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I don't think educated (in general) vs. non-educated makes much of a difference in regards to dating pool. However I do think that one's specific field of study might matter a bit more. For example someone with a degree in journalism or economics *may* have more frequent opportunities to meet and date people than someone with a degree in computer science. The former fields generally require more face-to-face interaction and strong social skills and rapport-building (plus people are more likely to network and put themselves out there). The latter field (CS) is a bit better suited to folks who keep to themselves...but ultimately even that depends on what the person does specifically and where he works. And many folks land opportunities outside of their fields.

 

One's personality, inner/outer social circle, looks (especially for women) and location has far more influence on dating pool size than his or her education level. That said, college is probably the best opportunity for many people to meet others and date.

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I've never felt like my education was an asset in the dating world. Not once. I've never really found my education to be asset in the job market either.

 

I do prefer educated women though, preferably intellectual ones. I just find that to be very attractive. Like women who like going to museums or talking about obscure stuff. I rarely find those women to be attracted to me though. So who knows...

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IME, generally, and in particular for men, quantifiable education, meaning a lady can contact the institution and verify the man's claims, can and does result in a larger dating pool, meaning women who will qualify him past the initial attraction. For the same amount of women who find him attractive, more will find him datable.

 

In my generation and demographic, a woman's quantifiable education hasn't demonstrated to be markedly important. I interface with fairly successful couples, most married many years, and the ladies, while quite intelligent, generally aren't educated in the quantifiable sense (as posted prior). There's no doubt they're smart and savvy.

 

As reference, I was the product of a lifelong marriage of a CPA and a farm girl.

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I think the trend now is for more ladies than men to be earning degrees and furthering their education. So that puts some increased competitive pressure on educated women looking for a match. On the whole I think women don't want to date someone less educated or poorer than themselves.

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I think the trend now is for more ladies than men to be earning degrees and furthering their education. So that puts some increased competitive pressure on educated women looking for a match. On the whole I think women don't want to date someone less educated or poorer than themselves.

 

I agree with this for the most part. But, you have to admit, why should they? Now that women are more educated and in better position to be the chooser instead of the beggar, it makes sense.

 

But, really, this discussion is whether education matters in how and who we select. And the simple answer is that it does. We may or may not "feel" there's any advantage, or personality-wise, it makes a difference, but we do use education as an important criterion.

 

Unfortunately it also proves to be another stumbling block to finding someone for some.

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There are certainly educated/wealthy men that have preference for uneducated and very young women to marry. Those men are not looking for a deep connection. They only care about the superficial so good riddance to them.

 

That's a bunch of BS. If an uneducated women does get married to a wealthy male, considering the advantages she has when it ever time for a divorce, something tells me there is more to that woman than it meets the eye. Either she can give the guy the best sex he can ever find or she's more of a housewife than the educated women he dated.

 

For some males, being independent is great but when you literally stay all mighty and is constantly being dominant, males is going to bolt because most males can't handle dominant-at-all-times females.

 

Now I'm not saying that there isn't some dumb wealthy males but there is some very smart, low-education women out there that can hold up against those with Master's Degree-education people. I wouldn't be surprised if I run into one of them at some point in my life.

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But going back to the original Question, does anybody really think the woman who's a 6 but is a CEO has a bigger dating pool then the girl who's a 9 who doesn't have a degree? Seriously?

 

They both are about equal in the long run but the 9 woman will definitely have the initial advantage due to her looks and how highly men value a woman's looks.

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Your be surprised. It's not just educated men, what I've noticed is men of all levels of high success don't really want or seek out an equal on an economic or intellectual level. Those guys just want trophies. It's the complete opposite for women and I think that's the number one reason why its easier for those men to find A partner then Women.

 

I mean look at Kobe Bryant. He was 21 and signed a 70 million dollar contract with Los Angelos. And look who he married, a Damn Video girl in HS who he met at a shoot(who had NOTHING). Why? Because he doesn't care about that, all he wanted was someone who he was physically attracted to and had a emotional connection with it.

