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It's a misguided way of trying to find whether or not she will cheat on him in the future. They don't want to end up that divorced guy who is cheated on and left when she decides she is no longer in love. Not saying it is right but it is more about self protection than men being sexist for the sake of being sexist.

 

I am fully against double standards but I do feel when considering marriage that all questions should be fair game for both genders. A casual hook up is an entirely different game but a marriage partner should be carefully examined and investigated because it prevents heartache down the road.

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No man has asked me this nor have I asked anyone, since high school. My high school BF and I talked about it about simply because he was the first person I had had sex with.

 

The majority of men will never ask you how many people you slept with. I would think a man was insecure and immature if he asked this.

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Huh? Being a professional is what one does to earn a living. How one carries herself romantically and when dating is something entirely different.

 

Maybe I did not express myself correctly... it happens. What I meant was a woman who has a career and is in her mid/late 30's or early 40's. A woman who is classy & self-sufficient, who owns the place in which she lives, who drives a fine car (BMW, Audi, etc), who has travelled extensively ... and who is not impressed by a cheap meal at the local restaurant where elderly couples retire every evening to play bingo while eating. A woman who is worthy of MY attention..... As I said we all have different standards depending on where we find ourselves in life. I don't expect a 20 something "professional" to have the same standards as me.

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Maybe I did not express myself correctly... it happens. What I meant was a woman who has a career and is in her mid/late 30's or early 40's. A woman who is classy & self-sufficient, who owns the place in which she lives, who drives a fine car (BMW, Audi, etc), who has travelled extensively ... and who is not impressed by a cheap meal at the local restaurant where elderly couples retire every evening to play bingo while eating. A woman who is worthy of MY attention..... As I said we all have different standards depending on where we find ourselves in life. I don't expect a 20 something "professional" to have the same standards as me.

 

Do you think driving an expensive car and having an expensive house makes a person classy? All those reality stars do this so are they classy?

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LOL @ this post.

 

First, calm down. You're coming off as extremely butt-hurt. That's not attractive to women.

 

Second, I HAVE met girls and slept with them that night. I've slept with girls after the first date. I've slept with girls after knowing them for minutes (this is not the norm, but it has happened). This is quite common today. Many of my friends have done this many times.

 

Third, I have VERY high standards. As I said, I only date attractive women.

 

Fourth, age doesn't correlate to experience. Many of the dreary posters you read about on here are in their 30s and 40s, while many of the experienced posters are in their 20s.

 

Fifth, I stand by my statement in regards to your game and experience level with women.

 

Whatever you say, Casanova....

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I've never asked but am curious and from hearing about the past I have kind of added up the numbers in my head. For me it's more about if they are into casual sex or not, and if so how long in the past was it. I mean a girl with a number of 10 could bother me less then 5. If the 10 was pretty much or all relationships of a decent time frame it wouldn't bother me (well at my age it would likely be too many relationships) but if the 5 were all ONS, ya that would bug me. And yes, if the number was way too high I would dump her on the spot, but it would have to be an outrageous number.

 

I have no double standard on it, i've been with a women who had quite a bit higher number then me, but seeing as it was not a bunch of a casual sex I was ok with it (even though some was). My number is low and I plan to keep it that way, I don't sleep around with tons of women and I don't want to be with someone who does the same.

 

In a way i'm scared to ask, because whether I like it or not if I don't like the number I hear it might change how I see her.

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Do you think driving an expensive car and having an expensive house makes a person classy? All those reality stars do this so are they classy?

 

If you read carefully what I said, she is not classy as a result of her car +house. She is classy because she's got the looks, the style, the brain, etc. The car, the house, etc are just a corollary of her professional success.

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If you read carefully what I said, she is not classy as a result of her car +house. She is classy because she's got the looks, the style, the brain, etc. The car, the house, etc are just a corollary of her professional success.

 

You don't need brains to get those things these days.

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Amigo, did it occur to you that I am not obliged in any way to share with you that information?? If it makes you sleep better tonight, you may just assume that I did not date any professional women.... They were all taken by Mr. HoneyBadgerBS.....

 

No, we both know what occured to me, "why is this person spouting hot air and insulting other posters about something they have no personal experience of whatsoever?" That's what occured to me. :laugh:

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Yet we're suppose to accept them if they were to say ''Oh yeah just for your information I was a player that screwed any woman at bars'' and be understanding with their ''but honey everyone has a past, you're the only woman I'm with now'' and not be fearful that he might go back to his old ways, give me an STD and cheat during the relationship or marriage (thus setting a bad example for the kids too).

 

I would leave a man like that if he were to tell me that straight to my face. Then again, I wouldn't ask for his number but expect the same in return (I don't ask but you don't ask me either).

