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Only for sex. I know very few men who would be willing to marry a highschool dropout, very few.

 

 

A beautiful 23 year old cocktail waitress who has never had a real job in her life and never went to college could have her pick of wealthy doctors and lawyers and CEOs all day long

 

 

Status/college/money/job - none of that stuff matters in terms of women having options

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Yup, for sex. I doubt a doctor would want to be involved in a LTR with a HS drop out or even one that has only graduated from HS.

 

 

My sister is beautiful and she never went to college. The amount of wealthy and very educated men who wanted to date her was endless. She ended up marrying a man in NY who makes 300,000 dollars a year

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My sister is beautiful and she never went to college. The amount of wealthy and very educated men who wanted to date her was endless. She ended up marrying a man in NY who makes 300,000 dollars a year

 

Always exceptions to the rule or trend. :)

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A beautiful 23 year old cocktail waitress who has never had a real job in her life and never went to college could have her pick of wealthy doctors and lawyers and CEOs all day long

 

 

Status/college/money/job - none of that stuff matters in terms of women having options

 

I don't think this is very relevant. Your situations are basically guys that want trophy wives marrying girls that want guys with money. 100% superficial relationship.

 

If the 2 people ARE NOT looking for a superficial relationship, then like attracts like.

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A beautiful 23 year old cocktail waitress who has never had a real job in her life and never went to college could have her pick of wealthy doctors and lawyers and CEOs all day long

 

 

Status/college/money/job - none of that stuff matters in terms of women having options

 

Maybe in your social circle. I don't know many doctors and CEOs like you do apparently (:rolleyes:) but the lawyers and engineers I know simply would not. I have tons of friends with masters and PhDs and while they would happily date a beautiful waitress, they won't commit to her for marriage.

 

Ps. And just so you know, not all of us women care for a "super wealthy men", specially the ones who make their own money and are career oriented. A wealthy man will have his pick of golddiggers but that's about it. I guess you know that already given how much money you claim to make.

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For men? Yes it can have an impact. Because Better education usually means better job which then translates to more money.

 

For women? It doesn't really matter at all. For example, I could take a pretty HS dropout and out her in a room full of doctors and shed have her pick

Wrong

 

Have you met med students or doctors before? They date people with education. Education generally matters to educated men. Or at least a woman with a career of some sort. Me and my friends all value that in a woman.

 

And OP, your college degree stats are off. Its not 17% anymore and hasnt been for quite some time. And hell, if you live in a big city, it seems like half of the young single women you meet have some sort of college degree.

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^You are talking like .00001 percent of all high school drop outs. The rich and/or famous dont apply to this convo.

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Say what you want but not college educated people are smart and successful and not all HS drop outs are dumb and poor either.

 

The guy who served my dinner tonight had a 4 year degree in Business from a good school. I'm sure was a smart kid and could name the capital of India... He was still serving my food though.

 

Look at LARGE majority of the computer / information age / dotcom crowd... A lot of them only have HS and some college. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, etc. and that's not including the millions of others who are not famous, who still did very well. These people are not dumb or poor because they didn't major in Art History, English or Sociology.

 

Agreed. I was writing up a post to make this point, but I didn't feel I was getting it across well enough. Well done.

 

To me, intelligence matters WAY more than education. I have a masters degree. Still, I've met very few truly intelligent people. Many of the intelligent people that I have met, I met away from school.

 

These days, education is what you're supposed to do. So many educated people are just the ones following the crowd.

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I consider myself somewhat intelligent even though all I have is a HS diploma.

 

I'm sure if I were to get into a debate with someone who has a bachelor's degree, I can hold my own.

 

So I'm not outright afraid of an educated woman. The only issue I would have is that I couldn't at least match her education level myself.

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I consider myself somewhat intelligent even though all I have is a HS diploma.

 

I'm sure if I were to get into a debate with someone who has a bachelor's degree, I can hold my own.

 

So I'm not outright afraid of an educated woman. The only issue I would have is that I couldn't at least match her education level myself.

 

The thing is...these days, with the internet, one can easily educate themselves on an assortment of topics.

 

The only reason to get a formal education is that a degree allows you to get a job in certain specialized fields. Since the economic downturn, degrees may not even get you that.

 

I think this sums it up: "You dropped a hundred and fifty grand on an education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library."