 

Exactly lol.

 

However, Right now they're women who are highly educated and Make great money who are baffled at the thought that other women who aren't nearly as smart or have nearly as much money who are in relationships and are married while they're not.

 

But going back to the original Question, does anybody really think the woman who's a 6 but is a CEO has a bigger dating pool then the girl who's a 9 who doesn't have a degree? Seriously?

 

That's Kobe Bryant though. I would even question the emotional connection part in his case. It's pretty obvious he wanted a trophy wife in every sense of the word.

 

Lots of other NBA players have married women who they went to college with and are educated and from a similar background.

 

Chris Paul is filthy rich, handsome, and even a normal height. Pretty much the perfect catch. But he married someone he went to college with. She is cute and all but he could have easily have had any of a number of women who are a solid 10 all day long.

 

So, men will pick a 6 over a 9. I don't know if they'd ever pick the 3 or 4 though. :lmao:

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Exactly lol.

 

However, Right now they're women who are highly educated and Make great money who are baffled at the thought that other women who aren't nearly as smart or have nearly as much money who are in relationships and are married while they're not.

 

But going back to the original Question, does anybody really think the woman who's a 6 but is a CEO has a bigger dating pool then the girl who's a 9 who doesn't have a degree? Seriously?

 

We are not talking about who has a bigger or smaller dating pool. We are talking about what an educated man expects in a partner. In my generation the majority of men don't want to be the only bread winners, they know the chances of divorce is high and a woman who makes no money will most probably screw them in the long run. So career and smarts DO matter, specially for men who have their pick of beautiful women. Sure an ugly millionair doctor who is 55 year old might go for the beautiful much younger waitress but the girl is also giving up a lot here. A highly educated, very handsome 32 year old man with a great job really has his pick of women and he will not settle for a woman who only has beauty on her plate.

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do non-educated folks have any dating opportunities for successful and high achieving mates or the locked on the bottom of the dating rung

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do non-educated folks have any dating opportunities for successful and high achieving mates or the locked on the bottom of the dating rung

 

Sure there's opportunity. But I do have to wonder why a "non-educated" person would actively seek out a "high achieving mate" as opposed to someone similarly situated to themselves? That just wreaks of gold digging to me.

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I don't think this is very relevant. Your situations are basically guys that want trophy wives marrying girls that want guys with money. 100% superficial relationship.

 

If the 2 people ARE NOT looking for a superficial relationship, then like attracts like.

 

 

Complete nonsense

 

 

My sister and her husband who earns 300K a year are madly in love with each other

My best friend's millionaire lawyer dad and the mom (who never graduated college) were madly in love with each other when they were dating (they divorced in their 40s)

Just a couple examples off the top of my head. I've been to parties with lots of wealthy men who had beautiful wives who had never accomplished anything/never went to school/etc...

 

 

Income/Education/career/status doesn't really matter for female appeal to men

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Your be surprised. It's not just educated men, what I've noticed is men of all levels of high success don't really want or seek out an equal on an economic or intellectual level. Those guys just want trophies. It's the complete opposite for women and I think that's the number one reason why its easier for those men to find A partner then Women.

 

I mean look at Kobe Bryant. He was 21 and signed a 70 million dollar contract with Los Angelos. And look who he married, a Damn Video girl in HS who he met at a shoot(who had NOTHING). Why? Because he doesn't care about that, all he wanted was someone who he was physically attracted to and had a emotional connection with it.

 

Exactly lol.

 

However, Right now they're women who are highly educated and Make great money who are baffled at the thought that other women who aren't nearly as smart or have nearly as much money who are in relationships and are married while they're not.

 

But going back to the original Question, does anybody really think the woman who's a 6 but is a CEO has a bigger dating pool then the girl who's a 9 who doesn't have a degree? Seriously?

