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soccerrprp Established Member

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LOL no, of course not. :rolleyes: The world of dating is superficial, that is the harsh reality. It does not matter if you are a great person, smart, witty, well educated, and financially secure and size 18. Men will ignore you for the size 4 psycho chick, who is an unemployed drunken ****, or for the ditzy airhead as long as she is "beautiful".

 

That is the way it is. Men are vain, visual creatures. They want a sexy babe on their arms, and have other men envy them. :rolleyes: Personality doesn't matter to them at all.

 

Excuse me, but this is NOT at all true for me. I want a lady that is sexy TO ME. I couldn't care less what other guys, people think of the woman I'm dating. Personality is 1-2 with physical attractiveness for me. It matters TONS. Hot w/o personality and NO WAY! I never have problems determining whether attractiveness is a deal-breaker for me simply b/c I don't pretend to want to date ladies that I am not physically attracted to. Just being honest here and everyone else should be too on this point.

pbjbear Established Member

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I have a masters in a severely underpaid field so it doesnt guarantee a really well paying job for me. I have no problem dating a guy with a bachelors degree. I do prefer guys with a bachelors but its not because of financial stability. I find very few noncollege graduates mentally stimulating enough for me (always exceptions...Ive met 2 who werent like this) I dont need someone really smart but I like someone who can talk about different things.

stillafool Established Member

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I was kicked out of high school in the 10th grade. I date lawyers, doctors and C-level execs and never have I had a single one ever give a flying *** about my lack of formal education.

 

My husband's friend is married to a woman who never finished HS and he is very educated and makes around $300K a year. They have 3 kids and seem very happy.

 

My cousin has a HS diploma and she's married to an anesthesiologist. They've been married 16 years and have 2 kids. He's crazy about her.

 

It can and does happen though not the norm.

soccerrprp Established Member

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My husband's friend is married to a woman who never finished HS and he is very educated and makes around $300K a year. They have 3 kids and seem very happy.

 

My cousin has a HS diploma and she's married to an anesthesiologist. They've been married 16 years and have 2 kids. He's crazy about her.

 

It can and does happen though not the norm.

 

Hi salaried men marrying attractive women with less education happens all the time! This is not uncommon. :)

Eternal Sunshine Established Member

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There are quite a few men out there that would never seriously date a hot, air-headed bimbo.

carhill Established Member

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I think I've changed my mind on this. The more educated a person is, the smaller their dating pool because of the standards incumbent to the process of becoming educated impact their perception of the extant pool. Far more people are perceived to be outside of their league and fewer within it, and those fewer are more highly sought after due to their own education and social credibility/status. Hence, harder to find a desirable mate. Their education, the preferences developed as a product of it, and their perceived dating pool drill down to a narrower group of potentials to choose amongst.

 

For non-educated people, comparatively, it's a free for all.

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Eternal Sunshine Established Member

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This is true carhill. Women with PhDs are 5 time less likely to ever get married than women without.

 

I know that I am only getting pickier and it ain't doing me no favors.

soccerrprp Established Member

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I think I've changed my mind on this. The more educated a person is, the smaller their dating pool because of the standards incumbent to the process of becoming educated impact their perception of the extant pool. Far more people are perceived to be outside of their league and fewer within it, and those fewer are more highly sought after due to their own education and social credibility/status. Hence, harder to find a desirable mate. Their education, the preferences developed as a product of it, and their perceived dating pool drill down to a narrower group of potentials to choose amongst.

 

For non-educated people, comparatively, it's a free for all.

 

Hmmmmm, yes, makes sense. I like it. :)

soccerrprp Established Member

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This is true carhill. Women with PhDs are 5 time less likely to ever get married than women without.

 

I know that I am only getting pickier and it ain't doing me no favors.

 

You have a PhD?

Object_a Established Member

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Women with PhDs are 5 time less likely to ever get married than women without.