 

;)

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Say what you want but not college educated people are smart and successful and not all HS drop outs are dumb and poor either.

 

The guy who served my dinner tonight had a 4 year degree in Business from a good school. I'm sure was a smart kid and could name the capital of India... He was still serving my food though.

 

Look at LARGE majority of the computer / information age / dotcom crowd... A lot of them only have HS and some college. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Michael Dell, etc. and that's not including the millions of others who are not famous, who still did very well. These people are not dumb or poor because they didn't major in Art History, English or Sociology.

Theres a reason why the bulk of successful folks and people with money are educated. Same way theres a reason the sizable majority of hs dropouts have done crap with their lives.

 

Dont blame me, blame the stats that show that those with college degrees make a lot more in their lifetime than those with less education. Fact remains that an education leaves you better off in life, and that those with education tend to make more money and live more comfortably. Stop using examples of the rich and famous.

 

Theyd have gotten to where they are with or without college education. You cant use them as examples regarding the general population.

 

PS - Remember the dot com bubble burst? Millions of tech people lost their money in that too.

 

PPS - The guy serving you your food wont have that job for long, and is possibly working through grad school. Id bet all my money in the world that a couple years from now he will be very well employed, while some drop out takes his job. Hell, most servers are either college students, hs dropouts, or hs grads because they arent qualified for much anything else.

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^ TL;DR ^

 

Why are the non-formally educated so insecure about college? If you dont need it, then fine. But it doesnt change the fact that stats dont lie. Educated folks make more money and live more comfortably than non educated folks. And most hs educated folks are in the bottom rung of society. Exceptions are great and all, but theres usually good explanation why those folks never made it through school and are in the circumstances they are in.

 

The top 1% of the country doesnt really count when it comes to the life of everyday citizens.

 

Get over it.

 

PS - Funny how I never see degree holders starting threads online or making posts feeling the need to state how dropouts can be this or can be that. Or how they know so and so with a degree who is dumb. Talk about insecurity.

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^ TL;DR ^

 

Why are the non-formally educated so insecure about college? If you dont need it, then fine. But it doesnt change the fact that stats dont lie. Educated folks make more money and live more comfortably than non educated folks. And most hs educated folks are in the bottom rung of society. Exceptions are great and all, but theres usually good explanation why those folks never made it through school and are in the circumstances they are in.

 

The top 1% of the country doesnt really count when it comes to the life of everyday citizens.

 

Get over it.

 

PS - Funny how I never see degree holders starting threads online or making posts feeling the need to state how dropouts can be this or can be that. Or how they know so and so with a degree who is dumb. Talk about insecurity.

 

Did you even read my post?

 

I have a masters degree. I completely agree with the other poster. I think formal education is WAY overrated.

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Education. The degree. All matter and important. For jobs and for many, for selecting their mates. It's not about being "smart", rather perception of intelligence and earning potential. People, including myself, look at the level of education and profession of potential mates/partners. It's the reality for many. I've dated physicians, lawyers to a HS graduate. But however open-minded I want to be, my initial impulse is to seek out ladies whose education is closest to my own.

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This attacking of educated and less-then-educated is silly. We get into heated discussions like this b/c there are a few, mostly among the more educated, that tend to raise their noses up with dissatisfaction towards people who didn't achieve the level of education as they did.

 

I dated a woman who graduated with a HS degree that was as or more intelligent than some of the more "educated" ladies i've met. You have plenty of knuckle-heads throughout the spectrum of academia.

 

The reality is that education does matter. And the statistics show that CLEARLY from health, to divorce rates, to quality of life....and dating.

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Hmmmm.....my husband is an engineer and I am only finishing up community college just now. Our relationship is anything but superficial, despite the fact that my husband has far more education and earns more than double my salary.

 

My husband says that intelligence means far more to him than education or a career. He also says that when he dated very educated women in the past, they were selfish and only wanted to date him because he was an engineer.

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I have a masters degree. Still, I've met very few truly intelligent people. Many of the intelligent people that I have met, I met away from school.

 

Funny how I never see degree holders starting threads online or making posts feeling the need to state how dropouts can be this or can be that. Or how they know so and so with a degree who is dumb.

 

I think formal education is WAY overrated.

 

Was I replying to you?

 

Indirectly, yes.

 

I see too many times on this forum and other forums, posts that say "I didnt go to college and I make soooo much money. College isnt worth much...I know dumb educated people. Blah blah blah" Yet I never see degree holders go out of their way to make posts or threads like that.