 

 

^^^^ this, it's common sense really

 

 

A beautiful female with a great figure who works at McDonalds will have more options than a female brain surgeon who is homely looking

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Complete nonsense

 

 

My sister and her husband who earns 300K a year are madly in love with each other

My best friend's millionaire lawyer dad and the mom (who never graduated college) were madly in love with each other when they were dating (they divorced in their 40s)

Just a couple examples off the top of my head. I've been to parties with lots of wealthy men who had beautiful wives who had never accomplished anything/never went to school/etc...

 

 

Income/Education/career/status doesn't really matter for female appeal to men

 

Wow, awesome...anecdotal evidence based on an obviously limited perspective. Well done.

 

To many of the men that I know, it DOES matter. I've worked in various fields (medical, military, and business) and have traveled all over the world. So I've had exposure to quite a number of different kinds of people and personalities. I've found that all some men care about is looks, but, generally, if a guy has options, he's looking for more than that.

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ok, when it comes to dating, those with education bachelors and master degrees vs vs those with no education. When it comes to dating, many traits are looked at and identified, but education tops the list because it determines what jobs, income, financial stability, and ability to shower the mate with material things are. In addition, they may better udnerstand hosuehold and dating tasks and management than those without.

 

Its surprising how many high income as well as sexy and attractive date non educated folks. Only 17% us population age 18 and over have a bachelors degree and only 7% a masters degree. At this time, 60% of all women are single and 50% of all women that has ever married ended ion divorce and 40% of all women have never been married.

 

I WONDER, DO THOSE WITH COLLEGE DEGREE more suitable for dating than non educated or is the dating pool the same fro both groups.

 

I think the question really should be one of whether an educated person has street smarts or not. Unfortunately there are plenty of living examples of the stereotypical highly educated nerd who knows how to split the atom but who has no idea what a switchblade is supposed to look like.

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I'm a little shocked that some believe that education does not matter or it's not that important. I admit that I have not read every post, but there are a number of examples of hi-salaried men marrying less educated women. My response is, so what's so surprising about that? And my next couple of questions then become:

 

1. Were these very attractive women who were or may have been "trophy" wives? I see that a lot among the divorced ladies now. Once had it all, now finding it difficult to figure what to do with their lives b/c they stopped educating themselves after hitting the jack-pot and getting the guy that makes great money

2. Were these guys as or more attractive then the ladies? I wonder about this.

 

It seems that men are quicker to marry the lesser educated woman especially if she's very attractive and the woman to marry the guy, of course, if he's got the high salary.

 

Using such examples where hi salaries are involved skews the EDUCATION debate. Let's talk about people who are not making huge salaries, etc. and then more objectively conclude whether education matters or not.

 

Education matters! If I was making huge amounts of money, it would matter less for me too. I'd go after the most beautiful ladies knowing that my salary would be very enticing.

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^^^^ this, it's common sense really

 

 

A beautiful female with a great figure who works at McDonalds will have more options than a female brain surgeon who is homely looking

 

...options to get 'pumped and dumped' maybe... but not treated like a person. If some rich guy picks her up, it would only be to consolidate the maid/nanny/f_buddy jobs into one convenient package... and she would go along with it because SHE has no real personal options.

 

While... the 'homely' female brain surgeon has many more options for a happy, fulfilling life, with or without a man and can be reassured that (for the most part) men who are interested in her are doing so because of her personality.

 

... AND she can afford plastic surgery if she is that homely.

 

So, in my book, there really is no benefit for a woman to try and bank in on her looks via men. Better to hit the books (or some challenging career path) and make your way in life... with or without a man in it.

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...options to get 'pumped and dumped' maybe... but not treated like a person. If some rich guy picks her up, it would only be to consolidate the maid/nanny/f_buddy jobs into one convenient package... and she would go along with it because SHE has no real personal options.