 

It seems like it is an important issue to you, so you could ask any potential fiance. You are in a good position to tackle it, because you are proud of your past and have no problem revealing your number. Its not like you have to avoid the subject because you want to brush over your past.

 

"Yet we're suppose to accept them if they were to say ''Oh yeah just for your information I was a player that screwed any woman at bars''

Who says you have to accept that. No you don't have to if the guy does not measure up to your standards. He might tell you its not big deal and try to convince you otherwise if he is in love with you, but you have power to decide what is or is not right for you when it comes to a partner.

 

"and will immediately assume he has that double standards towards sex and is likely very judgemental. I will dump a man for that."

I think you are totally wrong here to assume that just because I man has an interest in how much you have slept around that he has himself. The guy could be a low number guy who very much wants to marry someone who has not slept with a stack of guys and who takes sex & relationships very seriously, like himself.

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But why the question in the first place (I think that's not anyone's business)?

 

We want to know what we're getting ourselves into. Women ask the same sorts of questions only for them it's the opposite, a guy who hasn't been with many women (sexually or otherwise) is going to scare them away.

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Hell, I had a woman volunteer her number last night. She mistook a question I asked about something else for me asking about her number.

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Yet we're suppose to accept them if they were to say ''Oh yeah just for your information I was a player that screwed any woman at bars''

 

That's the wrong way to look at it. You assume that when women and men have the same number of partners, they should be judged the same way.

 

However, the more accurate comparison would be: a female **** is an equivalent of a male virgin.

 

Now tell me, you wouldn't bat an eye if you found out the guy you're dating is an inexperienced virgin all the while having this confident mask that makes you think he is more experienced than he really is (the real equivalent for a woman who, ahem, has been around the block yet makes the guy think she is this innocent angel)? Yeah, didn't think so...

 

 

 

only for them it's the opposite, a guy who hasn't been with many women (sexually or otherwise)

 

Yes, exactly my point.

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dump on the spot? You think people are going to answer honestly? They're going to say what they think the other person wants to hear. They're going to say whatever they like.

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That's the wrong way to look at it. You assume that when women and men have the same number of partners, they should be judged the same way.

 

However, the more accurate comparison would be: a female **** is an equivalent of a male virgin.

 

Now tell me, you wouldn't bat an eye if you found out the guy you're dating is an inexperienced virgin all the while having this confident mask that makes you think he is more experienced than he really is (the real equivalent for a woman who, ahem, has been around the block yet makes the guy think she is this innocent angel)? Yeah, didn't think so...

 

Yes, exactly my point.

 

Maybe you. I've always avoided man whores. And you'd be surprised how many men get upset if you tell them they look like they sleep around.:laugh:

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Maybe you. I've always avoided man whores. And you'd be surprised how many men get upset if you tell them they look like they sleep around.:laugh:

 

Men like that are hypocrites. I think anybody has the right to ask certain questions before marriage but that goes for both men and women. If men want a a woman to have certain traits he should have them as well and vice versa. People should live up to the standards they set for others.

 

As for me I don't care about a woman's number as long as she never cheated. If she did everything honestly then I don't care. I have had casual sex so what would I look like judging a woman for it but I never cheated and I would expect the same from a woman.

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My number is 1 so technically I'm almost every man's dream (a woman that doesn't sleep around that is) but there is one problem: I would get creeped out if a man I'm dating asked me ''How many men you've been with'' and will immediately assume he has that double standards towards sex and is likely very judgemental. I will dump a man for that.

 

I was reading a post about a 31 year-old engaged man that was going through that whole drama about a woman's number. Ever since his fiancee recently told him the new number regarding blow jobs (well that's what happens when you asked) he's been doubting the whole relationship.

 

I assumed that a man in his mid-late 20's or early 30's would already have dealt with that drama already about her number and classifying who is wife material vs who isn't and focus on other things or be more mature. But seriously what age do they just stop asking for that?

 

I don't and have never brought up that conversation. I don't want to know either way... you start to get a feel for a rough number after sleeping with them a few times anyway...

 

... Personally, a girl who's only been with 1 guy is not really a great thing. I mean, I don't want a girl who's been with thousands of guys, fine, but the sex is going to be pretty aweful if she's only been with 1 guy.

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I'm sorry. I simply do not know ANY woman like that. Nor do I know any attractive guy who feels he has to do that for a woman in her league, simply none, nada. But then again, I know educated women with good careers and self respect and not prostitutes or strippers.

 

I guess if you want to call girls that go to elite universities strippers and prostitutes, then go ahead...

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The update on the story is the man broke up the engagement altogether and still had the nerves to say ''But why did you lied about only having 6 partners, why didn't you tell me the truth''?

 

If I were the woman, I would have answer something like this: ''Because I didn't want to deal with another judgemental man, I wanted someone to love me, because I want to get married someday. It's ok now I know what you are and I was wrong for loving you. You proved me right. You are a judgemental jerk.''