 

This could just as easily be because of the kind of jobs highly educated people take on - long hours, lots of responsibility, stress, and so on. I can't speak for people who work in the private sector with PhDs (scientists and the like) but being on faculty at a university consumes your entire life, so it's much harder to date anyway even without factoring in how your education affects your dating pool.

ltjg45 Established Member

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Fellows is it really that hard to ask a girl out?

 

Yes!

 

If the female has the stance that she doesn't want to be approached, I won't approach her.

 

It's that simple. A overwhelming number of females has that stance at any given time.

 

Women got what they wanted. Careers, independence, etc etc.....yet they expect the males to continue to chase and court them?

 

I think not! We are, by law, equal. Women has just as much power to change their dating situation as the males do. If the women is so picky when it comes to their mates, why don't they approach the males they want themselves?

ltjg45 Established Member

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You don't have what it takes? You have nothing of value? You have nothing to offer? You are not worthy of a woman?

 

No wonder you are afraid to ask.

 

What I can offer and what women want is two totally different things.

 

While I can offer love, companionship, and the ability to have a long-term relationship since I want to settle down, this doesn't replace the lack of work (and funds), living at my mother's house, the lack of a wardrobe, and other material things.

 

No woman of worth wants to deal with a broke man and I can't blame them. That's just common sense.

 

So until I find work, there is no need to approach women. They don't want to deal with my "baggage".

 

Mind you, I don't see a lot of women that I like enough to approach so I don't feel I'm missing out on too much.

 

Find your self-worth, self-respect, grab your nuts and go make it happen.

 

I know I have self-worth. As for self-respect, that's debatable but I'm not going for any woman either so I guess that counts for something.

 

Women do not want to have to clean your dirty underwear, cook dinner, have your children, raise children and have to ask you out too.

 

Any woman that I may be with don't have to clean my dirty underwear or cook dinner. That is not a requirement.

 

As for children, I will leave that to her choice. I'm cool with her decision either way.

 

Not to mention you are trying to twist my words. Everything necessary that needs to be done is now both genders' responsibility.

 

When I mean both males and females are equal, I literally mean that.

 

If you dont like the "rules" on who asks who out... I guess you can keep doing what you are doing and hope for a different outcome or you can do what has worked since cavemen/women walked the earth and start asking women out.

 

The choice is yours, choose wisely.

 

During that time, the man was responsibility for being the primary breadwinner so, of course, it falls on the males to do that.

 

This day and age, it's equal to both genders now, if not a slight advantage to the female.

 

The "rules" doesn't apply anymore. Most males is more content these days staying single due to the women's expectations being too high. Also, most males is not interested in the standard marriage either since, if it breaks apart regardless of who is at fault, the advantage remains to the female.

 

And yet the women is surprised males is not chasing them as much anymore? How disappointing.

 

Now, I'm not saying this is all the women's faults. I have seen many males that deserves to get a swift kick in the balls for their actions. Hell, I'm not even picking sides in this matter.

 

All I'm saying is that, regardless of who you are or what gender you are, if there is something or someone you want, you go and get it. Women want to have equal rights? Well, they got it. Women can't have their cake and eat it too.

 

As my NJROTC Senior Naval Science Instructor (and retired Commander of the Navy) has told me, "More power means more responsibility."

 

I took that to heart and it definitely applies here.

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Education is highly overrated when it comes to dating. I have a science PhD and it was much more of a hindrance than an asset. Judging from what I saw among the women in my graduate program, the rugged "alpha male-ness" associated with the blue collar trades was much more appealing from an instinctive attraction standpoint.

 

Women don't care about education or degrees. However they do care about money which an education can bring.

ltjg45 Established Member

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Sounds like you want to resolve some things before you feel ready to date. Nothing wrong with that.

 

When you are ready, I know you are a fan of waiting for women to ask you out.... However, I would suggest that you consider asking women out too. You can enjoy the best of both worlds.

 

I'm not expecting women to ask me around. I'm sure, to most women, I'm not what they consider as "physically attractive" to them.

 

I would agree. I wouldn't date myself, that's for sure. If someone ask me if I think myself to be ugly, I would say, "Yeah". What? You expected me to say I'm sexy? If I say that, I expected to be slapped for lying.