 

Talk about insecurity.

 

If someone is making buttloads of money...very up there into the 6 figures...why do they need to assert themselves so much online? I see it time and time again, that some supposed big shot making over 100 or 200k posts on a board puffing his chest. In other words, I highly doubt that an upper class male with cash to throw around, wastes his time online trying to convince others of how smart, successful, and rich he is.

 

Gimme a break with that.

 

Are educated people as a whole dumb? No. Are some educated people dumb? Yes.

 

Many just go to college because it's what they're told to do. Many don't plan and get a degree in basket weaving, then come out of school with no job and tons of debt.

 

Obviously, not all, but many.

 

As for your last comment, I agree. I don't believe that anyone that actually did make tons of money comes on to random internet forums to brag about their wealth and put other people down. I'm not saying that poster is being honest. I'm just saying that I agree with him on his argument.

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Interested conversation going here....

 

I think your decision on career path is more of a determining factor than the purchase of a college degree.

 

Your career determines your level of intellect, social status, social circle, future potential income, etc.

 

At 31, I consider myself above average but not beautiful by any means. I have a total of nine college credits to my name and have had my pick of doctors, lawyers, etc.

 

Funny some of you state possibly for s*x but not marriage. These were the ones that were rushing me home to meet the parents and held out the longest -respectively- to try to bed me.

 

Sorry I have to disagree with the majority on this one.

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Ah the old "my friend is a HS dropout and is now a billionaire" chestnut :rolleyes:

 

There are certainly educated/wealthy men that have preference for uneducated and very young women to marry. Those men are not looking for a deep connection. They only care about the superficial so good riddance to them.

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From what I have seen... This is usually the case.

 

And these girls are looking for $$$$$. Perfect match in a way.

 

What's love got to do with it? :(

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... and there are plenty of well-educated men looking for a different kind of 'trophy' wife.

 

They want the successful, highly accomplished, well connected woman to parade around to enhance their career too... and bump them up the social ladder.

 

It's a different kind of shallow. The men just going on looks/age and the men just going after a list of accomplishments are equally unappealing to me.

 

I get it that people want stability. To the extent that their goals are designed to find that... I can accept. I have a hard time accepting goals based on sheer vanity.... no matter what they are.

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... and there are plenty of well-educated men looking for a different kind of 'trophy' wife.

 

They want the successful, highly accomplished, well connected woman to parade around to enhance their career too... and bump them up the social ladder.

 

It's a different kind of shallow. The men just going on looks/age and the men just going after a list of accomplishments are equally unappealing to me.

 

I get it that people want stability. To the extent that their goals are designed to find that... I can accept. I have a hard time accepting goals based on sheer vanity.... no matter what they are.

 

I have seen this in academic circles. Men that post in this thread saying that women's accomplishments are not attractive to men at all are living a very sheltered life.

 

For men that want a different kind of trophy, looks/age are irrelevant. And yes, they disgust me in a similar ways.

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Education matters but I would rather have somebody with street smarts, life smarts and relationship smarts. There are many people with just book smarts that have no idea how to function in life and have a healthy relationship.

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Only for sex. I know very few men who would be willing to marry a highschool dropout, very few.

 

Your be surprised. It's not just educated men, what I've noticed is men of all levels of high success don't really want or seek out an equal on an economic or intellectual level. Those guys just want trophies. It's the complete opposite for women and I think that's the number one reason why its easier for those men to find A partner then Women.

 

I mean look at Kobe Bryant. He was 21 and signed a 70 million dollar contract with Los Angelos. And look who he married, a Damn Video girl in HS who he met at a shoot(who had NOTHING). Why? Because he doesn't care about that, all he wanted was someone who he was physically attracted to and had a emotional connection with it.

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My sister is beautiful and she never went to college. The amount of wealthy and very educated men who wanted to date her was endless. She ended up marrying a man in NY who makes 300,000 dollars a year

 

Exactly lol.

 

However, Right now they're women who are highly educated and Make great money who are baffled at the thought that other women who aren't nearly as smart or have nearly as much money who are in relationships and are married while they're not.

 

But going back to the original Question, does anybody really think the woman who's a 6 but is a CEO has a bigger dating pool then the girl who's a 9 who doesn't have a degree? Seriously?

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