White collar/blue collar dating

[Mme. Chaucer]

I have no collar, and my husband has a blue one. I guess he's above me in the collar hierarchy.

[Celtica]

Because most men don't really care about a woman's status like that. That being said I prefer women who haven't been sheltered their entire life. I know this sounds weird coming from somebody who is married to a Princeton grad but when she went to college she moved to a new state and made her own way in the world instead of being sheltered her entire life.

 

Hm. That's interesting, but sad because I've been pretty sheltered. Ironically, being sheltered got me in major trouble in my later years, which completely defeats the purpose of parent's intentions in the first place .

But that's why I romantically dream of being with a redneck guy, who can teach me the rural ways of life and "unshelter" me lol ... But I'd imagine they want more of a tough chick. My ex admired them at least...

[Woggle]

Hm. That's interesting, but sad because I've been pretty sheltered. Ironically, being sheltered got me in major trouble in my later years, which completely defeats the purpose of parent's intentions in the first place .

But that's why I romantically dream of being with a redneck guy, who can teach me the rural ways of life and "unshelter" me lol ... But I'd imagine they want more of a tough chick. My ex admired them at least...

 

Why not just get out there in the world and live. My wife grew up in an upper class California neighborhood and went to Princeton where she was pretty much on her own. She ended up moving down the shore after she graduated and has traveled all over. Her parents to their credit made her deal with the ways of the world once she was out on her own.

 

As far me I was close to seeing and doing it all before I was legally allowed to drink so in no way am I sheltered. I am no redneck though. I was loose on the streets of New York before gentrification. and no matter how much I try I will never be able to get rid of the traits that that street education instilled in me and honestly I don't want to.

[Radu]

Radu - you are one of the most intelligent people here. I assumed you had 3 PhDs

 

And yes, I relate to people putting you in boxes...In academia, if you are doing hard science and are female, you are constantly underestimated. Older males think I am some bimbo that can't handle hard core stuff. And then I prove them wrong, again and again. And I watch their respect rise. (see my signature )

 

My sister does hard science research, i'm gonna ask her if this happens to her too.

I don't view myself as smart ES, i just view the flaws [i'm not fishing for a compliment here].

Smart at least to me means also having emotional intelligence and social intelligence.

And both of those were and still are absolutely bombed, to the ground.

I'll get them up and running though, eventually.

 

 

Woogle, i've also been sheltered.

In the sense that i was not forced to think what i want out of life untill towards the end of college [5yr college too].

When i ****ed up after that, i had backup.

 

I remember in college i was friends with this guy who told me that when he did bad in HS once and was very rebellious his parents put him out.

They kicked him out of the house for the night.

He never actually came out and said it, but the way he spoke of this, i believe that it completely changed him.

He was a very smart guy [in reference to emotional intelligence], ended up learning german because he had a thing for Rammstein, finished with great grades and went for work at the PSA group in France [where he learned french very fast].

[johan]

A woman I know at work is married to a blue collar guy. He has bounced around from one job to the next trying to make it work. She's the bread-winner by far, and while she tries to be proud of him you can tell the difference is not exactly what she wanted. Partly because he has never found a niche or a steady income, but also because they operate on such different levels professionally.

 

I think it has as much to do with education level and relative professional achievements. If you can find someone whose achievements are in line with yours and whose job you really respect and are interested in, then it could work just fine.

[Radu]

Hm. That's interesting, but sad because I've been pretty sheltered. Ironically, being sheltered got me in major trouble in my later years, which completely defeats the purpose of parent's intentions in the first place .

But that's why I romantically dream of being with a redneck guy, who can teach me the rural ways of life and "unshelter" me lol ... But I'd imagine they want more of a tough chick. My ex admired them at least...

 

 

All of my parent's friends and the parents themselves ended up sheltering somewhat their kids.

Most of the sheltering was an emotional one though, not a material one.