 

Anyway, I only ask out women that wants to be approached and I find them physically attracted.

 

It's really can't get any more simple than this. I find quite a high number of women physically attractive but when they are stuck in their cell phones, I'm not making a move. If they had any interest in me, they would be looking at me at least once.

 

Confidence is great. Arrogance, however, is terrible and no one with any form of self-respect wants that. People need to know their place.

Eternal Sunshine Established Member

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Women don't care about education or degrees. However they do care about money which an education can bring.

 

I do care and care very much <about actual education>

Eternal Sunshine Established Member

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This could just as easily be because of the kind of jobs highly educated people take on - long hours, lots of responsibility, stress, and so on. I can't speak for people who work in the private sector with PhDs (scientists and the like) but being on faculty at a university consumes your entire life, so it's much harder to date anyway even without factoring in how your education affects your dating pool.

 

This is true. The divorce rate is also the highest among academics and money is not so good :/

 

I am considering going into the private sector.

 

I also find that men are somewhat uncomfortable around me due to this (unless they have a great career themselves). It's not even conscious. Blue collar workers will relate so much better to blue collar women. People do want to be comfortable with someone they are dating.

 

And then there is my own pickiness :(

fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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I feel like I'd be better off if I wasn't educated than if I was. My education has been more of an albatross hanging around my neck than a benefit of any kind. Whether in dating or in the working world...

Eternal Sunshine Established Member

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I feel like I'd be better off if I wasn't educated than if I was. My education has been more of an albatross hanging around my neck than a benefit of any kind. Whether in dating or in the working world...

 

How educated are you?

stillafool Established Member

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Yes!

 

 

It's that simple. A overwhelming number of females has that stance at any given time.

 

 

There are also an overwhelming number of females who DO NOT have that stance so ask them out.

soccerrprp Established Member

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I feel like I'd be better off if I wasn't educated than if I was. My education has been more of an albatross hanging around my neck than a benefit of any kind. Whether in dating or in the working world...

 

May I ask what you do? Education? And what do you account for this perceived handicap?

fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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How educated are you?

 

Bachelor's. Nothing much, but more than many of my friends who either dropped out of college or never went.

ltjg45 Established Member

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There are also an overwhelming number of females who DO NOT have that stance so ask them out.

 

Actually, that isn't the case.

 

In a given week, I only found maybe 20 women tops that doesn't have that stance.

 

15 of them, I'm not physically attracted to so they are out.

 

The rest? It depends on the situation. I'm not going to embarrass myself just to get to know a female.

 

I'm not that stupid.

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Education makes a difference? Some seem to think this is the case. Honestly, I do not see a difference in making for one's desirability in the pool. I've been with my fair share of educated vs. non educated men in the past. And honestly? They want someone who is lesser than they are. This does not just pertain to education, this pertains to the total package:

 

1) Education

2) Looks

3) Body

4) Charisma / Personality

5) Dependancy

 

They want someone who will take care of them (financially, wash their clothes, cook their food, etc.), who will just do what they are told rather than be independant. One former bf of mine married a high school drop out with two children by two previous marriages, screamed and fought like a shreiking harpie at him, and then she ran off, married husband #4, and divorced husband #4. After she more or less moved to another state and said "Know what? I'm just going to move down here and I'll be back for holidays and occassions." THink I have pity for him? Of course not. He could have had something better than that and he chose trash.

 

His story is rather extreme, but it has happened more times than not to me and other women I have seen. THey go for the trashy girl, the less attractive one, the one with less personality, the one who will just follow what they do or say because they are weak. Does that always work? Probably not, but that's how we are in the world. Sounds bitter? You bet it does.

fortyninethousand322 Established Member

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May I ask what you do? Education? And what do you account for this perceived handicap?

 

Alternative media. Education is a BA in Middle East Studies. Education would have been better probably if it had some practical application. Which of course, it doesn't on its own.

soccerrprp Established Member

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dates without education are the worst. any exceptions. they tend to be drug dealers

 

Really?! Come on, really?

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