 

Imagine that, all that process of loving in fall, being in together for over 3 years, going on with the proposal only to sudden throw it all in the garbage and say ''No, you're not good enough''.

 

I wonder what are the chances that at the age of 31, this guy will find his dream woman with a very low number? The older you get, the less options you have and the harder it is to find that specific person you're looking for.

 

What he wants is like trying to find a needle in a haystack but it's sad he doesn't realizes that. Or he might find her but what if that woman doesn't like his attitude and can't deal with it?

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... Personally, a girl who's only been with 1 guy is not really a great thing. I mean, I don't want a girl who's been with thousands of guys, fine, but the sex is going to be pretty aweful if she's only been with 1 guy.
I still remembered the basic and other things but yes it's been a long while (last time we did it was 2007).

 

I've been asked out recently on several dates but either it never seems to lead further, I don't really have too much time due to work and college (yeah I'm still studying as I want to finish my major already), the opportunity doesn't show up or I don't find any man I'm really attractive to for the meantime (no one that I would consider a potential bf) or I just don't get hit on too much.

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I wonder what are the chances that at the age of 31, this guy will find his dream woman with a very low number? The older you get, the less options you have and the harder it is to find that specific person you're looking for.

 

What he wants is like trying to find a needle in a haystack but it's sad he doesn't realizes that. Or he might find her but what if that woman doesn't like his attitude and can't deal with it?

 

I think you're wrong. Men age differently from women. As men get older they become more desirable for the young chicks. Michael Douglas married a woman 30 years his junior, didn't he? And Adele chose to have her baby with a guy 15 years her senior. The truth is, more and more young women are finding themselves considering older guys for dating. Why?? Simply because they get better treatment from those guys. An older guy is more likely to find what he wants as he gets older, whereas women have to make do with what's left -- I find most women in her mid-40's totally hideous (with very little exceptions).

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The update on the story is the man broke up the engagement altogether and still had the nerves to say ''But why did you lied about only having 6 partners, why didn't you tell me the truth''?

 

If I were the woman, I would have answer something like this: ''Because I didn't want to deal with another judgemental man, I wanted someone to love me, because I want to get married someday. It's ok now I know what you are and I was wrong for loving you. You proved me right. You are a judgemental jerk.''

 

Imagine that, all that process of loving in fall, being in together for over 3 years, going on with the proposal only to sudden throw it all in the garbage and say ''No, you're not good enough''.

 

I wonder what are the chances that at the age of 31, this guy will find his dream woman with a very low number? The older you get, the less options you have and the harder it is to find that specific person you're looking for.

 

What he wants is like trying to find a needle in a haystack but it's sad he doesn't realizes that. Or he might find her but what if that woman doesn't like his attitude and can't deal with it?

 

That's really unfortunate, I don't think he handled it well but at the same time if I was going to marry someone I want to know everything. It's a crappy position to be in. At the same time though if she had done something really freaky i'd probably hope that she would try to avoid saying it. But at the same time, i'd really just hope there was nothing like that. Because no matter what, it would put me off.

 

Sorry to say but certain things just turn guys off. I mean let's say a women had been with 3 guys at once, what kind of guy is going to just brush that off and say "oh it doesn't matter". I don't think I could ever get past something like that personally.

 

Is 6 her actual number, or the number she said to try and save face? 6 isn't bad for anyone who's past early 20's at all.

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Men have an insane amount of double standards when it comes to sex. Men are entitled pigs and think its okay for them to sleep around but they deserve a woman who doesnt.

What Ive learned about men in the past 5 years? They are babies emotionally and they have egos.

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I think you're wrong. Men age differently from women. As men get older they become more desirable for the young chicks. Michael Douglas married a woman 30 years his junior, didn't he? And Adele chose to have her baby with a guy 15 years her senior. The truth is, more and more young women are finding themselves considering older guys for dating. Why?? Simply because they get better treatment from those guys. An older guy is more likely to find what he wants as he gets older, whereas women have to make do with what's left -- I find most women in her mid-40's totally hideous (with very little exceptions).

 

We will see how you look in your mid forties. By the sounds of it , you don't even look good now. Im sure young chicks will be all over you when you're approaching 50. :laugh:

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I don't and have never brought up that conversation. I don't want to know either way... you start to get a feel for a rough number after sleeping with them a few times anyway...

 

... Personally, a girl who's only been with 1 guy is not really a great thing. I mean, I don't want a girl who's been with thousands of guys, fine, but the sex is going to be pretty aweful if she's only been with 1 guy.

 

 

You can learn sex. What if it was a long term relationship? Ohhh wait based on your posts here I remember you as one of the shallow sex-focused ones. Never mind.

 

People are so freaking judgmental about sex, either way you are screwed.

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