 

And one thing i've noticed is that those that were emotionally sheltered as kids ended up making very very bad choices in their lives when it came to a SO.

Basically they thought with their di*ks and expected the best in the women they chose.

1 is divorced, another is on rocky ground, another is settled with great debts, another is doing ok [he also had a life threatening horrible accident; some guy ran him over], and another does not respect himself and is entering what i entered 8yrs ago ... a depression, but unlike me he has no motivation what-so-ever to get out of it.

 

They were not exposed to emotional instability, and had to understand that some ppl are just plain damaged.

So they ended up marrying, having kids, and now divorcing over not understanding that boundaries have to be established.

[Vogeltron]

Hard to define myself as white or blue collar. Because I run my own biz and am college educated. But I am not afraid to get down and dirty with my car or electrical or anything else physically demanding. I actually am more of the quite type. I prefer women with a bigger personality than me I guess to offset mine. I don't really distinguish between blue and white collar to be honest. Someone else kinda of hinted on it before more about values. I have grown to be more conservative over the past few years actually libertarian but on many aspects people view that as conservative. For me I can't date teachers, medical professionals, receptionists, social workers or anyone else in kinda if a passive-aggressive job (I am sure there are some exceptions but we are talking in general). Just me but I am most attracted by women who work in more traditionally male dominated jobs. Sales, business, even to the few in construction or mechanics. I hate to say it but a woman who can Rock a business suit or can build something I am a sucker for. But I do agree with the people above who do say if you are much more intellectual usually does mean higher education but not always. Things from my experience and people I have had honest conversations with this about can break down at some point.

[El Brujo]

Ugh. I've been to meetups where there were white-collar single women. Talk about snobby! Yes, they were pretty to look at, but they had rudeness to match. Wouldn't even talk to a guy who's wearing anything short of a 3-piece suit.

[NeoGen85]

Hrm.

 

OP, all I would like to say is that it can work. I come from blue-collar beginnings. My mom was 1st grade teacher and my dad was an enlisted officer in the US Navy. They are the perfect example of what you're talking about. My mom is a traditional, educated, and classy southern woman from Charleston SC. My dad is a country man from Belovia NC. I come from your average middle-class American family.

 

My dad was never afraid of a hard working woman. In fact, before my parents had their first dance to She's A Bad Mamma Jamma by Carl Carlton, my dad asked my mother if she made her own money. He stressed that it was important.

 

We get caught up in stereotypes and become afraid to leave our comfort zone. All of sudden you realize that a opportunity was missed.

 

I just received my degree in electrical engineering a few months ago(I'm turning 28 next month) and because of my prior experience doing a trade I got a job immediately after finishing. Having a white-collared job and a degree it's been easier for me to date up. I can hold a woman's attention longer when I tell her I'm a manufacturing engineer as opposed to before when I was an electrician.

 

I will say this...my dating experience in the so called "white-collar" world, it's been hard to find someone who's down to earth and real.

[2sure]

I am blue collar through and through.

But unless you knew me well you wouldn't assume that.

I am thoroughly educated but probably more clever than smart.

My peers are all "white collar" , as are my close friends...but my close friends, like myself, came from "blue collar " backgrounds.

It is a matter of remembering where you came from.

 

To me, those are the people that are the most fun, the most charming, have the most to offer.

[Taramere]

Do any of you have success stories? I grew up in a white collar family and am really starting to take a fancy to "red neck" guys and their pick-up trucks. My last bf was pretty much this, but it was difficult to communicate in terms of conversation.

 

I think class distinctions have become quite meaningless. I've met a lot of people working in the professions who didn't seem to have much up top - and others working in so-called blue collar jobs who seemed very switched on. Vice versa too.

 

I'm less concerned about what a man does for a living, more concerned that he loves animals and the countryside, makes me laugh (and laughs when I'm trying to be funny too) and has a creative side to him. Most of the men I clicked with instantaneously have had a talent for art or music, but that's not some requirement I have - it's just the way it tends to have worked out.