aren't admissible in court. The best liars can negate their results, and others can be portrayed as lying when they aren't. Could go on, but the above are quite enough for me to discount anything else that particular speaker has to say on the subject. If one truly wants to learn how to identify lies, it involves thousands of hours of face to face contact when money, lives or other material things are at stake, not hooking electrodes up to people and endlessly analyzing photos and film for body language.
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