 

While... the 'homely' female brain surgeon has many more options for a happy, fulfilling life, with or without a man and can be reassured that (for the most part) men who are interested in her are doing so because of her personality.

 

... AND she can afford plastic surgery if she is that homely.

 

So, in my book, there really is no benefit for a woman to try and bank in on her looks via men. Better to hit the books (or some challenging career path) and make your way in life... with or without a man in it.

 

I thought he was talking about raw numbers. There are more options for the beautiful burger flipper because she is on the bottom. Basically anyone at the bottom up to the top is fair game. Whereas the homely female surgeon is at the pinnacle of income, education and achievement. Her peers are fewer. She is unlikely to reach beneath her station to find a date.

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I thought he was talking about raw numbers. There are more options for the beautiful burger flipper because she is on the bottom. Basically anyone at the bottom up to the top is fair game. Whereas the homely female surgeon is at the pinnacle of income, education and achievement. Her peers are fewer. She is unlikely to reach beneath her station to find a date.

 

Not true. I know plenty of 'female brain surgeons' who have reached 'beneath her station' (as you say) to find happiness. You might be surprised to know that I WAS the pretty burger flipper once upon a time... and am now the older, wiser reasonably attractive equivalent of the female brain surgeon... and I have plenty of female friends who are the same.

 

Their husbands are firefighters, construction workers, surveyors, etc... these women are high up in major multinational organizations. One of my best friends holds 75 patents!!! Of course... they married these guys before they became uber-successful. Maybe that is the key.

 

In my observation, it is the men who have problems with women who are more accomplished than them... not the other way around.

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Sure there's opportunity. But I do have to wonder why a "non-educated" person would actively seek out a "high achieving mate" as opposed to someone similarly situated to themselves? That just wreaks of gold digging to me.

 

I don't need a "high achieving mate" but the woman around me that is on my education/income ladder is not dating-material women.

 

I'm happier being single than dating them.

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The only overarching commonality for women is that the hotter you are, the larger dating pool and even this is subjective, since what's hot to some, won't be hot to others.

 

The balance of education or not, pretty much any other trait, will rely on the subjective preferences of the guy.

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The only overarching commonality for women is that the hotter you are, the larger dating pool and even this is subjective, since what's hot to some, won't be hot to others.

 

The balance of education or not, pretty much any other trait, will rely on the subjective preferences of the guy.

 

I think this is a universal thing. Attractive people have more people wanting to date them.

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I don't go for educated or working class women. The way I always evaluated the women I dated was getting to know them and seeing what kind of person they are. You can't get that from a piece of paper from any university. You have to really take the time to get to see what a person is about. I don't think it is a good idea to treat dating like a job interview where you look at references and certificates and all of that.

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...options to get 'pumped and dumped' maybe... but not treated like a person. If some rich guy picks her up, it would only be to consolidate the maid/nanny/f_buddy jobs into one convenient package... and she would go along with it because SHE has no real personal options.

 

What do you base this on?

 

My sister and her husband have a fantastic marriage where they get along better than anybody I've ever seen and my sister never worked a halfway respectable job (while her husband earns 300+K a year)

 

Why can't you women just believe that men aren't as shallow about things like education/income/status?

 

Hell I clear 100k myself and I don't have a problem marrying a nice girl from a low key background and not much money (although intelligence/education is definitely important but you don't need a college degree or a fancy job for that)

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does anybody really think the woman who's a 6 but is a CEO has a bigger dating pool then the girl who's a 9 who doesn't have a degree? Seriously?

 

LOL no, of course not. :rolleyes: The world of dating is superficial, that is the harsh reality. It does not matter if you are a great person, smart, witty, well educated, and financially secure and size 18. Men will ignore you for the size 4 psycho chick, who is an unemployed drunken ****, or for the ditzy airhead as long as she is "beautiful".

 

That is the way it is. Men are vain, visual creatures. They want a sexy babe on their arms, and have other men envy them. :rolleyes: Personality doesn't matter to them at all.

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